Question:
Many Republicans detest Bill Clinton. What did he do or not do to be considered a worse president than Bush?
2007-12-13 10:03:01 UTC
Many Republicans detest Bill Clinton. What did he do or not do to be considered a worse president than Bush?
29 answers:
2007-12-13 10:40:41 UTC
He is a Democrat. Period. That is why they hate him. If Bush did the same things as Clinton they would take up for him. Of course we have some on our side that is the same way, just not to the point of ragging on them 7 years after the fact. I detest Reagan, but I didn't try to use him to justify Clinton's screw ups.
Samwise
2007-12-13 10:22:49 UTC
Okay, here's an answer from a liberal Democrat.



Bill Clinton's personal involvement with a vulnerable young adult over whom he had supervisory powers, constitutes sexual exploitation. I know of no misbehavior of that sort by President Bush, and that situation and the subsequent political flap ought to have been seen as predictable by Democrats in 1992.



Clinton was my absolute rock-bottom choice from the seven or so Democrats running then. That being said, I was quite astonished at his accomplishments in office. The fiscal conservatism (not really popular with a lot of Democrats) was admirable; the fact that it actually wiped out the deficits seemed almost miraculous.



And President Bush's effect on the country ought to have been equally predictable in 2000, as he was promising to return us to borrow-and-spend government throughout the campaign.
Fallen
2007-12-13 10:13:25 UTC
One, never taking any appropriate action against Bin Laden and the countries responsible for all the terrorists attacks that happened under his 8 years of Presidency. From Marine base bombings, WTC bombing in 1993, 2 US Embassy bombings, USS Cole bombing. All he says is do not overreact towards the terrorists, that was in 1996 when he gave his first speech regarding the 1993 WTC bombing at a luncheon.



He had a chance to catch Bin Laden due to the Sudanese government keeping a leash on him, Saudis did not want to interfere for fear of backlash with other countries so they stayed clear (understandable in that part of the country) but Clinton, well this was 1997 and he said Bin Laden was not a top priority. After all the attacks thus far in his Presidency from Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, he is not a top priority. Nice.



At least Bush had the backbone to go to war with al-Qaeda.



Oh and Clinton cut back on national security, shut down military bases, cut back over 25% military funding, sold China rocket technology, now China has a powerful nuclear weapons program. He has that disaster of Waco, which imagine if Waco would have had happened under Bush's watch and how everyone would be demanding his impeachment and really tearing into him. Not a peep like that from the media with Clinton, though. My no.



So far we have not been attacked by al-Qaeda under Bush. We are finally exposing terrorists where they are. Capturing terrorists and putting them in courts/prisons. Only problem I see with Bush is he isn't pardoning the border patrol agents or Marines who are being falsely accused for a "massacre" that never happened. The Dubai ports deal and his lack of doing anything about the border and illegals. Beyond that compared to Clinton he isn't all that bad.
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2016-10-11 09:18:16 UTC
Oh please, there's no longer even a opposition right here. Clinton pointed out the al Qaeda hazard and made going after terrorists a precedence. while Bush took place of work, he and his administration disregarded the al Qaeda hazard, demoted the counterterrorism unit, left counterterrorism out of the DOJ precedence funds, and disregarded repeated warnings of an drawing close attack. Bush individually disregarded the August 6, 2001 PDB. Then, to authentic all of it off, after our u . s . replaced into attacked, Bush desperate to invade Iraq, a rustic completely unrelated to the attack thereby diverting components removed from the conflict in Afghanistan and uselessly expending lives and hundreds of billions of taxpayer funds. meanwhile Osama bin weighted down remains at super. Bush has plenty to respond to for with regards to his coping with of this so-called conflict on terror.
gr
2007-12-13 10:34:49 UTC
bill clinton balanced the budget. something bush senior and junior never did.



I am 100% sure Both (all) presidents LIED, only clinton lied about a BJ while Bush lied about WMD.



For those who never had a BJ, you should try it..you will like it. :)



can someone give GWBush a BJ so we can impeach him?
mjmayer188
2007-12-13 10:42:12 UTC
Two things:



1) He lied under oath to congress and the American people.



