Question:
Why do Conservatives deny that Economy Improved under President Obama...?
Ksh
2015-01-20 14:26:45 UTC
They still think Economy was better under Bush lol...
95 answers:
Dogbreath
2015-01-20 14:36:32 UTC
It's easy enough to know why the economy is better now than under Bush. Bush had to contend with a Democratic congress coming in in 2006, which is when things took a turn for the worse. Obama on the other hand has now lost both houses of congress and it is no coincidence that at this juncture the economy is improving.
Anna
2015-01-21 16:51:02 UTC
-13 straight months of job losses



-Record job losses with more to come

The democrats were the majority of course they were destroying the economy in their own states. Let me clear up the B.S.

-$1.4 Trillion Deficit This is laughable! That was the Deficit before Clinton the letch. Clinton left a 5 trillion dollar deficit. President Bush left a 10 trillion dollar deficit and Obama has a 18 trillion dollar deficit and counting. GM and Chrysler should NEVER have been bailed out they are a business (there bad business decisions are their OWN fault. DOWNSIZE. In the Senate, 37 of 49 Democrats voted on May 24 to support the measure. In the House, while only 86 of the 231 Democratic House members voted for the supplemental funding, 216 of them voted in favor of an earlier procedural vote designed to move the funding bill forward even though it would make the funding bill’s passage inevitable (while giving most of them a chance to claim they voted against it). The housing bubble was the democrats fault too they lied and bush's congressional hearings. Obamas jobs record is good if you don't count half the people in this nation are on welfare. Pull those hip boots over your head your brain is dead.



-GM & Chrysler on the Brink of Extinction
?
2015-01-20 20:23:33 UTC
It has not improved.....it is going down the drain....no matter how many lies are told.....people have no jobs.....higher expenses and now the idiot Obama wants to raise taxes and some are yelling for tax on gasoline.....it is about to hit the fan when his policies all reach the High mark he set which will be when he is out of office so the next President can get the Blame like Clinton did Bush, he inherited Clinton's spin down....Looked great for 8 years the budget was balanced but then it all had to be paid back...and Bush got the brunt of the economy and than also Clinton's war with terrorists the ones Clinton used cruise missiles on in Afghanistan.

SO.....

Whoever gets in after Obama will have his mess to deal with, unless the Repub Congress can get it straight before hand which i doubt !!!
Socrates
2015-01-20 17:19:15 UTC
From the beginning of Bush's presidency to Q2 of 2007, it WAS better than this economy. "Improved" isn't enough. Do you hail a kid as a genius when he "improved" from getting D's to C's? This is what you are doing. American economic recoveries are supposed to start, sharply, soon after a recession is over, not 5.5 years later after a recession ended! This economy is growing but very sluggish. Like a person who takes a long time to recover from a cold, both they and the economy are weak health-wise and are susceptible to any new little "cold" that comes along. Much of this sluggishness can be attributed to the avalanche of regulatory-red tape and bureaucracy that has been spewing out of Washington from the beginning of the Obama Administration. Business owners have been scrambling for cover until it stops. They have not been willing (only until recently) to expand, creating jobs, in this business-hostile environment.
?
2015-01-22 18:40:21 UTC
You know I pride myself on being a Conservative and trying to get the story from both sides of the isle before passing judgement on anyone but I cannot say the same for some of the Liberals that I have come across on line now days. Being that I am from America where the record shows that our country prospers under a Republican President when their is one in the oval office rather than a Democratic President which the American people always suffer under when in office. Even history has show this readily know truth. President Obama since being in office has not accomplished much of anything if anything at all. He has taken more vacations than anyother President in American history. The only Bill that he has passed since being in office that I know of is the Affordable Healthcare Act ( Obamacare ). Which is not an healthcare bill at all. The Supreme Court said in its decision the Affordable Healthcare Act is nothing more than a Tax on everything. In essence it is a Tax Bill. This is what happens when you pass a Bill without even reading it first. And it was the Democrats who said " you have to pass it first in order to find out what is in it ", which had to be the most stupidest move ever! That is part of the reason why so many Democrats have lost their re-election bids in their home states and lost the Senate also. As far as the Economy improving under Obama, I have not seen it yet! Yeah, gas prices have gone down but we are still being taxed on everything else. We have the highest unemployment rating ever.
Philip H
2015-01-20 14:30:55 UTC
No denial of the fact that more people have less disposable income, must work two jobs, and the rich are thriving.

What else would you expect when the Democrats bailed out the Big Corporations and gave Bonuses to those who Caused the Great Recession? Then passed the bill off on the Middle Class to pay the interest on the Debt the Democrats added.

