Is it possible to decrease violent homicides without some form of gun control?

Question

It seems to me there are two real sides to this issue:

1) Those who believe that you must restrict the means of which people can conduct the behaviour (ie: restricting gun ownership and access to guns to reduce gun violence), and

2) Those who believe that the behaviour must change through a change of intentions, that we can make social and environmental changes that can influence the behaviour.

Many point to the USA's extremely high homicide rate with guns as an example of the consequences of easy access to gun ownership. Others point to the USA's social environment as the real culprit, and that a few sick individuals give a bad name to responsible gun owners.

What side do you lean towards and what do you think? If you can think of more points of view than what I just mentioned, by all means contribute.

Answer 1

I think when you have similar laws in 2 places and vastly different results, its a pretty clear indicator on which is the solution/primary cause. If ppl want to make another "feel good law" that does nothing, I suppose we cant stop them.



Connecticut has a state assault weapons ban, now. How did it work?

Answer 2

It is both and all that you can think of that is wrong and evil. Guns kill people. People have guns that they shoot and kill other people with. Reformation needs to start at home and in the hearts of men towards another living being. Only God can sustain anyone. He has the power to!

2 Chronicles 7:14 says, "If My people, which are called by My name, shall humble themselves and pray (true turn around), and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land."

We vacillate and turn to this and that, but those things will never be the answer, save only through God alone.



Prayer in schools and in homes did not hurt anything or anybody; in fact the violence didn't just creep on us, but when we stop serving God, is when things go haywire. The nation (USA) kept some form of order held at a Higher accountability other then ourselves.



It is obvious that humans will not keep control of themselves, because of the lower nature that serves within, "SIN"! (Romans 7) We need to get back to the Word of God, the church, the faith, the hope and deliverance it brings.

When a tragedy hits home, we flock to the churches, and do prayer vigils, to who? There is no change or staying power from people as a whole. We wax worse and worse from the things that are good and right. Once we figure we got the bull by the horns again, it back to the old grind. Who is God, what have He done for us?, kind of mentality. We play church, and then we want something else piped to us that sound better than God and His ordinances. We want to disregard the laws of God, but we want His blessings too. What a a world we live in!

The only cure to this madness is God's Spirit over us and in our hearts continually. If people would look at history and how the issues of life were not so looming, we would get a clue. This is because we were more together under God, as a moral nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Now, our National Anthem, pledge of allegiance, taking an oath or a promise, justice system and all that pertain to law and order is under attack by the very corrupt minds that change the way we lived in safety. It is just sounding words that minister nothing to the sin sick soul. We are all vulnerable because no one can see the corrupt hearts and minds of another human being, that society have created. God is the answer for the world today!

Answer 3

The majority of gun crimes are committed with illegal (stolen, unregistered, or banned models of) firearms. So restricting gun ownership for law-abiding citizens will only end up disarming... out of 1,000 owners, maybe 1 who would have committed a crime. Meanwhile there are now 999 good people who now have no means to defend themselves. But you know how many criminals will be disarmed? Zero. Because they are criminals and they are not following the law anyway, so changing the law will have absolutely no effect on them.



I do believe that it is too easy to obtain a gun. There need to be stricter regulations in place. There is absolutely no excuse for the Aurora shooter to have been able to legally obtain any gun, let alone several of them, and then hundreds of rounds of ammo. And yet, he did. Legally. While having a mental history full of red flags. The system is flawed and needs to be fixed. It should not be possible to purchase firearms or ammo online, and the background checks for gun registration needs to be taken way more seriously than it actually is.



BUT, the bigger and more urgent problem is the criminals who get their weapons illegally, and the deplorable mental health care system in this country. If you look at the gun crime rates of other countries, you will see that they are significantly lower than that of the US. Part of this is inevitable because the US is so much bigger than those countries, but you also have to consider the fact that a lot of those countries have something the US doesn't have: universal health care, including MENTAL HEALTH CARE. Other countries take care of their mentally unstable, they don't throw them out on the streets. Hell, I called several therapists today due to a recent bout of depression, and I was refused by one because she is currently only treating OCD patients, and told by another that I could not be seen until March. Another sent me to an alternate number that ended with an answering machine.

And then even when you do manage to see somebody, what do they usually do? Throw a pill at you and send you on your way. And oh, you weren't done talking yet? Too bad, there's now a time limit on appointments. Time's up, get off my couch.



So it's a combination of going after the wrong people-- those who obtain their guns legally for responsible purposes-- and not treating the mental problems that cause people to go on rampages in the first place.



It also doesn't make sense to me why anything bigger than a handgun is available to the public. Who the hell needs a rifle or military-grade firearm for self defense?

Answer 4

Yes.



First off, these school shootings (and I am not talking about gang violence) that we see on the news, where the kid shoots their classmates and sometimes even their parents, have one thing in common: they were all on or withdrawing from anti-depressants that caused them to be psychotic and violent. This is true in EVERY case and you can verify that if you do your research. This link is a piece Fox did on antidepressants and school shootings: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XHNJyti1gE



The danger is not easy access to guns. It is easy access to antidepressants that turn people who are down/blue/sad into violent homicidal/suicidal maniacs. We only need to ask one simple question to determine “what could have set the shooter off?” That question is: What psychiatric drug was he taking or withdrawing from? Sometimes simple questions are the hardest to ask. That question would be hard for the media to ask, because after reporting the event, taking station breaks for advertisements for antidepressants and sedatives might give big media editors and producers indigestion, since their very existence depends on Big Pharma sponsorship.