2) His lack of respect for the office of the president. A BJ in the oval office is just wrong.
deeppost
2007-12-13 10:14:32 UTC
Clinton got the Hoes and those uptight republicans can't handle it, eventhough they are all closet freaks. Clinton was the man and should not even be mentioned in the breath as bush since he is so pathetic. The rest of the world laughed at us when Clinton got caught foolin around and there were talks of impeachment, they didn't see the big deal. now the rest of the world thinks our whole administration is a joke.
Mercedes
2007-12-13 12:41:26 UTC
He stood by and did nothing when our Embassy's were attacked, when the Cole was attacked and our soldiers killed, when he let ben Laden go........... As a result we're in the mess we're in now! Bush is trying to clean up Clinton's mess.
2007-12-13 10:12:56 UTC
Perjury, Obstruction of Justice, Sexual Assault, Selling out to the Chinese, Ignoring Islamic terrorism, Taking credit for an economy that was none of his doing and turning it into a recession (without the help of high oil prices or a war). Increased class hatred. Brought shame and disgrace upon the office of the President with his sexual hi-jinks with a girl the age of his daughter. This after promising to the American people that his would be the most moral administration in the history of the US.
jeeper_peeper321
2007-12-13 10:12:15 UTC
You mean besides:



Increasing the trade deficit 1,302%

Increasing the uninsured from 12.9% to 16.3% ( the record)

Passing NAFTA

Increasing the National Debt 8 years straight

Cutting the Military 40%

World com and enron which occured under his watch



having 38 indictments against administration members

Having 33 convictions of administration members

( the record of any administration )



Attacking/invading six countries on four separate continents, without congressional or UN approval





Should i go on ?
Nabil A
2007-12-13 10:22:46 UTC
For one thing, he's the first U.S. president that didn't come from a background of affluence. Also, he was the first Anglo politician that actually felt comfortable around minorities, especially African-Americans. Lastly, he's a Rhodes Scholar and that means he's smart as hell. We all know who the republican party feels about smart people
2007-12-13 11:02:02 UTC
He lied under oath.



He compromised the safety of the American people by trying to cover up his sexual trysts instead of taking out terrorists.



Notice no his non- response to WTC 1 bombing, The embassy bombings, the USS Kohl bombing, The Khobar towers bombing, leaving Somalia with our til between our legs



He could have taken Bin Laden out and didn't



He's a congenital liar who couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it



He signed NAFTA



He sold the country out to the highest bidder (Marc Rich pardon anyone)?



He is married to a power hungry succubus with fat cankles
Colonel
2007-12-13 10:10:56 UTC
He failed to kill bin Laden when he had the chance and he did not make any effort to go after him after the Embassy Bombings of 1998 or the U.S.S. Cole bombing of 2000.

Hillary even hated the Taliban back then, she nor Bill did anything about them. Now they blame Bush for failing to capture bin Laden?

Of course there are always his lies, perjury charge and impeachment.



Oh, and before anyone says Bush lied, why has he not been impeached or charged? I'm sure there is some excuse for that right?
jelle
2007-12-13 10:08:44 UTC
Well, he did absolutely nothing, but flash that "aw shucks" smile. But he was definitely preferable to his man-wife, Hillary.



Backcountry seems like a POS that probably gets it from others of the same sex. Oops, that was just mean.
2007-12-13 10:12:04 UTC
being worse is a subjectivity..they cannot be compared on any level..each of them will have a legacy that will be easy to rank..
Lou
2007-12-13 10:16:05 UTC
Bush is not even in the same ballpark as Clinton.