No wonder he wants to play to the middle class in this speech tonight. Obama and his Administration Caused the Problems!

Notice the Budget didn't go into the crapper until the Democrats took over the House (which creates the Budget) and the budget didn't start to become more sane again until the Republicans were elected to replace the Democrat majority in the House.
anonymous
2015-01-20 14:32:40 UTC
I find it rather offensive that Obama's drones want to take credit for my work. If Bush did that, it was offensive too but I also remember Bush leaving me with a bit more of my tax dollars so I am slightly less mad at him for that particular offense. Nevertheless, me going to work only to have Obama say he earned the money is offensive as it ought to be.



Economic cycles go up and down somewhat oblivious to who is president. In some cases a president can delay a cycle or alter its timing but in the big picture he probably did very little to ultimately cause it. Whenever one of you wants to take credit you never make an association that makes sense. Just you try to analogize coincidences.
The Duke
2015-01-22 08:14:05 UTC
I'll just give you a reason from my personal experience. Gas, until recently,was up around $3/gal where I live. Milk costs about $5/gal where I live. My phone, cable, water, power, health insurance, homeowners insurance, etc. have all gone up since Obama took office. What hasn't gone up in that time? My salary. I have an advanced degree, work full time, with a skill set that is necessary in my field yet my pay stays flat over past 5 years and my wife works full time too. That's not a good economy to me.



My family doesn't have a lot of debt and we don't spend freely yet we can barely afford to scrape by monthy sometimes. Christmas and vacations are hard to pay for. Then years like last year when my wife had some major medical bills, we get wiped out. How's that a good economy? If the economy were good, folks would be getting pay increases that keep in step with the higher cost of living that continues every year.



To look outside of my life. We still have high unemployment-the unemployment rate has never been accurate. We still owe TRILLIONS more than we have at any other time in our history. Yes, the market has improved and gas is lower (right now) and those things help, but I don't feel any more comfortable now than I did 6-10 years ago, in fact I feel less secure.



Will that change with a Republican president? I don't know. What I do know is that, as a middle class citizen, I'm squeezed of every dollar I make (or at least it seems) and it's bordeline impossible for me to save for my boys college let alone my retirement. I'll see a good economy when I can do those two things-even if simply doing those things are hard not impossible.



Duke
?
2015-01-20 14:38:15 UTC
The economy has improved during Obasmas administration however it is not because of Obama

He has done absolutely nothing to improve the economy

Presidents get too much credit when the economy improves and too much blame when the economy is bad
The Taxpayer
2015-01-20 14:59:50 UTC
Because conservatives look at facts. Houshold income has dropped in 8 years because of Obama's redistribution strategies. Food stamps have doubled. Less people in the workforce than there were 6 years ago. How's that for lol?
booboo
2015-01-23 19:14:08 UTC
The same way Obama is trying to take credit for oil prices droping, simply a matter of timing, nothing he's done has helped the economy, manufacturing is coming back because Chinese labor is getting more expensive, people are finally getting fed up with the crap they get from China that breaks almost as soon as you get it out of the package, and they're also realizing that China is not our friend and making them stronger is a really bad idea. Same with oil, iol is going down do to the significand increase in American energy production, pretty much all of which Obama has opposed not helped, and now he's strutting around like it's all his doing, nothing could be further from the truth, but of course the clueless dolts, aka you!!!, so conveniently seem to miss that in your spouting propaganda.
?
2015-01-22 05:31:17 UTC
It is simple enough to recognise why your economic climate is better now when compared with below Plant. Plant was required to deal with a new Democratic congress being released in with 2006, and that is when factors had taken a new switch for the worse. Obama conversely has now misplaced equally properties connected with congress and it's also not any coincidence that will at this juncture your economic climate is actually enhancing.
?
2015-01-20 14:28:19 UTC
Because conservatives understand that the fed propping up the stock market with artificially low interest rates does not an improved economy make.

That being said, I would like to see you compare and contrast numbers in years where GWB did not have a democratically controlled congress and did not have the likes of Barney Frank refusing to do his job and enforce banking regulations so that he could line his pocket
OnceLiberty
2015-01-21 19:33:46 UTC
Because Obama's improvement comes in the same way that my economic condition would be improved if you gave me your credit cards. Digging a hold and then filling it in are both activities that increase GDP; Obama's early years were great for the labor unions like that. The rich did extremely well with Obama, are you proud of his exceptional ties with the big businesses that elevated the Dow and S&P at the expense of small business?
anonymous
2015-01-20 14:48:36 UTC
The economy has improved in spite of Obama not because of him.

