How does the budget Bush vetoed not support the troops?

Question

There's actually more money for the military than Bush requested.

Answer 1

LOL, Commnander in Chief...have you ever heard of a pesky little thing called the "checks and balances"? The Congress is fully within their rights and are morally sound as the majority of Americans wanted this bill passed. Bush is acting more and more like a dictator every day, it's disgusting and unpatriotic.



"If we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy."

-Karen Hughes, speaking on behalf of presidential candidate George W. Bush



"Victory means exit strategy, and it's important for the President to explain to us what the exit strategy is."

-Governor George W. Bush (R-TX)

Answer 2

Let's put this into words that even the liberals can understand,



Say you go to a loan company and ask for a loan because

you want to take a 1 year vacation and travel the world.



The loan company prepares a contract and says here is

your loan, we will give you the money but you have to be

back in 3 months and we are also going to lend you

additional money, but you can not use that on your vacation

we want to use it for our vacation.



Would you sign that contract or would you say NO-WAY

that is not what I want



The democrats put enough PORK in to the budget knowing

that it would be vetoed because of the time lines but now

they have an excuse to blame the republicans for not

providing solutions to the promises that they made.



Time lines do NOT, support our troops and for that matter

neither does the current rules of engagement, our troops

need to fight without time lines and with out restrictions on

when they can return fire or what they are firing at (such as

into a Mosque)



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Answer 3

to say bush is defying the american people is totaly bull!! when we went into this war top dems were all for the war, including hillary. There are various videos of news interviews with dems that show them saying we need to go to iraq to get their wepons of mass distruction! Dont blame all this on bush when dems are at fault too but of course they wont take any blame. Now onto the question, Bush is vetoing the bill because it shows the enemy a timeline of when we will leave iraq. That is the dumbest mistake that a country could do is tell an enemy when we will leave. It will be just like the autrocities in vietnam, after we leave the terrorists will come out and kill on levels never before seen because they will know that all the troops are gone. That is why he veto's the bill.

Answer 4

Because it put a time line on the withdrawal of the troops. And just for the record there were BILLIONS of dollars of pork in there that has nothing to do with the troops. Democrats wanted Bush to veto the bill. That's why they put the time line in.



They want to be able to say "we tried to get the troops out, but Bush wouldn't let us". Putting a time line in is worse then stupid. It's dumb! AND it puts our troops at more risk.



If they Democrats really want to force the withdrawal of troops they would simply not send any bill to the President for additional funding. Instead they would send a bill to him requiring troops to begin immediate withdrawal.



But you won't see that happening. Because Democrats won't take a stand on ANY position concerning the war they could be held accountable for later.

Answer 5

First of all, there isn't more money for the troops, there is more money for other projects for the Democrats that have nothing to do with the war.



Second, the bill lets the insurgents/terrorists/militia know exactly when they can step up attacks against us. That's going to KILL more troops that necessary.



I have no problem with the spending in the bill. It's a trick that both sides have used throughout history. I have a problem with telling the enemy when we're leaving and letting them know that they win.



If the Democrats care so much about the troops, why not come up with a solution that creates an opportunity for victory instead of defeat?

Answer 6

If the Dems would put a single issue bill on military spending on the table instead of their entire BS agenda, our soldiers would right now be getting funds to help win this thing. Why don't the Dems just stop funding altogether and wave a white flag so they can be the chicken sh*ts we all know they are?

Answer 7

Not that you'd know ANYTHING about it but it was vetoed because he said he would veto anything that had a time table in it. The goddamn democrats chose to ignore it so he did as he said beside that, it put the time table on the troops employment thus basically putting them out of work, work they signed up to do.



Why is it that the democrats love to put people on welfare and keep them there?

Answer 8

He didn't veto the increased funds, he vetoed the withdrawal timeline. The whole bill was just a big piece of **** wrapped up in a pretty package with a little gold bow.

Answer 9

Just replace the words, "Miltary-Industrial Complex", with the word, "troops", wherever it is located and you'll begin to understand why the "timeline" portion of the bill is what's being opposed. A lot of money forever is much preferred over a whole bunch more money for just a couple more years.