Clinton has brains and balls. Bush is unintelligent and arrogant.
labken1817
2007-12-13 10:06:56 UTC
According to most republicans I talk to all he did was run as a democrat. I think most would have liked him and even defended him if there was a little (R) by his name.
wcowell2000
2007-12-13 10:23:38 UTC
I didn't hate the guy, but he was a very ineffectual President. What did he get accomplished? That is my issue with him.
Gus Buckingham
2007-12-13 10:06:45 UTC
He is just the person they dump blame on to take attention way from Bush. Because he is a different party it makes things easier.
Issa
2007-12-13 10:09:11 UTC
He lied, he gave military secrets to China, he had Vince Foster killed, he did nothing about terrorism and he invented Al Gore.
2007-12-13 10:15:35 UTC
Listen to Origin L. He said it best.
ArRo
2007-12-13 10:08:25 UTC
Most Republicans hate Democrats...it's as simple as that!
nileslad
2007-12-13 10:17:06 UTC
He was all packaging and very little product. It drove us Repubs nuts that such a broad swath of America couldn't see past the wrapper and kept goo-ing over him. It lowered our faith in the American character that he had the support that he did.
Alan S
2007-12-13 10:09:28 UTC
he was a sleazy hillbilly and I thought he was a disgrace to America but Georgie got in and showed what true disgrace is. My opinion of Billy has since changed.
2007-12-13 10:09:43 UTC
lied, lied, lied, gave information to China, allow Terrorist build up, for late term abortions...
Mencken
2007-12-13 10:08:33 UTC
More on Woman Who Filed Sex Based Lawsuit Against President George W. Bush Found Dead



by Cherryl Aldave



On December 2nd 2002, Margie D. Schoedinger, a 38-year-old woman from Missouri City, Texas, filed a civil lawsuit against President George W. Bush at the Fort Bend County, Texas, County Clerk's office accusing the President of drugging and raping her. Nine months later on Sept. 22, 2003 she was dead. The medical examiner's office ruled her death a "suicide." Schoedinger, an African-American, was killed by a shot to the head with a Glock handgun.



This story has been covered by several internet media outlets and by a small English newspaper, The New Nation, but not by the national U.S. media. The first person to try to bring this issue to the national forefront was writer Jackson Thoreau, co-author of the e-book "We Will Not Get Over It: Restoring a Legitimate White House".



In an article which first appeared sometime in 2003 on OpEdNews.com, Thoreau claims that he interviewed Schoedinger shortly before her death. Thoreau writes that "she didn't sound 'deranged' to me... She sounded like someone who had gone through something weird and was trying to sort it out. She sounded like someone who wanted the truth to come out."



Supposedly during this conversation with Thoreau, Schoedinger stated, "I am still trying to prosecute [the lawsuit]…I want to get this matter settled and go on with my life… People have to be accountable for what they do, and that's why I'm pursuing it." Thoreau also says that "For the record, I contacted Bush's media office about Schoedinger and never heard back. As expected, I didn't have much luck with the Fort Bend County and other Texas authorities, nor did other reporters who tried."



In writing about the case Thoreau references an article written in the Fort Bend Star shortly after Schoedinger filed her suit.



I'm not sure at this time whether the Fort Bend Star is solely online or if it's also in print, but the article was written by LeaAnne Klentzman. If you do a Boolean search for her you will find that she has apparently been a reporter in the area for several years. In an updated article about Schoedinger, Thoreau also claims to have had recent contact with Klentzman.



In Klentzman's article, printed December 11, 2002 Klentzman wrote that Schoedinger was "alleging 'race based harassment and individual sex crimes committed against her and her husband...' The suit lists numerous offenses and asks for actual damages, punitive damages and judgments against George W. Bush."



Klentzman also quotes a part of the petition which states "Whether or not Plaintiff's husband was raped remains in question, as Plaintiff was drugged after she was raped and her husband was drugged before her rape."



Klentzman goes on to report that "the Sugar Land Police Department conducted a background investigation into Plaintiff's past activities," and according to the article they discoverd that Schoedinger had "dated George W. Bush as a minor." Sugar Land is a town close to Missouri City, and coincidentally is also the hometown of House Majority Leader Tom DeLay. Also, according to Thoreau "the suspicious 2002 shooting death of former Enron executive John Clifford Baxter in Sugar Land occurred not far from Schoedinger's residence. Baxter's death was also ruled a suicide by the Harris County Medical Examiner's office, a conclusion questioned by some, including Judicial Watch."



Klentzman never spoke with Schoedinger. In her article Klentzman says that although she made "several attempts" to contact Schoedinger, she never returned any calls, so I believe Klentzman gathered her material for the article strictly from the court papers.



One day after Klentzman's article ran, WorldNet Daily picked up the story but with a twist. The headline of the WorldNet article reads "Suit claims Bush conspired to cover up rape. Unsubstantiated report goes online prematurely".