Democrats want to congratulate themselves for leading the slowest economic recovery in our history.

They want to take credit for lower gas prices after fighting every single attempt at new energy production.

If Democrats had there way there would be no cracking, and no cheap oil.

Even now Obama is single handed lay holding up the Keystone pipeline despite it meeting every legal hurdle liberals have tried to put in its way.
Walter
2015-01-20 20:58:43 UTC
"I want this president to fail". This president has faced the most hostile group of republicans that any president has ever had to contend with. And after reading some of the post's here, I can see that kind of stupidity that is uniquely American...people voting for and supporting people who wouldn't spit on them if they were ablaze. Where are those WMD's? When did we prevail? Who wasn't concerned about Bin Laden? Bush never had any democrat declare that they wanted him to fail. But when you're that inept...let him go...he did a fine job of failing...all by himself.
Elizabeth
2015-01-21 05:36:29 UTC
I give two craps about that Muslim bastard. You can like him all you want. The economy turned around because Americans have faith in themselves and not some *** wipe president who started wars everywhere including a race war in America. You can him and I offer you my deepest sympathy. AND, are we still blaming bush GET THE F**K OVER IT. My friend burned my coat 10 years ago, should I still blame her or should I blame myself for lending her the dang thing. Just askin'
anonymous
2015-01-20 14:40:11 UTC
I don't deny it, I just say it outright. The economy is much worse under Obama. The misery index is higher, food costs more, and the average family is $4,000 a year poorer. High paying or skilled jobs are scarce.
?
2015-01-22 12:15:14 UTC
Fact: The stock market is an organized prediction of certain economic organizations. Not the ECONOMY. If the economy is so great why is milk as expensive as it ever been? Why are gas prices still $3- $4 a gallon? Why are my taxes going up but my paycheck staying the same? Must be that great economy huh?
?
2015-01-21 15:03:10 UTC
Ask all the people who got laid off from casino jobs in Atlantic City if the economy improved. A 2 billion dollar brand new casino opens and closes and the guy who wants it wants it for several million. I doubt the economy improved in Ferguson either.
?
2015-01-20 14:36:03 UTC
Why not include the work force participation rate? It is the lowest in decades! How many people on disability? It is again at levels never seen in the past! So you cherry pick some, probably cooked, figures from the government and think that is ALL the facts? That is like NOT asking enough question at a job offer and only looking at the gross and not the net!
curtisports2
2015-01-20 14:32:28 UTC
It was. And Obama gets zero credit for an improving economy. It's getting better IN SPITE of him and his fellow leftists.
Patsfan
2015-01-20 14:28:29 UTC
Because it WAS better under Bush
anonymous
2015-01-20 14:33:27 UTC
Because the stock market has been propped up by the Fed. And most of the other numbers aren't real.



Take unemployment for instance. There are a huge number of people who are no longer counted. And the job growth numbers don't even keep up with the number of new people entering the workforce.
anonymous
2015-01-21 08:06:44 UTC
Maybe because they don't consider record numbers on socialist programs like food stamps, record numbers going off the grid, lowest labor participation rate since jimmy carter, record national debt, record numbers of ILLEGAL ALIENS invading America and being taken care of (having their backsides kissed) by taxpayers to be signs of an "improved economy".
parochial school graduate
2015-01-21 18:35:04 UTC
The jobs that replaced those lost in 2008 average $9000.00 a year less in pay. All people are doing less well except the one percent, The total debt has reached over 19 trillion, We still have no long term plan to change the scenario in the future, Car loans going to seven years, education debt out of control, The federal reserve balance sheet even though it is at insane levels no real recovery has come, The rest of the world is playing our same game to the extent that some sane voices are speaking out. Even the president of Honda says taking car loans to seven years just to make a sale is insane. The worker participation rate is lower than ever.



The whole recovery is just an illusion.
anonymous
2015-01-20 14:41:24 UTC
Republican President Bush crashed our Economy...



-Obama inherited the Worst Recession in 75 years



-13 straight months of job losses



-Record job losses with more to come



-High unemployment

-Dow jones down to 8000



-DJI plummeted 35%



-$1.4 Trillion Deficit



-GM & Chrysler on the Brink of Extinction



-Two Wars



-Osama Bin laden on the loose



all thanks to our former Republican President, Obama is doing a great job despite Republican Obstruction...
Iamicecreamman
2015-01-21 23:10:44 UTC
The Stock Market has improved because of Quantify Easing. In other words, the Federal Reserve is buying worthless stocks to artificially increase the market's value. This helps no one but the very wealthy, as no one who is not involved with wall street or the Federal Reserve knows which stocks the government is buying.



