Is the US's 4.2 murder rate really that different than Europe's 3.5?

Question

You hear how safe Europe is but it really isn't that different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

Some countries in Europe are less...Some are more. Same is true of regions withing the US. Minnesota for example is 1.4. You are 67 times more likely to be murdered in New Orleans.

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/murder-rates-nationally-and-state

Take into account the varying demographics and locations you can easily be as safe in some parts of the US as even western Europe. My town, in the south, actually has a violent crime rate much lower than even western Europe and its murder rate is virtually non-existent.

Sure, crimes happen in good places too. Just ask the Norwegians.
So, in short, you can't compare a country to a continent or even continents to continents or countries to countries.

A US tourist was killed last year in Hamburg, Germany.
http://www.alalamiatv.com/news/?p=747

Glasgow, Scotland is said to have more violent crime than NYC.
http://www.businessinsider.com/europe-dangerous-cities-2011-9?op=1

21 percent of people in Naples Italy say they never feel safe.

Frankfurt Germany ranks 10th on this Europe crime list.
http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/most-dangerous-cities-europe.asp

On the flip side, I was in Copenhagen, Denmark and people would just leave their bikes unlocked.

In one German town I recently visited, I commented to a friend that every bike I saw was old and ratty. She said if you have a nice bike it WILL be stolen.

Here's a list of Europe's worst cities.
http://www.businessinsider.com/europe-dangerous-cities-2011-9?op=1

Answer 1

its different since you take as example USA and europe who comprends Russia...



anyway if you take EU countries the rate is pretty much different



italy 0,9

spain 0,8

france 1,1

germany 0,8

netherland 1,1



...even turkey have a 3,3



... and USA 4,2

Answer 2

This is a joke, right?



These are just stats. Believe me, Germany, France, Spain or Italy are MUCH safer overall than the US. And shootings?... It is almost unheard of. They have tight laws about guns. It is hard to get a firearm. I know Germany very well by the way, because my father was a diplomat there, so I stayed there a lot. Germany crime?.. Hardly. I can walk at 3 AM and nothing will happen. Again, I lived in Berlin.



Europe is much safer than the USA, I think it is a no brainer. Yes, there is crime as well. Crime happens everywhere, but it is half the rate as you can see. And gun violence is unheard of. The USA has a gun violent culture. That is a big problem. In European countries, killings are not random or out of pleausure. There is always a reason behind and is more on a personal level. I never heard of people shooting few rounds in the public, or just stabbing random people on the streets every week or so.



I know Europe as a continent and the US as a country. I've lived in both. All countries have crime. But the USA has very high crime rates, especially homicide rates and gun related crimes. In the US it is the norm and not a big deal reading news about shootings. In countries such as Germany or Denmark, not very common and also not normal. Unless it happens once or twice every year, and it is a personal type of killing with a reason behind it. But every day or week?.. Not normal. What I am telling you is reality, no BS stats.

Answer 3

Pfft i'm from Scotland and Glasgow's violent crime rate should be taken with a pinch of salt. The only reason for the high crime figures is when rangers play Celtic. Everyone likes to get involved in a fight after that. Its not assault, it's just a bit of banter. As for murders, they are so rare and when they do happen its two weegie idiots who got in a fight at the bar which accidentally escalated to far. I've never heard of any foreigners getting murdered in Glasgow except maybe and Englishman. I would feel perfectly safe going through Glasgow town centre at night and i'm from Edinburgh so that's saying something.



At least we don't use guns.

Answer 4

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Answer 5

My only issue is that you peg an entire continent and that argument is disengenious at best. It's like saying if you combine the crime rates of Canada, the US, and Mexico, our crime rates would probably border third world &^*thole status. My father was in the US army and was stationed in Germany. I have never felt unsafe there. To be fair, all countries have their crime ridden areas and murder is what happens. Norway, except for that one off gun killing spree is realtively safe. In NYC, it can be extremely safe depending on where you are. The south Bronx is extremely dangerous but the southern tip of manhattan, you can walk the streets at 3am and not be bothered. Again, it depends on where you live and that is why conflating separate statistics is not right.

Answer 6

The reason is, much of Europe is a nanny state with security cameras in all public places. They also have a higher rate of assaults. With that said, liberty has it's price.