How will UKIP help the working class?

Question

How will UKIP help the working class?

Answer 1

Baaa! You're getting desperate Sheep Boy! That link is two years old. While I'm not suggesting that anyone should vote UKIP, they do provide an anti-EU agenda without the taint of racism that the BNP brings to all it touches. If there's any party lying to the working classes, it's the BNP when their leadership claims to have rejected racism and violence. Nick Griffin said: “Without the White race, nothing matters. [Other right-wing parties] believe that the answer to the race question is integration and a futile attempt to create “Black Britons”, while we affirm that non-Whites have no place here at all and will not rest until every last one has left our land” THE RUNE, ISSUE 12, 1996 "The electors of Millwall did not back a Post-Modernist Rightist Party, but what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan 'Defend Rights for Whites' with well-directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate." THE RUNE, ISSUE 11, 1996 EDIT: Fair point Sheepy! But I can never trust a man, who while holding high office in the BNP can condone racism and violence. Do you agree with these statements, or do you think Griffin has changed his beliefs?

Answer 2

UKIP will do nothing for the working class. Nigel Farage is a very wealthy former investment banker - he is only doing this because its a way to give him the ultimate ego trip (if he stayed with the Tories he would have had a low chance of becoming a back bench MP, with UKIP he could theoretically become Prime Minister) whilst indulging his xenophobia.



Do the calculations on UKIP's "flat tax rate" - anyone earning over £75,000 a year will be MILES better off.

Answer 3

First they'll pull out of Europe, then they'll, er.... they'll er.... go down the pub and have a few pints.



Well, let's look at the 2010 General Election manifesto which has a nice little warning label that says that these aren't UKIP's policies. Er...





Number one - leave the EU, surprise, surprise. Why? Well they want to be able to use UK money to save post offices, car manufacturers and other such failing businesses, because, well, capitalism sucks, so they'll just nationalize everything, either that or give loads of money to rich people who don't know much about business, either way it'll be a fail.



Number two - leave the EU and save money. Kind of shoddy maths though. To simply say we'll save x amount of money is ridiculous, this isn't GCSE maths by the way, this is massive economics that even the best economists struggle to understand. But hey, UKIP supposedly are the smartest.



Number three - freedom of choice. That is, once UKIP have left the EU, and not before they have left. They want lots of local power, this is a small party mentality, and any party that is close to getting power would NEVER give power away like this. But UKIP stood no chance in 2010 so they could say what they like.



And that's just the intro.



To answer the question about the working class, they want to raise the level that you pay tax to get those off minimum wage from paying taxes.



In contrast they want a flat tax. Which will mean anyone earning over minimum wage, but under about 50,000 a year will be hammered by higher taxes. Flat tax is a right wing policy that the rich support for a reason. Their tax goes down from 50% to 25% and the poorer people's goes up from half this up to 25%. It's not fair.



Replace VAT with LST, basically swapping one thing for another. The difference, they claim, is the councils will get some of this money. As if the councils don't already get given money by Westminster in the first place. Doesn't say whether this LST will be higher or lower though. The right tend to go for higher, because it punishes the poor more, they have to pay a higher % of their wages on buying things.



Abolish inheritance tax. This is hugely popular with the rich, because they generally have more to pass on. The poor don't pay inheritance tax on almost all they pass on, but the rich pay a lot.



They'd increase manufacturing, getting people doing jobs they probably don't want, and being uncompetitive with cheaper labour in foreign countries, so you'll have to pay more in taxes to back up private enterprise instead of getting people doing realistic jobs.



Also build prisons, nuclear power plants, and spend loads on defence, so they can get even more taxes from you. Instead of focusing on the real issues, like trying to stop crime through education etc, they'd just stick the poor in prison. 40% extra on defence. The question is why when they want to withdraw from EU operations. They want to do more for NATO, but withdraw from Afghanistan. A contradiction in terms and show how small parties can basically get away with writing ANYTHING.