The writer, Jon Dougherty, reports that editor Jean Sandlin of the Fort Bend Star said the article "was posted on the Internet prematurely and without sufficient fact-checking" and "in speaking of Schoedinger, Sandlin added: 'I had heard she was a nutcase.'"



Dougherty goes on to say that "Repeated attempts to contact the reporter who wrote the story, LeaAnn Klentzman, were unsuccessful" before reporting that in the court papers Schoedinger "also alleged that she has been harassed and threatened by federal agents, her bank accounts looted, her husband fired from his job, and that she had a miscarriage after being beaten. In court papers, she intimated that Bush 'might have been the father of the child that was lost.'"



Dougherty's article also excerpts a portion of the court papers in which Schoedinger alleges "Defendant [Bush] took personal responsibility for these decisions...explaining to Plaintiff [Schoedinger] that committing suicide would be her best option…"



"Plaintiff is essentially dead in any case," the filing said, according to the WorldNet report. Dougherty says he attempted to contact the White House, but "The White House did not respond to requests for comment by press time."



Some voices are saying that Schoedinger's demise is just the lastest in a string of curiously timed deaths surrounding Bush, including that of "Fortunate Son" author Jim Hatfield.



For now that is all conjecture but consider this: Would the mainstream media have covered this lawsuit if the defendant was Bill Clinton? Pehaps Margie Schoedinger was a lunatic. Then again perhaps she wasn't, and that could be precisely why she's dead.



I write this with the hope that some larger news publication or civil rights group will strongly advocate for inquiry into this issue.



You can find the court papers on the Fort Bend County Clerk's Office website. The link will take you to a search page where, if you just enter her last name, Schoedinger, in the "Name" box the documents should come up. The documents are downloadable in pdf or tiff form, and have this huge "unofficial" stamped across them, I suppose because they want people to buy the documents if you need to use them for any reason. In reading the documents it seems to me that everything that has been reported in the internet articles as far as what the petition says is accurate.



However, some of the documents filled out by Clerk's Offcie officials contain mundane spelling errors. Errors that officials used to filing these types of forms might not usually make. Also, much has been made in internet threads about the babbling nature of her allegations. The petition is indeed somewhat rambling and erratic, but at the time of filing the petition Schoedinger may have been under extreme duress, which is understandable if even a portion of this is true.



All I know is, my research supports these facts: A real woman who really filed a sexually based lawsuit against a sitting president is really dead because of a gunshot wound to the head the medical examnier says was self-inflicted. Common science tells us that women are far less likely to kill themselves with firearms, but this is just one of the many peculiarities of this case. The seemingly real obituary from the September 27, 2003 edition of the Houston Chronicle is certainly compelling:



"MARGIE D. SCHOEDINGER expired Monday, 9/22/03 . Funeral Service: Saturday, 9/27/03 , 1:30pm, McCoy & Harrison Chapel. Interment, Houston Memorial Gardens.



And no major media outlet has said anything about this.
Con4Life
2007-12-13 10:06:27 UTC
It was his lack of security that got us 911.
2007-12-13 10:05:58 UTC
perjury
MrOrph
2007-12-13 10:09:11 UTC
I don't detest the man. I don't know him personally.



But, here is what he did:



RECORDS SET



- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance

- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*

- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation

- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify

- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly

- First president sued for sexual harassment.

- First president accused of rape.

- First first lady to come under criminal investigation

- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case

- First president to establish a legal defense fund.

- First president to be held in contempt of court

- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions

- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad

- First president disbarred from the US Supreme Court and a state court



* According to our best information, 40 government officials were indicted or convicted in the wake of Watergate. A reader computes that there was a total of 31 Reagan era convictions, including 14 because of Iran-Contra and 16 in the Department of Housing & Urban Development scandal. 47 individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine were convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes with 33 of these occurring during the Clinton administration itself. There were in addition 61 indictments or misdemeanor charges. 14 persons were imprisoned. A key difference between the Clinton story and earlier ones was the number of criminals with whom he was associated before entering the White House.