That is not the correct unemployment figure. 95% of people are not employed.... simple observation affirms this but if you want proof, I suggest you look up the correct unemployment figure in Forbes.com.



Most of the jobs created were retail jobs. So basically the economy is doing poorly, so more and more people are buying from McDonalds and Target, meaning they were able to open more stores and hire more employees.



The GDP has grown SLIGHTLY because of Quantify Easing. The Federal Reserve (appointed by Obama) in an effort to prevent the economy from collapsing, buys worthless stocks and mortgages to artificially increase the market's value. This is essentially taking government money and handing it to any who invests in stocks. The result is that these investors are able to then buy more goods and services, resulting in a slight increase in the overall GDP in the short term. As soon as the period of Quantify easing is over, any economic benefits vanish.



Sounds good right?



No.



The Federal Reserve has to print money to buy those stocks and mortgages. You can't just print money, or inflation will occur, so they have to raise the revenue by selling bonds to China. These bonds have to be repaid. Every year the Government spends your tax dollars, and mine, to do this. As our debt increases, so does the amount of money the government has to use to repay the debt's interest. Already some estimate that each American citizen will make 400,000 less dollars in their lives because of this. Soon the debt will be so great that we will no longer be able to pay the yearly interest fee's. We will default, and our economy will collapse because China will stop buying our bonds. China's economy will also collapse, and then Russia and a few countries in the middle east will be left as the strongest nations in the world. I trust you think that that is not an ideal situation.
anonymous
2015-01-21 22:29:17 UTC
More people have left the work force, part-time or temp are now counted as full time, & more people are on gov. handouts than ever before. There are still lots of for lease signs.



Guess the improvements lies in the financial sectors or investment while the physical improvements are mostly outside the U.S.
Annonymous
2015-01-21 20:23:45 UTC
Well let me tell you why, they are influenced by people like Stuart Varney on Fox business and a news contributor, who is very ANTI-Obama. The state of the union as part of the first question contains some valid arguments to support Obama. The fact is that the downturn in the economy that basically had its beginnings in 2007 under Bush hit the fan pretty bad at the end of his Presidency into the 1st year of the Obama administration. So Obama is going around as a young politician promising the world. Lowering the debt, promoting education, a bunch of Hope and Change. Then the brunt of what experts of economics already were aware of a downturn in the economy was occurring, the Bush administration knew this was happening, recall us receiving a check from the treasury for $1275 filing jointly up to $250,000, with instructions to go out and spend it!! A Republican giving us money and telling us to go out and spend it!!! That was because the Bush administration KNEW things were not looking good. Well by early 2009, it was a near financial crisis and at that time called the worst recession since WW2. So the thinking is that 2 years or 2011 we should be out of it. The reality of it we were in the midst of a "NEW" millennial DEPRESSION of Global proportions, not just in the U.S. So, a more reasonable timeline of economic recovery would be 2007+10 years=2017. From the GREAT BUSH DEPRESSION is what I refer to it since I can't stand Republicans. So economic recovery is on it's way and would be on course to what I called it. A DEPRESSION!!! Instead of soup lines we had safety nets and he did pump money that way, which he should have.



Let's behonest, the Democrats have their hand in this too. Frank/Dodd, had much to do with this, easy mortgage loans during the Clinton years to low and middle income families to buy houses with possible high risk involved. So this wasn't ALL Republican, however, 2 worthless wars that the Bush administration and Bush tax breaks escalated the nation debt big time. And Obama was forced to use what I call Rooseveltian techniques to spend us into a reasonable degree of economic recovery, and when you look at China today as well as Europe, you would have to agree that the U.S. did better than most.



So the original question above, is that YES they deny that the economy is recovering and that is what many of these people call Obama a 'socialist", a fascist, a Marxist, the economy is stabilized quite a bit, and I'm sure, in fact I know conservatives DENY IT. The problem remains that RECOVERY will never have the meaning most Americans want because we are in globalism, so the question of RECOVERY, has different meaning than it had in a recovery back in the 1950's, it's different. Conservatives do not want to hear that, but this is reality, and I don't care if you bring back Ronald Reagan from the freaking DEAD, globalism will be globalism. We must train the American worker to be the most technically trained that we can.
D.E.M.
2015-01-20 17:49:50 UTC
That is like giving him credit for the lower fuel costs, yet he has done nothing to lower the prices. I mean yes fuel costs less but it is due to private industry; just as the economy has improved but once again it is because of private industry and the people buying more American.
Andy F
2015-01-21 16:47:04 UTC
It's their job to deny that the economy has improved under the Democrats; their obvious motive has to be to make Democrats look bad.



