Is it OK to convince people that getting a university/college education is pointless because of debt and high costs?

Question

Is it OK to convince people that getting a university/college education is pointless because of debt and high costs?

Answer 1

It's pointless if you are pursuing a degree that it not marketable, and will not provide the economic benefits to pay for the cost of education.

STEM subjects still are worth the effort and the cost if you set your mind to it.

I tried a pay as you go, and when the money went, I did not go. I turned to the trades, and entrepreneurial pursuits and did just fine, more than fine in fact. And with no debt.

Answer 2

A college education, now, in the U.S. is pointless unless you want to be a brainwashed communist. Most of the professors at the college level now are such rabid liberals that it is one step away from communism.. Would not send my kid to any of these universities now days!

Answer 3

There are other methods these days of getting a degree in higher education. Most companies want to hire people with degrees, and you can do a lot of online education which is Much Cheaper than your brick and mortar universities.

Answer 4

no

Answer 5

You are entitled to your opinion even when its wrong

Answer 6

There was a time when colleges and universities were institutions of higher learning.

Today, colleges and universities are little more than institutions of higher debt.

Answer 7

It's certainly OK to make sure students realize what kind of debt they are getting in to.

Answer 8

As long as you don't mind sleeping alone - - go for it

Answer 9

So the question is whether or not it is acceptable to point out that many college degree programs are not worth the initial cost to get them...



That's an objective fact. It would be unethical to NOT point it out.



I have no problem with college, but you should go to acquire a specific education or skills that you could not get otherwise... With an emphasis on minimizing cost. You should not be going to college just because everyone is going to college or just because college graduates earn more money on average... Especially if you're borrowing money and studying something with no clear career path.

Answer 10

No, because the reality is there are no jobs available at all without it

Answer 11

If you manage to convince them then they probably didn't want to go in the first place.

Answer 12

Sure, especially if you start with those seeking to take snowflake courses.

Answer 13

Where I live, people would burst out laughing if they ever heard you say something that stupid.

Since education's the only cure for ignorance, remedy yours:



'Higher education does lead to higher incomes'

'Canada Ranked #1 Best Country for Education'

'Canada leads the world in highly-educated adults'

'Canada ranks highest for number of college degrees'

'How Canada became an education superpower - BBC News'

'Richer, smarter, taller: A measure of Canada from the OECD'

'10 Smartest Countries in the World and Canada Takes Top Spot'

'More Canadians have post-secondary education than other OECD nations'

'Learning from Success: What Americans Can Learn from School Choice in Canada'



'Canada is rich in real wealth'

'Canadians are wealthier than ever before'

'Canadians get rich at a faster pace than Americans'

'Why Is Canada Rich While Other Countries Are So Poor?'

'Canada's Economic Mobility Creates a Land of Opportunity'

'Canada's middle class better off than U.S. counterparts: study'

'Life in Canada, Home of the World's Most Affluent Middle Class'

'Canada Has World's Fastest-Growing Population Of Super-Rich'

'Canada is officially home to the richest middle class on the planet'

'Canadian families are getting wealthier, Statistics Canada study says'

'Canadians Richer, Healthier, & More Socially Mobile Than Americans'

'Richest. Seniors. Ever. How the luckiest generation keeps making money'

'Canada: Richer than America and more economically powerful than Europe'

'Millionaire Cities' Abound In Canada As Household Wealth Hits Record High'

'Are 30-somethings earning more than their parents? StatsCan study says yes'

'The most prosperous nation in the Americas, Canada ranks first in personal freedom'

'Canadians quadrupled the amount of money they transferred into tax havens last year'

'Canada First Country to Permanently Recognize November 15th as National Philanthropy Day'

'Research shows America's middle class no longer the world's richest and its the Canadians that have taken over'

'Canadians the wealthiest they’ve ever been, with average household net worth rising by 12 per cent over previous year to $770,635'



"wealthier kids have better access to college guidance, test preparation, financial literacy skills, and debt-free or low-debt educations."

Link - http://inequality.org/american-dream-moved-canada/



'Meet the next generation of wealth'

'Report: Canadians getting wealthier younger'

'Millennials are better off in Canada than in the U.S.'

'Millennials say Canada is the best country in the world'

'How Millennials are redefining Canada's luxury home market'

'Canadian millennials better off than U.S. counterparts: study'

'Rich Kids of Canada flaunt their fleets of super-cars, bling gold'

'Current generation of young Canadians wealthiest ever: federal study'

'Canadian millennials buying houses at younger age than their parents'

'Canadian Millennials Have Highest Average Net Worth In Canadian History'

'Canadian Millennials are doing better than their US peers in wealth and jobs'

'Young Canadians outspending European, U.S. counterparts on luxury goods'

'A report from TD Economics finds more than half of Canadian millennials own homes'

'Canadian Millennials consider themselves world explorers – As long as they travel in luxury'

'Canadian Millennials Work The Least Amount Of Hours A Week Than the Rest Of the World'

'Canada's future foreign policymakers 2017: Meet the millennials making a mark in international affairs'

'Canadian millennials are wealthier, better educated, and more financially ready for the future than the generation that came before'



Now compare all that with nightmare nations whose clueless citizens doomed themselves by not getting a full education:



'America's Embrace of Ignorance'

'Civic Ignorance Threatens American Liberty'

'US adults are dumber than the average human'

'The Scary State of Financial Literacy in America'

'Why Are Americans So Stupid -- And Proud of It?'