Using a far looser standard that included resignations, David R. Simon and D. Stanley Eitzen in Elite Deviance, say that 138 appointees of the Reagan administration either resigned under an ethical cloud or were criminally indicted. Curiously Haynes Johnson uses the same figure but with a different standard in "Sleep-Walking Through History: America in the Reagan Years: "By the end of his term, 138 administration officials had been convicted, had been indicted, or had been the subject of official investigations for official misconduct and/or criminal violations. In terms of number of officials involved, the record of his administration was the worst ever."



STARR-RAY INVESTIGATION



- Number of Starr-Ray investigation convictions or guilty pleas (including one governor, one associate attorney general and two Clinton business partners): 14

- Number of Clinton Cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 5

- Number of Reagan cabinet members who came under criminal investigation: 4

- Number of top officials jailed in the Teapot Dome Scandal: 3



CRIME STATS



- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47

- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33

- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61

- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122



SMALTZ INVESTIGATION



- Guilty pleas and convictions obtained by Donald Smaltz in cases involving charges of bribery and fraud against former Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy and associated individuals and businesses: 15

- Acquitted or overturned cases (including Espy): 6

- Fines and penalties assessed: $11.5 million

- Amount Tyson Food paid in fines and court costs: $6 million



CAMPAIGN FINANCE INVESTIGATION



- As of June 2000, the Justice Department listed 25 people indicted and 19 convicted because of the 1996 Clinton-Gore fundraising scandals.

- According to the House Committee on Government Reform in September 2000, 79 House and Senate witnesses asserted the Fifth Amendment in the course of investigations into Gore's last fundraising campaign.

-James Riady entered a plea agreement to pay an $8.5 million fine for campaign finance crimes. This was a record under campaign finance laws.



CLINTON MACHINE CRIMES FOR WHICH CONVICTIONS WERE OBTAINED



Drug trafficking (3), racketeering, extortion, bribery (4), tax evasion, kickbacks, embezzlement (2), fraud (12), conspiracy (5), fraudulent loans, illegal gifts (1), illegal campaign contributions (5), money laundering (6), perjury, obstruction of justice.



HISTORICAL CONTEXT



- Number of independent counsel inquiries since the 1978 law was passed: 19

- Number that have produced indictments: 7

- Number that produced more convictions than the Starr investigation: 1

- Median length of investigations that led to convictions: 44 months

- Length of Starr-Ray investigation: 69 months.

- Total cost of the Starr investigation (3/00) $52 million

- Total cost of the Iran-Contra investigation: $48.5 million

- Total cost to taxpayers of the Madison Guarantee failure: $73 million



OTHER MATTERS INVESTIGATED BY SPECIAL PROSECUTORS AND CONGRESS, OR REPORTED IN THE MEDIA



Bank and mail fraud, violations of campaign finance laws, illegal foreign campaign funding, improper exports of sensitive technology, physical violence and threats of violence, solicitation of perjury, intimidation of witnesses, bribery of witnesses, attempted intimidation of prosecutors, perjury before congressional committees, lying in statements to federal investigators and regulatory officials, flight of witnesses, obstruction of justice, bribery of cabinet members, real estate fraud, tax fraud, drug trafficking, failure to investigate drug trafficking, bribery of state officials, use of state police for personal purposes, exchange of promotions or benefits for sexual favors, using state police to provide false court testimony, laundering of drug money through a state agency, false reports by medical examiners and others investigating suspicious deaths, the firing of the RTC and FBI director when these agencies were investigating Clinton and his associates, failure to conduct autopsies in suspicious deaths, providing jobs in return for silence by witnesses, drug abuse, improper acquisition and use of 900 FBI files, improper futures trading, murder, sexual abuse of employees, false testimony before a federal judge, shredding of documents, withholding and concealment of subpoenaed documents, fabricated charges against (and improper firing of) White House employees, inviting drug traffickers, foreign agents and participants in organized crime to the White House.



ARKANSAS ALTZHEIMER'S



Number of times that Clinton figures who testified in court or before Congress said that they didn't remember, didn't know, or something similar.