Mr Stoner is greatly correct in his assessment and points, though "Jewish control of the media" paints the wrong picture against people who are Jewish by birth, like myself. But he is correct that the media is corporately owned and controlled by business interests, some of whom are Jewish. He is also correct in that the Second Amendment has been/is/will be under attack by corrupt corporate interests that want to disarm the American citizen and prevent revolt when they and their criminal friends in the big banking, Wall Street, Federal Reserve and mental health/Big Pharma fields plunge America into new lows of poverty and fascism. Because Americans are too distracted/busy, irresponsible, selfish, disorganized, ignorant and, for the most part only can see what is obviously put in front of them (and this is coming from an American,) the big sociopolitical/socioeconomic is not seen for what it is.

Answer 5

The undesirable adult males desire unarmed sufferers!!. while seconds matter calling 911 and asking the undesirable guy to attend isn't a achievable determination. greater advantageous to have a gun and not want it than to wish it and not have it!!! **Police do not look after you from crime, they frequently merely look into the crime after it happens.**

Answer 6

Principled Values in self-reliance, perseverance, hardship, hard work, responsibilities & real discipline (boot camp) is what a great society need & fight against savior complex, self-glorification, self-promotion, & arrogance delusional or merited the way the japanese huge majority, shaolin & amish society live their lives with the amish being the truest pacifist. Whether atheist or religious the path to a great society is not to be self absorbed & very dependent on others.

Not all parents discipline their children, but their children are their parents burden & responsibilities first & foremost, not society, government or anybody else's. Taking away parents rights to discipline their children properly only encourages facilitating spoiled behavior not learning that there are consequences in negative behavior.



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I suppose more stop & search laws are needed or having at least 5 armed guards/cops/national guard on patrol in every k-12 schools & malls or just move children out of schools into home schooling or tutoring the way it was a 2,000 to a 100 year ago. Video games, horror flicks, crime flicks, action flicks, sci-fi flicks, adventure flicks, war flicks, music that brags of murder or any gun crimes & hardcore xxx films influences teens with homicidal Ideals why not limit it all to E rating. Hollywood is the biggest promoter of fire-arms as a life saver necessary to fight evil: Django Sukiyaki/Unchained, dust till dawn, zero dark, saving private ryan, mission impossible, grind house, transformers etc. Perhaps hollywood should write out fire arms & replace them with spears, arrows, & tomahawk.

How about disarming military & law enforcement? What's going to keep their firearms from being stolen or sold in the black market by corrupt military, law enforcement, personnel, DA or DOJ's fast & furious program that lets suspects walk away in a sting without any intention to track & apprehend suspects letting loose fire arms waiting for them be used in criminal activity or homicides by non citizens & criminals they intended to arm.



You have laws against rape, murder, robberies, & many other crimes, why can't these laws stop criminals from committing these crimes. There are laws in driving safety yet many still don't follow. Costas reacted verbally against gun ownership when a FB player used it to commit suicide, but did not reacted verbally against car ownership when a FB player rolled out of control from speeding killing a team mate. Whether it's robbery, rape, murder, suicide, negligent reckless accidents, or abortion those who made the choice are responsible for their action no body else's, & there's nothing that can be done to ban or completely stop these from happening.



Law abiding gun owners out number murderous individuals, thugs, groups, & gangs by the millions yet they don't go out committing robberies, rape, or murder slinging or firing their guns in the air around intimidating people like thugs & gangs or the mid east & sub sahara.



Gun control dictates that only criminals should have guns. What's going to stop a home invader from raping a 12 year old locked in the bathroom closet? What's going to stop a family from being robbed by an armed burglar? What's going to stop a business owner or home owner from being looted during a disaster, a 1/2 or a 1/3rd of americans are not as principled & disciplined as the Japanese? The carr brothers would not have succeeded in sodomizing & killing 4 unarmed people if those 4 were armed with some self defense training, or better yet if those 4 were former seals, rangers, marines. Not everybody has bodyguards, henchmen, secret service to watch their their backs, families & homes 24/7.



People without or with violent tendencies who may not have committed capital crimes yet can someday commit capital crimes & there is no way anybody can predict when a crime is going to be committed unless every person in the country are monitored or spied upon by the government, plus law enforcers don't have a tele-porter device to transport them to where the criminal or criminals are within micro seconds. Even members of law enforcement & legislature commit crimes. A gun is not needed to commit capital crime, toxins, fire (esme kenny), poisons, strangulation (marsha trimble), sharp objects (nicole simpson), cars, blunt force from stones, & bats is just as effective as a gun.



James Holmes, Jarod Lee Laughner, Major Nadal Hasan should've been executed within a year. Sentencing is all that is needed when capital crimes are committed in public view with hundreds of witnesses caught in the act. Japanese generals were hanged & german insurgents faced firing squads within months after capture in WWII.

Answer 7

nope.