Have school vouchers. Yeah, this is a great one for the poor man. So the rich send their kids to PRIVATE SCHOOLS, well, we'll have to give them a voucher too. So the rich get given money for sending their kids to school, while the poor who basically get free education will continue to get free education.

They call this CHOICE. Yes, choice for the rich to spend more money.



They want to replace teacher training with on the job training. Read this policy as "we don't know what teacher training is", a PGCE will be 6 months teaching in schools, and a couple of months in university learning about how to teach.



Allow schools to choose which pupils they get. Yeah, hey, parent, give up 500 quid and you can get into our school. So the poor will have poor schools, and the middle class will have middle class schools and the rich will continue with their private schools but get state money for it.



Oh, well, we can see that the poor will get about the same as they get from the Tories.



Sweet FA!!!!



Kick out lots of immigrants and make life hard for British people living in Spain, Greece, Cyprus etc, who'd have to come back because they wouldn't be welcome there any more.

Answer 4

They won't. UKIP are mostly puce faced, rural upper class, rich elderly disaffected Tories. The only message UKIP has to send to the working class is: "Get orf moi land".



Basically UKIP have nothing to say about the important issues, it's just a bunch of NIMBY Little Englanders that mostly attracts a protest vote. The founder of UKIP, Alan Sked, left because of this - he notably said that, at a time when the UK was facing the UK's biggest economic crisis since WWII, UKIP's flagship policy was to ban an item of clothing (the burka). That's tabloid nonsense, not the sign of a serious political party, and I can understand why Sked left.



Pretty much every policy of UKIP's will massively favour the 1% at the expense of the 99%.



And nothing sums up UKIP more than their policy of supposedly "saving" the countryside. This translates to: "Get orf moi land. I want to keep house prices unaffordably high so I don't have to live next to you, you pleb."

Answer 5

Their taxation system will increase taxes paid by all working-class people; while cutting taxes paid by the very wealthy!



Taking the UK out of the EU will destroy millions of UK jobs: Regardless of any fictitious figures that UKIP has generated for their election campaign!



These two aspects alone will significantly harm all working people in the UK!



I genuinely fear their intentions for pensioners and the disabled!



UKIP are like all Right-wing parties: They say only that which they believe will win votes!





The immigration issue is a smokescreen, designed to prevent humanity from seeing that capitalism doesn't work anymore!

Answer 6

They wouldn't help the working class if they were in power - they're the authentic 'Nasty Party' the Conservatives have tried to distance themselves from. A look at their 2010 manifesto says everything.



Their proposal for a 31% flat tax would disproportionately place a greater tax burden on working and middle class Britons whilst allowing the rich to get ridiculously wealthy (as if they don't have enough, already!), nor would cutting spending to 1997 levels so that public services would be in as great decline as they were under the Thatcher/Major years - well below the European average - be beneficial to the working class in anyway.



The white working class electorate who vote for them are a misguided and ultimately disenfranchised demographic, who were marginalised in the wake of New Labour and the continued promotion of Monetarist economic policy. They're told immigrants (who are hugely beneficial in filling the skills gap we have - they're not fraudsters (if you want a source for this, ask me on Additional Information)) are taking their jobs and the EU hurts small businesses, even though 87% of small businesses export to the European Union.

Answer 7

The Flat rate tax will, for the first time, make millionaires like Blair, Carr, Rooney etc pay the same % as Joe Public, because all the exemptions and dodges will disappear. Can yo imagine the look on Blair, Carr and Rooney's faces as they have to cough up more than 3% tax?!



They will stop HS2, saving the UK countryside, saving billions of £s - we don't know how many billions because the paving Bill says 'unlimited', the National Audit Office says £50 billion cost, so far, and that there is no business case - meaning less cuts and still reducing the deficit and reducing the debt, thereby reducing the need for increased tax revenue and cuts.



Stopping paying the EU £15 billion a year, and, after Cameron's 'great victory' on the EU budget, the extra £770 million demanded this year. Again, reducing borrowing and leading to a reduction in tax demands and cuts.



Stopping overseas aid, saving £9billion a year, again reducing the need for tax increases and cuts.