'You will be shocked at how ignorant Americans are'

'Anti-intellectualism Is Killing America | Psychology Today'

'America dumbs down: a rising tide of anti-intellectual thinking'

'New Poll Shows Young Americans Are Embarrassingly Ignorant'

'How Much Don't You Know? The Epidemic of American Ignorance'

'Financial Literacy: Two-Thirds of Americans Can't Pass Basic Test'

'Americans Are Both Ignorant and Easily Fooled | Watching America'

'Survey Shows American People Are Super Gullible and Believe Silly Things'

'Americans Struggle With Financial Problems They Don’t Understand: Study'

'Anti-Intellectualism And Willful Ignorance In America: The Root Of All That Is Evil'

'U.S. Foreign Policy Can be Only as Good as Public's Understanding of World Affairs'

'Compared to Rest of World Americans Are Delusional, Prudish, Selfish Religious Nuts: Study'

'Blame the childish, ignorant American public—not politicians—for our political and economic crisis'

'The cult of ignorance in the United States: Anti-intellectualism and the "dumbing down" of America'



"In 2003, a US Strategic Task Force of Education Abroad report concluded that America’s ignorance of the outside world was so great as to constitute a threat to national security."

Link - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnew...



'​The surging ranks of America's ultrapoor'

'How America Became a Third World Country'

'USA: The World's Newest Third World Nation'

'America: Land of the Whipped and Whimpering'

'US has become 'third world country': Donald Trump'

'Hunger a growing problem in America, USDA reports'

'America Changing for the Worse: Is It Time to Move Out?'

'America, you're now Canada's Mexico - The Boston Globe'

'Nearly 7 in 10 Americans have less than $1,000 in savings'

'Education as a pathway to Canadian permanent residence'

'1 In 2 Working Americans Make Less Than $30,000 A Year'

'Americans Far Less Healthy, Die Younger Than Global Peers'

'Stanford Economist: Move to Canada to Find American Dream'

'More Americans than Mexicans claimed refugee status in Canada'

'More US citizens — yes, citizens — are seeking refuge in Canada'

'What Middle Class? Most Americans Make Less Than 30K A Year'

'US has regressed to developing nation status, MIT economist warns'

'Head North: Record Number of Americans Illegally Fleeing to Canada'

'Americans are the latest economic refugees, and they're heading to Canada'

'63% Of Americans Don't Have Enough Savings To Cover A $500 Emergency'

'Americans enjoy less economic mobility than their peers in Canada, Europe'

'The American Dream is now twice as easy to achieve in Canada than in the US'

'1 out of 3 American households can no longer afford rent, food, and transportation'

'Young People Are Poorer, Jobless, and Believe That the American Dream Is Dead'

'Credit Suisse Wealth Report: There Are More Poor People In America Than China'



'Millennials Are the Poorest Generation, Study Says'

'American millennials don't have the skills that pay the bills'

'Companies exploit millennials, pushing them toward poverty'

'Census: Millennials Struggling With Poverty, Unemployment'

'Millennials Make Less Money Than Their Parents at Their Age'

'Surprise: A Majority of Millennials Don't Have a College Degree'

'Most Millennials Are Finding It Hard to Transition Into Adulthood'

'Poverty Prevention for Millennials: Education, Employment, Saving'

'Why marketing to millennials is different in Canada than in the U.S.'

'More Millennials Living At Home Reflects How America Has Changed'

'US millennials far below average in literacy, numeracy, problem-solving'

'American Millennials Rank at the Bottom of Almost Every Vital Workplace Skill'

'Young, Poor, and Desperate - The poverty crisis is devastating young Americans'

'Most Millennials Have Less Than $1,000 In Savings, Live Paycheck-to-Paycheck'

'Young People Are Poorer, Jobless, and Believe That the American Dream Is Dead'

'American Dream of Home Ownership a Costly Nightmare for Struggling Millennials'

'Report Finds American Millennials Ill-Equipped for Global Workforce Competitiveness'

'Generation Dropout: Millennials Joining the Workforce Are Less Educated Than Retiring Boomers'

'Millennials and Boomers feel like they’re living in two different Americas—and that’s a big problem'

'American Millennials Not Terribly Bright When It Comes to Pretty Much Everything That Matters, Analysis Finds'



It's like one of their founders once said:



"If the children are untaught, their ignorance and vices will in future life cost us much dearer in their consequences than it would have done in their correction by a good education."

- Thomas Jefferson



Still think it's okay to tell people to ruin their lives by not getting fully, properly educated; or have you smartened the hell up yet?

Answer 14

It's not pointless because it challenges your mind and makes you more intelligent. However, it's becoming beyond the reach of most middle class people because of the high costs and the student debt crisis caused by the lack of jobs to pay off the debt.

Answer 15

You can try, but they'll point to the millions of people who have degrees and high incomes due to them.

Answer 16

Good luck with that...just because you screwed up does not mean that everyone else will.

Answer 17

If you'd rather be a trucker, yes.



Sounds kind of fun since you get to meet little girls all over the country.

Answer 18

yes