Bill Kennedy 116

Harold Ickes 148

Ricki Seidman 160

Bruce Lindsey 161

Bill Burton 191

Mark Gearan 221

Mack McLarty 233

Neil Egglseston 250

Hillary Clinton 250

John Podesta 264

Jennifer O'Connor 343

Dwight Holton 348

Patsy Thomasson 420

Jeff Eller 697



FROM THE WASHINGTON TIMES: In the portions of President Clinton's Jan. 17 deposition that have been made public in the Paula Jones case, his memory failed him 267 times. This is a list of his answers and how many times he gave each one.



I don't remember - 71

I don't know - 62

I'm not sure - 17

I have no idea - 10

I don't believe so - 9

I don't recall - 8

I don't think so - 8

I don't have any specific recollection - 6

I have no recollection - 4

Not to my knowledge - 4

I just don't remember - 4

I don't believe - 4

I have no specific recollection - 3

I might have - 3

I don't have any recollection of that - 2 I don't have a specific memory - 2

I don't have any memory of that - 2

I just can't say - 2

I have no direct knowledge of that - 2

I don't have any idea - 2

Not that I recall - 2

I don't believe I did - 2

I can't remember - 2

I can't say - 2

I do not remember doing so - 2

Not that I remember - 2

I'm not aware - 1

I honestly don't know - 1

I don't believe that I did - 1

I'm fairly sure - 1

I have no other recollection - 1

I'm not positive - 1

I certainly don't think so - 1

I don't really remember - 1

I would have no way of remembering that - 1

That's what I believe happened - 1

To my knowledge, no - 1

To the best of my knowledge - 1

To the best of my memory - 1

I honestly don't recall - 1

I honestly don't remember - 1

That's all I know - 1

I don't have an independent recollection of that - 1

I don't actually have an independent memory of that - 1

As far as I know - 1

I don't believe I ever did that - 1

That's all I know about that - 1

I'm just not sure - 1

Nothing that I remember - 1

I simply don't know - 1

I would have no idea - 1

I don't know anything about that - 1

I don't have any direct knowledge of that - 1

I just don't know - 1

I really don't know - 1

I can't deny that, I just -- I have no memory of that at all - 1



ARKANSAS SUDDEN DEATH SYNDROME



- Number of persons in the Clinton machine orbit who are alleged to have committed suicide: 9

- Number known to have been murdered: 12

- Number who died in plane crashes: 6

- Number who died in single car automobile accidents: 3

- Number of one-person sking fatalities: 1

- Number of key witnesses who have died of heart attacks while in federal custody under questionable circumstances: 1

- Number of unexplained deaths: 4

- Total suspicious deaths: 46

- Number of northern Mafia killings during peak years of 1968-78: 30

- Number of Dixie Mafia killings during same period: 156



It is important in considering these fatal incidents to bear in mind the following:



The fact that anomalies need to be investigated further carries no presumption of how a death actually occurred, only that there remain serious questions that require answers.



The possibility of foul play must be taken seriously in a major criminal conspiracy in which over two score individuals and firms have been convicted and over 100 witnesses have pled the Fifth Amendment or fled the country.



If foul play did occur in any of these cases, that fact by itself does not carry the presumption that the the Clinton machine was involved. Given the footprints of organized crime, drug trade, foreign espionage, and intelligence agencies on the trail of the Clinton story, such a assumption would not be warranted. It is also well to keep in mind the classic prohibition era movie in which the corrupt poitician's job was not to engage in illegal acts but to avoid noticing them.

ARKANSAS MONEY MANAGEMENT



- Amount of an alleged electronic transfer from the Arkansas Development Financial Authority to a bank in the Cayman Islands during 1980s: $50 million

- Grand Cayman's population: 18,000

- Number of commercial banks: 570

- Number of bank regulators: 1

- Amount Arkansas state pension fund invested in high-risk repos in the mid-80s in one purchase in April 1985: $52 million through the Worthen Bank.

- Number of days thereafter that the state's brokerage firm went belly up: 3

- Amount Arkansas pension fund dropped overnight as a result: 15%

- Percent of Worthen bank that Mochtar Riady bought over the next four months to bail out the bank and the then governor, Bill Clinton: 40%.