Secondly, though, the Conservatives have some truth on their side in noting that the economic recovery isn't as great as Obama and the Democrats want to claim it is. For instance -- unemployment rates are artificially low, since 1 million Americans have dropped out of the work force. Also -- economic inequality in the US continues to widen, Also -- US wages continue to be low, although the bankers are doing well, corporate profit rates are up. Also -- millions of Americans do, in fact, continue to depend not on "food stamps," but on whatever replacement for food stamps is called, under welfare "reforms" that Bill Clinton and the Republicans passed in the late 1990s.



The real truth is that western Capitalism is facing slow growth or no growth -- not just in the US, but also in Japan and the Eurozone -- that is, in almost all of the richest, longest-established capitalist nations in the world.



Capitalism "Asian Style" is doing much better in India, China, and many of the other "tiger" economies of East Asia. But even in China, the government rescued the economy by means of a big stimulus program in 2009 that has resulted in capitalist-style overinvestment and "overcapacity" -- in glutted markets -- in such key industries as steel and real estate development.



Meanwhile, many of the other Asian "tiger" economies are heavy exporters of manufactured goods to -- well, Euro and American markets. Result: the Eurozone's risk of falling back into recession is threatening the export markets of many of these recently emerging capitalist economies.



Martin Wolf, a pro-market, pro-globalization, anti-socialist columnist for the Financial Times of London, a major business publication, concludes for these and other reasons that the world financial / banking system is still at risk of another 2008-style crisis. To head off the crisis, Wolf argues, the nations of the world need to radically reform the entire global financial system; also, Eurozone governments need to stimulate their economies through more "stimulus" spending on government social programs. Also, there somehow needs to be a "rebalancing" of the world economy so that China's growth doesn't depend on selling Americans things we really don't need to buy, and on lending money to us in the form of purchases of US savings bonds, so that we'll have the money to pay for that stuff.



In other words, Conservatives are CORRECT to say the economy under Obama isn't really that great. But they're in denial about what's causing the sluggish economic performance they hate. Part of it is capitalism itself, which gets into terrible slumps of this sort every 50 or 60 years or so. Part of it is the way our capitalist economy works today -- with too much poverty, too much inequality, too much focus on capitalist bankers making money by suckering poor and middle class consumers into taking out debts that we mostly can't repay.



The solution to the US slump -- IF there is one, under capitalism -- will require "radical" change. And conservatives just won't admit that, or can't.





-- democratic socialist
smsmith500
2015-01-21 14:49:57 UTC
We have more people on welfare and foodstamps than we have had since the 60s, The economy is not improving and the reason its not are the policies and ideas of the current administration. You can lie to yourself, but please don't lie to me and think I will blindly accept the lie as a fact.
Justin
2015-01-22 13:54:07 UTC
LOLOLOLOLOLOOL

The economy was better under Bush.

Bush left the office and the U.S. was $4 trillion dollars in debt

Now, Obama is not even FINISHED with his presidency, and were approx. $30 trillion dollars in debt. Obama hates war, thats why ISIS had a chance to form, because HE PULLED ALL THE GOD DMAN TROOPS OUT OF IRAQ WITHOUT A SOFA (STATUS OF FORCES AGREEMENT) AND THAT LET ALL THE PROGRESS WE MADE BE REVERSED. OBAMA SUCKS. OOOHHH POOR BLACKS POOORRRR POOOORRRR BLACKS THEY CANT DO ANYTHING SO THEY MUST BE STUPID POOOORRRR BLACCCKKKKKKSSSSSSS PITY THEM... TELL THEM TO GET UP AND WORK THEMSELVESS
Special EPhex
2015-01-21 17:22:50 UTC
Those numbers are very skewed. Yes there are marginal improvements in the economy, none of them has anything to do with the policies of the President or his administration. I find it ironic that those statistical categories are for the most part controlled by the 1%, the very people the President open claims to be the problem. The rich have certainly gotten richer under Obama, and the middle class, which is the measure of the condition of the economy, has not seen or felt the improving economy in an impactful way. Wages are still down by about $3000 for households with dual income, since the President took office. And the unemployment numbers, conveniently, do not include the amount of people who have given up looking for work, which would make the unemployment numbers much higher.
?
2015-01-20 14:28:13 UTC
It has been worse for the entire Obama presidency than it was for almost all of Bush's presidency.



