Question:
Why Govt has not been banning the Traitor's Hurriyat Conference of J&K?
mehtaap56
2010-09-05 00:38:04 UTC
Hurriyat's Geelani is a mouthpiece of the separatists.In spite of his anti India statements,Why Govt refrains to arrest him and his companions?
Eighteen answers:
Appu A
2010-09-05 03:50:17 UTC
When geelani was hospitalised in mumbai, it was a doctor from kashmiri pundits family, who cured him.

He must be driven out of kashmir. he is the sole reason for the present problem.

But, dnt expect anything from this spinelesss govt.

PM saying "INDEPENDENCE FOR KASHMIR" is the extreme cowardice.



First, article 370 must be removed, which was one of nehru's himalayan blunders in kashmir problem.

Take iron hand by bringing army in and arrest all separatists.

People who are provoked by these people will calm down and the peace will return to the valley.

China is refusing visa to our men and saying he is from disputed territory. why make it a disputed territory? remove all special status and include the whole of kashmir to india. The thing this govt will never do.
fromong
2016-11-09 10:33:41 UTC
Hurriyat Conference
anonymous
2010-09-06 10:41:07 UTC
MS Believe in Ek Oamkar like IDs only can compare RSS with Geelani company.He is a hard core INC activist.He can't face the truth.His definitions can't convince anyone.His rant is useless.Other rant master is Zam Zam.How you can tolerate those stupids.Please ban them.

It is well known fact that directly or indirectly ,there is INC is a reason behind every terrorist activity in India.They crushed Sikh militancy,though that too was a creation of INC itself,because Sikhs were not it's vote bank.Kashmir problem is a result of their hunger of power.Then they made it international and involved UN unnecessarily.

Muslim vote bank policy can't allow them to punish the anti national terrorists.
anonymous
2010-09-06 23:55:30 UTC
Regarding the spread of fundamentalists what MS (- believes in voilence) have to say about the arrest of Md. Madani in Bangalore, Afzal Guru, Fakrudeen Ali Ahmed (accused in 1998 Coimbatore blasts), Abu Salem( Azamgarh district in Uttar Pradesh) ????
anonymous
2010-09-05 07:16:40 UTC
INC/Nehru had created J&K problem to maintain there unethical relations with Sheikh Abbullah and Lady Mountbatten.Making girlfriends happy at the cost of national interest is their hierarchical hobby.Now India has been paying for the love of Rajeev Gandhi.

Nehru-Gandhis are th curses for India.

They know to create the problems. Solution is not in their capability.
Polestaraura
2010-09-05 02:53:34 UTC
There might be two reasons for not banning the organization.First, Government is scared of Pakistan & China's joint capabilities.Secondly, Government may like to strengthen the minority vote-bank.Don't you see what is happening in India these days?Most of the Political parties have been wooing a particular religious minority community in India which has already outnumbered the majority community in Pakistan.Have you ever heard about the same attitude of Pakistan Government towards the minority communities there?
anonymous
2010-09-08 22:36:54 UTC
This is what the Pakistan sponsored Hurriyat did to the nationalists present in kashmir but still it isn't banned coz the Govt does't have courage to fight these anti nationals.





(Part 1)

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/yt-xzLmq5kd9ZQ/and_the_world_remained_silent_part_1_on_kashmiri_pandits/





(Part2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5JWTQlILW8





@Zam Zam

Terrorists aren't allowed in this forum
?
2010-09-06 23:22:53 UTC
Because the ban will have to continue with VHP RSS BD SS MNS and the like...
?
2010-09-06 05:09:29 UTC
You are right. It must be banned. May it is show off by congress led govt. to world that how much democratic we are in Kashmir.



Kashmir is a document written by God to show what possibly can go wrong if this minority become majority in any state.
anonymous
2010-09-09 02:55:25 UTC
GO HAVE A good week ends fluck with gaandui baba and the traitors will go awayt
pranay
2010-09-05 05:00:16 UTC
If the central govt.arrests him,the congress may lose the vote of muslims,afterall congress

is political party,more interested in remaining in power,quite less interested in nation's

good.