- Percent of purchasers from the Clintons and McDougals of resort lots who lost the land because of the sleazy financing provisions: over 50%



THE MEDIA



- Number of journalists covering Whitewater who have been fired, transferred off the beat, resigned or otherwise gotten into trouble because of their work on the scandals (Doug Frantz, Jim Wooten, Richard Behar, Christopher Ruddy, Michael Isikoff, David Eisenstadt, Yinh Chan, Jonathan Broder, James R. Norman, Zoh Hieronimus): 10



FRIENDS OF BILL



- Number of times John Huang took the 5th Amendment in answer to questions during a Judicial Watch deposition: 1,000

- Visits made to the White House by investigation subjects Johnny Chung, James Riady, John Huang, and Charlie Trie. 160

- Number of campaign contributors who got overnights at the White House in the two years before the 1996 election: 577

- Number of members of Thomas Boggs's law firm who have held top positions in the Clinton administration. 18

- Number of times John Huang was briefed by CIA: 37

- Number of calls Huang made from Commerce Department to Lippo banks: 261

- Number of intelligence reports Huang read while at Commerce Department: 500



UNEXPLAINED PHENOMENA



- FBI files misappropriated by the White House: c. 900

- Estimated number of witnesses quoted in FBI files misappropriated by the White House: 18,000

- Number of witnesses who developed medical problems at critical points in Clinton scandals investigation (Tucker, Hale, both McDougals, Lindsey): 5

- Problem areas listed in a memo by Clinton's own lawyer in preparation for the president's defense: 40

- Number of witnesses and critics of Clinton subjected to IRS audit: 45

- Number of names placed in a White House secret database without the knowledge of those named: c. 200,000

- Number of women involved with Clinton who claim to have been physically threatened (Sally Perdue, Gennifer Flowers, Kathleen Willey, Linda Tripp, Elizabeth Ward Gracen, Juantia Broaddrick): 6

- Number of men involved in the Clinton scandals who have been beaten up or claimed to have been intimidated: 10



THE HIDDEN ELECTION



USA Today calls it "the hidden election," in which nearly 7,000 state legislative seats are decided with only minimal media and public attention. But there was an important national story here: evidence of the disaster that Bill Clinton was for the Democratic Party. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, Democrats held a 1,542 seat lead in the state bodies in 1990. As of 1998 that lead had shrunk to 288. That's a loss of over 1,200 state legislative seats, nearly all of them under Clinton. Across the US, the Democrats controled only 65 more state senate seats than the Republicans.



Further, in 1992, the Democrats controlled 17 more state legislatures than the Republicans. After 1998, the Republicans controlled one more than the Democrats. Not only was this a loss of 9 legislatures under Clinton, but it was the first time since 1954 that the GOP had controlled more state legislatures than the Democrats (they tied in 1968).



Here's what happened to the Democrats under Clinton, based on our latest figures:



- GOP seats gained in House since Clinton became president: 48

- GOP seats gained in Senate since Clinton became president: 8

- GOP governorships gained since Clinton became president: 11

- GOP state legislative seats gained since Clinton became president: 1,254

as of 1998

- State legislatures taken over by GOP since Clinton became president: 9

- Democrat officeholders who have become Republicans since Clinton became

president: 439 as of 1998

- Republican officeholders who have become Democrats since Clinton became president: 3



THE CLINTON LEGACY: LONELY VOICES



Here are some of the all too rare public officials, reporters, and others who spoke truth to the dismally corrupt power of Bill and Hill Clinton's political machine -- some at risk to their careers, others at risk to their lives. A few points to note:



- Those corporatist media reporters who attempted to report the story often found themselves muzzled; some even lost their jobs. The only major dailies that consistently handled the story well were the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Times.



- Nobody on this list has gotten rich and many you may not have even heard of. Taking on the Clintons typically has not been a happy or rewarding experience. At least ten reporters were fired, transferred off their beats, resigned, or otherwise got into trouble because of their work on the scandals.



- Contrary to the popular impression, the politics of those listed ranges from the left to the right, and from the ideological to the independent.



PUBLIC OFFICIALS



MIGUEL RODRIGUEZ was a prosecutor on the staff of Kenneth Starr. His attempts to uncover the truth in the Vincent Foster death case were repeatedly foiled and he was the subject of planted stories undermining his credibility and implying that he was unstable. Rodriguez eventually resigned.



