Why would the health care bill need access to our bank accounts?

Question

Look at page 59 of the health care bill. With all the other things that don't sound too great now they will have access to our bank accounts. Besides I thought they were supposed to use tax money to pay for health care.

Answer 1

It is on pages 58 and 59. Here is the problem I see. I will close my accounts and surmise that millions of Americans will also. This will cause a run on the banks and cause many to fail.



For all those Liberal experts on something they have not read, here it is right out of the House Bill.

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‘‘(C) be comprehensive, efficient and ro2

bust, requiring minimal augmentation by paper

3 transactions or clarification by further commu4

nications;

5 ‘‘(D) enable the real-time (or near real6

time) determination of an individual’s financial

7 responsibility at the point of service and, to the

8 extent possible, prior to service, including

9 whether the individual is eligible for a specific

10 service with a specific physician at a specific fa11

cility, which may include utilization of a ma12

chine-readable health plan beneficiary identi13

fication card;

14 ‘‘(E) enable, where feasible, near real-time

15 adjudication of claims;

16 ‘‘(F) provide for timely acknowledgment,

17 response, and status reporting applicable to any

18 electronic transaction deemed appropriate by

19 the Secretary;

20 ‘‘(G) describe all data elements (such as

21 reason and remark codes) in unambiguous

22 terms, not permit optional fields, require that

23 data elements be either required or conditioned

24 upon set values in other fields, and prohibit ad25

ditional conditions; and

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1 ‘‘(H) harmonize all common data elements

2 across administrative and clinical transaction

3 standards.

4 ‘‘(3) TIME FOR ADOPTION.—Not later than 2

5 years after the date of implementation of the X12

6 Version 5010 transaction standards implemented

7 under this part, the Secretary shall adopt standards

8 under this section.

9 ‘‘(4) REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECIFIC STAND10

ARDS.—The standards under this section shall be

11 developed, adopted and enforced so as to—

12 ‘‘(A) clarify, refine, complete, and expand,

13 as needed, the standards required under section

14 1173;

15 ‘‘(B) require paper versions of standard16

ized transactions to comply with the same

17 standards as to data content such that a fully

18 compliant, equivalent electronic transaction can

19 be populated from the data from a paper

20 version;

21 ‘‘(C) enable electronic funds transfers, in

22 order to allow automated reconciliation with the

23 related health care payment and remittance ad24

vice;

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Answer 2

Congress and the Senate have a similar health care plan already, that Obama is proposing and their not up in arms about it. As a matter of fact, they love it. The Republicans are trying to use a fear strategy, that even goes as far as seniors having to flush themselves down the toilet. Fear won't work, but competitive health care plans between private insurance and government insurance will.

Answer 3

Bash.. your source says "• Page 59: The federal government will have direct, real-time access to all individual bank accounts for electronic funds transfer. Barely True: Section 163 sets out goals for electronic health records. One of the goals is to include features that "enable electronic funds transfers, in order to allow automated reconciliation" between payment and billing. The legislative summary says the intent in the section is "to adopt standards for typical transactions" between insurance companies and health care providers. The legislation generically describes typical electronic banking transactions and does not outline any special access privileges."



which means it does say that. Or did you bother reading your own source? Didn't you read the bit where it says.. "Barely true?"

Answer 4

to pay for the universal healthcare.



Bash;

you didn't read down far enough to where it states

‘‘ (D) to enable the real-time (or near real time) determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service, prior to service, including whether the individual is eligible for a specific

service with a specific physician at a specific facility"

Answer 5

Referencing Pg 59, Sec 123 of HR 3200

This section applies to claims payers; e.g. insurers. The intent is to prevent the intentional delay of claims payments by insurers, a common practice which causes doctors, hospitals, and patients financial hardship. Ref.US Health Crisis It has nothing to do with individual citizens. It is meant to ensure timely payment, therebye preventing wasteful spending.

See page 59 of bill below

Answer 6

It's because universal health care reform will be the largest government take over in the history of the United States. They will grab your money at will.



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Answer 7

It is for automatic withdraw for co-pays and bills. Your cable company has the same thing. Are you paranoid about that?

At least the fed govt has laws restricting access and protecting privacy.

Answer 8

Well lets see...since the Government is going to be supplementing the poor...don't you suppose they oughtto make sure they ARE poor first?

Answer 9

This is so stupid. Page 59 says NO SUCH THING. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2009/jul/30/e-mail-analysis-health-bill-needs-check-/

"Section 163 sets out goals for electronic health records. One of the goals is to include features that "enable electronic funds transfers, in order to allow automated reconciliation" between payment and billing. The legislative summary says the intent in the section is "to adopt standards for typical transactions" between insurance companies and health care providers. The legislation generically describes typical electronic banking transactions and does not outline any special access privileges. "

Answer 10

To control the money we earn and spend, so they can keep us like dogs.

Answer 11

It has nothing to do with the bank accounts of individuals - jeeziz - can you guys not read?

Answer 12

Shut up

Answer 13

It doesn't. No reading comprehension skills huh?

Answer 14

They don't. This is a huge information, power, and money grab. NOTHING MORE NOTHING LESS.

Answer 15

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/08/your_bank_account_is_safe_running_down_the_latest.php



^It doesn't.

Answer 16

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