Obama is a failed president. Total loser. You know it. The world knows it.
?
2015-01-20 14:30:24 UTC
I will tell you what...it was a lot better for me before this current administration, people had money to spend and a more optimistic perspective...that has not returned.



The rich are doing better under this administration...but not the middle class and poor.
Virgil
2015-01-22 11:04:53 UTC
When private companies found and developed oil it created many jobs, lowered the price at the pump and that got things out of the mud and running again. It was just to predictable that Obama would take credit for this and is resisting the pipeline construction at the same instance.
Bubba Ray
2015-01-20 14:29:32 UTC
It is impossible for conservatives to give President Obama credit for his economic successes due to the President's race. Remember, the Republican Party has congressmen who spoke to racist organizations on committee seats.
anonymous
2015-01-22 12:48:20 UTC
I'll start with this, the president has very little to do with the stock market unless he cracks down on banking, and loans and fraud, which he hasn't, so those numbers have been made by the public market. Once again, the president has not created jobs himself, that has been done, by the private sector, even though the smart thing to do was to raise the minimum wage, and create government labor jobs.
David
2015-01-21 14:45:01 UTC
Because if they acknowledged the economy improved under Obama they would not have a case to argue.
?
2015-01-20 20:27:22 UTC
The economy has been in the ditch ever since the Democrats took over congress in 2007.
IceT
2015-01-20 14:28:09 UTC
The economy is better but not any were as good for the middle class as it was under Bush.



The 5% GDP is a lie that they got by using a booking trick that a business would get in major trouble if they used it! What they did is held several months of BFD O'Bamacare payments and then added them all in one month and then called them part of the GDP!



The unemployment while correct is not the same as the 5% unemployment we had under Bush because the labor participation rate is at its lowest in 30 years! Which means if the labor participation rate were the same as it was under Bush we would be at 8% unemployment.



http://money.cnn.com/2013/09/06/news/economy/labor-force-participation/index.html



The deficit % of GDP is down but not because of anything O'Bama or Democrats have done. It is down because of the sequester and other measures taken by the Republican controlled House.



Democrats went 3 years without even passing a budget!



http://www.politifact.com/ohio/statements/2012/apr/26/john-boehner/john-boehner-says-senate-dems-havent-passed-budget/



NONE of O'Bama's budgets has gotten even one vote! Not even one Democrat vote!
Unseen
2015-01-21 19:29:37 UTC
I'm not seeing it or feeling it. The only relief I'm getting is the price of gas. And the government is already talking about raising the tax on it. All this talk about raising taxes on the rich only hurts the poor and middle class because the cost of raising the riches taxes is passed on to them.
?
2015-01-24 06:46:41 UTC
Don't you mean that despite Obama the economy improved?
Sacra Veritas
2015-01-21 20:02:45 UTC
You are right, the 1% have just flourished under Obama, while jobs lost have been replaced by part-time jobs.
Joe
2015-01-23 09:27:58 UTC
Is that why there are 15 million more people on food stamps since he took office?

Is that why the national deficit has doubled since he took office?

Is that why the median middle class income has decreased by over $3000/yr since he took office?
vulcan_alex
2015-01-21 16:08:51 UTC
Sure it "improved" but for some time under the Bush administration it was much better than today, and today it is still poor after the "improvement".
Ann Kunis
2015-01-23 07:37:15 UTC
Because it actually hasn't. I can personally take you to many businesses & places where the economy didn't grow under Obama.
?
2015-01-23 04:31:55 UTC
Conservatives don't like to see others being right. That's why.
anonymous
2015-01-21 20:24:06 UTC
Numbers the oldest game in the political arena. Spin spin spin. Where it stops

no body knows. Obama is 90 percent spin and lots of smoke and phony mirrors,
Texas Mike
2015-01-20 14:31:25 UTC
90 million still unemployed ...



Average annual unemployment rate for George W. Bush



Year..............Average

2001.............. 4.8

2002.............. 5.8

2003.............. 6.0

2004.............. 5.5

2005.............. 5.1

2006.............. 4.6

2007.............. 4.6 Democrats take Congress 100% and economy starts to tank.

2008.............. 5.8



Now Obama ...



2009...............9.5 January 7.8% inauguration [up 30% [ to10%] by November]

2010...............9.6 Democrats lose house.

2011...............9.0 Republicans take House and economy starts to stabilize.