The Democrats are being cowards for not forcing the Republicans to bring up a bill they 'all' can pass - let them figure it out - it's their war, isn't it?!

Answer 10

There is also more money in it for local pork projects, and the minimum wage bill. Congress knew this would be vetoed, but they put the minimum wage bill in anyway. The dems in congress don't want the minimum wage more than the republicans, so they threw it into this bill knowing it would be vetoed and when people ask "what happened to the minimum wage increase?" Nancy Pelosi can say, "We tried, but Bush vetoed it, *shrug* sorry."

Answer 11

The only reason he vetoed it is because of the timeline. That timeline means an end to his buddies making billions off the war plain and simple. Also the timeline is just too soon since they haven't secured the Oil rights like they intended to in the first place. Also, he has given more of the budgeted money to private security and private no bid contract companies than he has to the military in the first place. When they don't explain how the money is spent, we all just assume it goes to the soldiers. They call it the "war effort".. blind way of saying screw you soldiers ,Halliburton needs more! Blackwater, whatever your beef is.

Answer 12

It sets too many conditions, conditions which can't be met. Congress does not command the Military and they are trying to usurp powers that they are not entitled to have. On top of that, the Dems packed that bill so full of pork it's ludicrous.

Answer 13

Telling only half the story is no way to approach this. We all know that the major dispute is the timelines that Dems want to impose for withdrawal. That alone is reason enough to veto it. The war will never be effective with time lines imposed. The Dems need to leave it to the military to fight the war rather than trying to legislate away the war.

Answer 14

That's right.



The budget supports the troops in three ways:



a) it provides the funds they need for their current situation;

b) it provides funding for an orderly reduction and withdrawal; and

c) it supports them in that it gives them the opportunity to live their lives by bringing them back home where they belong!

Answer 15

GOOD POINT, BUT THERE GOES THE DAMN BUSH SUPPORTERS BLAMING THIS ON DEMOCRATS TOO. SO BUSH SUPPORTERS DOES BUSH OR ANYONE ON HIS ADMINISTRATION HOLD ANY RESPONSIBILITY FOR ANYTHING THAT WENT WRONG IN THIS POINTLESS WAR? LET ME GUESS NOWAY I MEAN ONLY THE DEMOCRATS WANTED THIS WAR RIGHT AND HAD NO PLAN GOING IN RIGHT. WHATEVER , IT MUST BE NICE TO LIVE IN YOUR LITTLE WORLD.

Answer 16

The dead line.

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The best kept dirty little secrets of the past dirty original keeper of our creator's universal gifts of life that was lost with time being expose in the new milleniun in planet of apes.

Luke 10.24

Ever wonder how do we epect to clear the mess at a short notice when we don't even know what really went wrong after the war was over in planet of apes.

Ever wonder the mystery was only expose after the mystery of us-911 in planet of apes.

When living human kind do not even know with "Where do I begin" to solve the mess out there in planet of apes.

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If we follow the instruction manual should be home by X'mas in planet of apes.

With time not on our side.

Which X'mas do we want to come home to our creator in worshiping God in planet of apes?

Leviticus 26. 41

Answer 17

It supports the troops, but it doesn't support the war....the conservatives are just turning it around to sound like the Dem's are evil unpatriotic Americans who want terrorists to run out country....it's getting ridiculous.

Answer 18

the Dems knew he would veto it due to the "timeline" yet they still attached their main promise to it (minimum wage increase)

Answer 19

Exactly.



But you cannot sway them with facts. Sensationalist headlines are much more entertaining.

Answer 20

Look, the President is Commander in Chief.



Not Congress.



Congress doesn't get to set the military policy or issue orders. Therefore, Congress demanding troop pullout at a given time is unconstituional.

Answer 21

Exactly. Bush is playing politics and defying the will of the American people. Its disgusting. Its characteristically Repuiblican. Its wrong. Enough said.

Answer 22

Because the troops hate us for our freedom.