Negotiating bi-lateral trade agreements with the growing world economies, forbidden by the EU, allowing trade growth -more jobs - instead of being tied to the economic basket case that is the EU.



Allow the expansion of the greatest state engine for social mobility and promoting meritocracy, rather than the Champagne Socialist and Eton Old boys Clubs to get and keep the good futures for their mates and family, namely Grammar Schools.



To make Govt purchasing look in the first instance at UK Companies with social factors, such as employment taken into account, rather than having to buy, as with cross rail, German trains because the cost was cheaper, and UK jobs were lost.



The deficit cut by £24 billion a year, without cuts, £50 billion not needed to be borrowed to finance HS2, increased tax revenue from the flat tax, better chances for workers children.



These are just a few of the ways they can cut costs, thereby cutting Govt spending, reducing borrowing, increasing revenue, reducing the need for cuts, helping to increase employment, helping the economy grow and reducing the burden on the working person.



For a look at what they propose go to:



http://www.ukip.org/

Answer 8

Well, their flat tax proposals won't help - a consolidated rate of 31%, as envisaged, will leave most working people much worse off, while benefiting millionaires.

Nor will their 'hire and fire' employment law model, or withdrawal from the EU social chapter, which enshrines key employment law rights.



By the way, the orang utans and orcs baying that Ukip would 'get rid of immigrants' are of course wrong - they propose to do no such thing in respect of anyone already here.



So no, I don't think anyone living an average life in this country could expect to benefit in any way from voting for the chain-smoking, boozing pinstriped Toad of Toad Hall and his party of bigoted loons.

Answer 9

They won't....UKIP are a right wing group, their policies are just more extreme versions of Conservative ones. If you vote UKIP next election and expect to be "helped"...you might get a nasty shock.



That is why most other working class people vote for Socialists like Labour.

Answer 10

They won't, quite the opposite in fact. Pulling out of the EU will get rid of many workers rights and leave them open to full scale abuse from their employers.

Pulling out of the EU will no doubt mean that many businesses in this country would relocate. I also think our exports would suffer as EU countries would prefer to deal with EU countries and would only buy goods from us if they had to.

As for UKIP tax policies, they are totally insane and unworkable. It is estimated that if they were implemented that it would leave a £120BN black hole that would need filling from somewhere. It would be impossible to raise this from normal public services alone. The only way they could get anything like the money they would need to raise this is by hitting the NHS and pensions, along with more welfare cuts.

DON'T be fooled by Farage and UKIP, they ARE a right wing Tory party and the UKIP puppets on here will never convince me otherwise.

Answer 11

Nothing, they want us to have a flat tax rate which means those earning very little will pay the same tax as those earning a lot, it's ridiculous. Their policies on anything other than immigration and the EU are really flimsy.

Answer 12

The closest thing they'll do to helping the working class is failing to win the election.

Answer 13

They will:

Cut your taxes considerably by increasing the tax free allowance to £16,000

Prevent immigrants from undercutting your wages

Cut indirect taxes on things like VAT and alcohol duties so that things become more affordable

Answer 14

Well hopefully they will

re-instil our love of our

country & culture that has

been slowly eroded due to

the excessive immigration.

Allowed by the weak & pro Euro

political parties that DO NOT

represent BRITAIN !!.



Oh i see we have a lot of the

anti UKIP immigrants here !,

Answer 15

By leaving the wasteful and corrupt EU.......



Trade and therefore our economy will be solely in the hands of our government.......and as bad they can be, they are infinitely more capable than the European criminals and idiots in Brussels.....

Answer 16

By opposing wasting UK resources on irresponsible and bankrupt Greece, Portugal and Spain.



THose resources can be better used in UK to help British working class.

Answer 17

By getting rid of all those damn immigrants of course! Oh no, wait, that won't actually help the working class. It won't help anyone. They talk the talk but really they're just racists and homophobes; that's their whole agenda.

Answer 18

They won't, actually many employee's rights are EU rules so it will be worse.

Answer 19

Britain would have an extra £300BILLION to spend every year.