2012...............8.1

2013...............7.9 January 7.8% inauguration [7.9% by month's end]

2014...............6.7 [Now 5.8] Seriously? much of the decline was due to an exodus of about 347,000 unemployed people who stopped looking for work.
pbearow
2015-01-20 18:16:37 UTC
Bush had the unemployment rate down to 5.3. I have saw this in three different newspapers, Obama has not got there, yet....
credo quia est absurdum
2015-01-24 09:39:50 UTC
Gasoline prices have tripled under obama. Milk prices have doubled under obama. Taxes have been increased and created under obama.
?
2015-01-21 18:15:41 UTC
Hard to have an honest debate when you will not allow pertainate factors to even be considered. You believe what you what. Facts be damned. I expect nothing more from you.
anonymous
2015-01-20 14:31:35 UTC
Facts don't matter to Conservatives...
?
2015-01-21 13:08:21 UTC
They are not usually realists. The are idealists. Some conservatives would even deny that was even based from real facts.
?
2015-01-20 15:03:24 UTC
Newsflash, the President doesn't control the economy.
?
2015-01-20 17:05:37 UTC
because unlike you retarded Leftists, I look at facts! their are fewer Americans working today as a percentage than at ANY time in our history save for the Great Depression! now try to spin THAT!
?
2015-01-21 15:48:02 UTC
I would LOVE to know a source for those nonsense numbers.
Jimbo
2015-01-21 14:41:08 UTC
I don't know where you got your little poster but it's all a lie. Not a damned one of the figures are on the Labor Department's web site but that aside, the reason we deny it is because we're the ones who got off our butts and worked longer hours, took pay cuts, struggled every day to get by, and PAID THE TAXES so you could sit on your lazy azz and lie.
VARDAS
2015-01-21 12:33:35 UTC
it has increased but not because of obama himself
Deb
2015-01-21 10:41:13 UTC
It's basically because the hate the black guy in the Presidency instead of one of their white old farts. It's because they are being filled with all the lies that the Republicans are hearing from their mega Donors, the Koch Brothers who were raised by a sympathizer of Adolph Hitler and his family even worked for them. They want to go back to the early 1900's and put everybody but themselves in the poor house. They don't care about the people in the U.S. except for the people that are lying to, they don't care about their own constituents because they are already trying to change everything to suit their slave owners.
ian t
2015-01-21 10:09:36 UTC
All the improvements are cheating from low interest rates or rigging the numbers. We're in one of the biggest across the board bubbles in the history of economy.
robertrichmond123
2015-01-21 09:01:29 UTC
ahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
Walt
2015-01-21 00:04:57 UTC
Senator Mitch McConnell said, "My primary duty is to see that Obama is a one-term president." That leaves very little room for charity or compromise. Dennis Hastaert suggested a rule for the House: Do not put a bill before the House, unless there are enough votes to pass it. That became the practice, with a threshhold of 207 yeas needed in causus, before the floor vote. Remember, the minority Democrats are not allowed to introduce legislation, only to vote on the bill, once the majority introduces it. You get very few laws passed under this strategy and attitude. Examine any event in governance during the last six years and you will see that there is a constant push to deny the President anything that even resembles a victory. All of you military vets appreciate the Status Of Forces Agreement, (SOFA), which sets out the relationship of the U.S. and any host nation, with regard to the posting of soldiers and armaments on the soil of a soverign nation. The provision for diplomatic staffs and their guards is distinct for each level of our State Department staff. Embassies are guarded by U.S. Marines. Consulates are guarded by local indigenous soldiers of the host nation. Diplomatic Missions are guarded by civilian security contractors or host nation military and varies by location in country and status of hostilities. At Benghazi's Mission, the security force fled at the start of hostilities. I cannot get the conservative take on how Mr. Obama caused that failure of the Status of Forces Agreement.

I wrote earlier that the T.A.R.P. bailout of Wall Street was blamed on Obama, as a financial failure. The fact that T.A.R.P. began in September of 2008, after the failure of Lehman Brothers Investment Bank, yet Obama was not even elected to the Presidency until November of 2008, and taking his oath of office in January of 2009. Conservatives from the southern tier of states are still holding on to the biases of the last century; they want the record to be so bad that no African-American will ever be voted into the White House again. Nothing that even resembles a victory is to be allowed! If the facts support the President, then the facts must be changed! Every writer to this page can find an example where a good outcome became a failure, whether it was keeping our soldiers out of Libya or out of Syria, or Yemen, or Nigeria, or any of the other hotspots... not fighting became the failure, per Sen's. McCain and Graham.