JEAN DUFFEY: Head of a joint federal-county drug task force in Arkansas. Her first instructions from her boss: "Jean, you are not to use the drug task force to investigate any public official." Duffey's work, however, led deep into the heart of the Dixie Mafia, including members of the Clinton machine and the investigation of the so-called "train deaths." Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reports that when she produced a star witness who could testify to Clinton's involvement with cocaine, the local prosecuting attorney, Dan Harmon issued a subpoena for all the task force records, including "the incriminating files on his own activities. If Duffey had complied it would have exposed 30 witnesses and her confidential informants to violent retributions. She refused." Harmon issued a warrant for her arrest and friendly cops told her that there was a $50,000 price on her head. She eventually fled to Texas. The once-untouchable Harmon was later convicted of racketeering, extortion and drug dealing.



BILL DUNCAN: An IRS investigator in Arkansas who drafted some 30 federal indictments of Arkansas figures on money laundering and other charges. Clinton biographer Roger Morris quotes a source who reviewed the evidence: "Those indictments were a real slam dunk if there ever was one." The cases were suppressed, many in the name of "national security." Duncan was never called to testify. Other IRS agents and state police disavowed Duncan and turned on him. Said one source, "Somebody outside ordered it shut down and the walls went up."



RUSSELL WELCH: An Arkansas state police detective working with Duncan. Welch developed a 35-volume, 3,000 page archive on drug and money laundering operations at Mena. His investigation was so compromised that a high state police official even let one of the targets of the probe look through the file. At one point, Welch was sprayed in the face with poison, later identified by the Center for Disease Control as anthrax. He would write in his diary, "I feel like I live in Russia, waiting for the secret police to pounce down. A government has gotten out of control. Men find themselves in positions of power and suddenly crimes become legal." Welch is no longer with the state police.



DAN SMALTZ: Smaltz did an outstanding job investigating and prosecuting charges involving illegal payoffs to Agriculture Secretary Mike Espy, yet was treated with disparaging and highly inaccurate reporting by the likes of the David Broder and the NY Times. Espy was acquitted under a law that made it necessary to not only prove that he accepted gratuities but that he did something specific in return. On the other hand, Tyson Foods copped a plea in the same case, paying $6 million in fines and serving four years' probation. The charge: that Tyson had illegally offered Espy $12,000 in airplane rides, football tickets and other payoffs. In the Espy investigation, Smaltz obtained 15 convictions and collected over $11 million in fines and civil penalties. Offenses for which convictions were obtained included false statements, concealing money from prohibited sources, illegal gratuities, illegal contributions, falsifying records, interstate transportation of stolen property, money laundering, and illegal receipt of USDA subsidies. In addition, Janet Reno blocked Smaltz from pursuing leads aimed at allegations of major drug trafficking in Arkansas and payoffs to the then governor of the state, WJ Clinton. Espy had become Ag secretary only after being flown to Arkansas to get the approval of chicken king Don Tyson.



DAVID SCHIPPERS was House impeachment counsel and a Chicago Democrat. He did a highly creditable job but since he didn't fit the right-wing conspiracy theory, the Clintonista media downplayed his work. Thus most Americans don't know that he told Newsmax, "Let me tell you, if we had a chance to put on a case, I would have put live witnesses before the committee. But the House leadership, and I'm not talking about Henry Hyde, they just killed us as far as time was concerned. I begged them to let me take it into this year. Then I screamed for witnesses before the Senate. But there was nothing anybody could do to get those Senators to show any courage. They told us essentially, you're not going to get 67 votes so why are you wasting our time." Schippers also said that while a number of representatives had looked at additional evidence kept under seal in a nearby House building, not a single senator did.



JOHN CLARKE: When Patrick Knowlton stopped to relieve himself in Ft. Marcy Park 70 minutes before the discovery of Vince Foster's body, he saw things that got him into deep trouble. His interview statements were falsified and prior to testifying he claims he was overtly harassed by more than a score of men in a classic witness intimidation technique. In some cases there were witnesses. John Clarke was his dogged lawyer in the witness intimidation case that was largely ignored by the media, even when the three-judge panel overseeing the Starr investigation permitted Knowlton to append a 20 page addendum to the Starr Report.


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