Let me add the historical look-back: Our slaves were to be hanged if they were taught to read. The most available book was the 1611 version of the Bible. In the book of Deuteronomy it is frevealed that the slaves were to be set free in the seventh year of their captivity. Consider what that knowledge would do to the southern economy if all slaves knew that the southerners were fond of claiming strict adherence to scripture, while defying God's laws. Teaching a slave was also punishable, and for the same reason.

Barak is not the descendant of slaves, though Michelle is, but in the eyes of hard-shell conservatives, they are both fatally flawed and unfit for the positions they occupy. They judge by skin color, so I am glad that they cannot see me as I write this.
S.S. KITTY
2015-01-20 22:01:34 UTC
Why did the economy have to Improve, if the porch monkey was doing a great job all this time ???
GEORGE B
2015-01-20 21:58:37 UTC
The numbers and percentages in the chart you provided are totally, absolutely, useless and meaningless because they do not also include the amount of monetary inflation that has simultaneously occurred during the referenced time periods. BTW, charts like that one are provided by the political machines precisely because they know most people will never think about or understand the effect that government caused inflation has on the public. They count on you believing the pretty charts they provide while not understanding the data is useless.
Jeft
2015-01-20 20:55:41 UTC
Labor PARTICIPATION is down.
Arthur
2015-01-20 20:34:31 UTC
Let's see--more people than EVER on food stamps and welfare and unemployment. Most people have given up even looking for jobs and those that are available are minimum wage/service type jobs with no future or benefits. You call that an improvement? Over what? Slavery? Add higher taxes, food costs, rents, a depressed housing market, millions of jobs moving overseas, a tide of illegals coming in at the Dems bidding, middle class tax breaks taken away to pay for Obamacare....WHAT IMPROVEMENTS???
?
2015-01-21 14:10:58 UTC
That chart has nothing to do with 0bama's policies, they operate despite government policies, when you have some real figures worth posting we'll recognize them. In the meantime get your homework done.
?
2015-01-22 18:35:58 UTC
Lies and misrepresentations can even make a sows ear look like a silk purse to the properly selected group of a gullible few...welcome to that select group !
anonymous
2015-01-20 23:52:09 UTC
Hell ya! Why don't you liberals just say Obama helped lower the gas too!!
Jake
2015-01-20 15:32:44 UTC
Did you make that chart in Microsoft Paint? That explains everything.
Ross
2015-01-21 06:16:33 UTC
because it has not improved except in obama's imagination
?
2015-01-22 06:47:13 UTC
They also wear dark glasses and carry a white stick
anonymous
2015-01-20 18:24:29 UTC
Because we don't get our news from Memes! Then, please answer this, Why have there been more Americans on Goverment assistance than EVER before Sherlock?
anonymous
2015-01-20 14:29:17 UTC
They only watch Fox News. They have no way of getting the truth.
Warren T
2015-01-22 05:02:41 UTC
MAYBE BECAUSE IT DIDN'T IMPROVE NEAR AS MUCH AS IT DID UNDER REAGAN
anonymous
2015-01-21 09:18:49 UTC
Republicans are BETA and believe everything FUAX news tells them to.
anonymous
2015-01-20 14:32:03 UTC
who's economy?
Judi
2015-01-21 11:49:27 UTC
It simply doesn't fit in their paradigm.
?
2015-01-20 17:01:49 UTC
Most "people" that don't like a black man can do better than most "people" Remember-Think
anonymous
2015-01-23 10:13:04 UTC
Nice try !!! government is forcing the dow up . Most jobs created are part time !! do I need to go on ?
anonymous
2015-01-20 14:32:09 UTC
Because CONS are dense and total A*S*S*HOLES! I can't think of how to elaborate much more on this. They are indeed dense and narrow minded & CONS are total A*S*SHOLES.
anonymous
2015-01-20 14:43:54 UTC
Copy and paste liberal tools. What would the left do without their parrot brigades?
Billy Butthead
2015-01-22 08:04:26 UTC
18 trillion!
Vulcan
2015-01-21 08:45:02 UTC
Because they think that there plan was better.
?
2015-01-20 14:48:43 UTC
they are uninformed and more importantly it doesn't fit their rhetoric
Lydia
2015-01-21 06:16:42 UTC
because it hasn't
SMOKEY
2015-01-21 08:26:24 UTC
cause it Didn't.
Miles from Michigan!!
2015-01-20 14:48:48 UTC
nice little piece of propaganda!!!
anonymous
2015-01-23 14:36:34 UTC
i would suck his cawk dry if i met him
meredith
2015-01-20 17:27:33 UTC
Fear.
anonymous
2015-01-21 17:13:35 UTC
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