All cowardish acts,non-action against proven traitors support this thought.
rajendra s
2010-09-05 03:00:49 UTC
India has fundamental rights for its citizen and in it they have freedom of speech and expression. It is not like any other huriyat's like countries.“India is a country of religious diversity and religious tolerance”, this is a fact. This is established by custom, & tradition, further supported by law. Preamble to the Constitution of India proclaimed India a "sovereign socialist secular democratic republic". The word secular was added into the Preamble by the Forty-second Amendment Act of 1976. It mandates equal treatment and tolerance of all religions. India does not have an official state religion; it enshrines the right to practice, preach, and propagate any religion. No religious instruction should impart in government-supported schools. Supreme Court of India said in a ruling that secularism is an integral tenet of the Constitution. The right to freedom of religion is a fundamental right of every citizen of India.
anonymous
2010-09-06 10:10:07 UTC
I can't ban them.

They are the symbol of my democracy.

You should know the politics to rule.Why your party has been sitting in opposition benches? patriotism can't compete with vote bank politics.
therugsquad
2010-09-05 00:40:34 UTC
freedom of speech, and arresting a small nuisance like him will give him the exposure he needs and more followers hence make the problem much bigger in future.
arvindkul
2010-09-10 23:26:59 UTC
probably to show human right activisit that there is right to speech.
anonymous
2010-09-05 22:13:30 UTC
dont expect sane, logical, self-esteemed and working solutions from a pseudo secular, coward and corrupt government
MS - Believe in Ek Oankaar
2010-09-05 06:33:40 UTC
Exactly same reason why Government of India is not banning traitors like RSS, VHP, Bajarang Dal, etc. thought they are named in maximum riots in India.



Edit, and how about you? You are on the forum with set agenda and that agenda is to use multiple faces to spread hatred among various religions, spread false news, you are true member of extremist organization that is curse on India. You have no answer to my comments, that is why you start making person allegations not only with your main face but with proxies. Typical RSS member, backstabbing is your job, how much training have you been given by RSS for that?



You will be given appropriate answer for your every question, be assured. You make one personal comments, and receive 10 personal answers for that. No communal maroons are spared.



@Appu A. actually your childish comments don't deserve my time, but just to pacify a child, what Congressies are world has been seeing in past 63 years and will see for many more decades. If you think that the bunch of these communal maroons are smart and millions who vote for Congress are idiots and you should decide what you are not me.



Edit: One more peace of lie. Look at this lie and my copy and paste and tell me who is right?



http://rssonnet.org/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10&Itemid=27



Who can become a member of RSS?

Any Hindu male can become member of RSS.



Why are you making fool of yourself? Muslims attending Shakha? They can't even join RSS.



Edit again: You already have my answer, when government could not ban RSS, VHP, Bajarang DAL then why are you crying over Hurriyat Conference? When government could not arrest Ashok Singhal, Bal Thakare, and Praveen Togadiya then why are you crying over Geelani? Talk about the former then later. Hurriyat Conf and Geelani are limited to JK and others that I mentioned are spread over India, so who are more dangerous traitors to India? These right wing extremist groups are more dangouraous than Hurriyat and Geelani.



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@@@Zam Zam, stop fooling around, and read the new paper that you may like:



http://www.dawn.com/2004/08/05/op.htm#1



"The Kashmir issue was taken to the UN by India in January, 1948 and remained active in the UN Security Council till the late fifties The Indian complaint was filed under Chapter VI of the UN Charter and not under Chapter VII, which requires mandatory enforcement of the UN Security Council's decisions. "



"Our people need to understand that none of the UN Security Council resolutions on Kashmir was adopted under Chapter VII of the UN Charter. There is no mandatory enforceability of those decisions, now reduced merely to be part of UN's voluminous archives"



"Out of total 191 UN members, only 88 (less than 50 per cent) voted in favour of the resolution. The overwhelming majority of member states, including four permanent members of the Security Council (and the self-avowed champions of freedom and democracy), abstained while a large number of countries deliberately absented themselves only because the resolution was viewed largely in the context of India-Pakistan dispute over Kashmir. "



Which resolution are you talking about? That does not have any mandate? That was not voted by maximum members? That cannot be enforced? That was not obeyed by Pakistan and now crying over that? Listen, we may fight internally over Congress and BJP but we are united over one single point that from Kashmir to Kanyakumari India is one and no external forces can divide us.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1399992/A-brief-history-of-the-Kashmir-conflict.html



"India, having taken the issue to the UN, was confident of winning a plebiscite, since the most influential Kashmiri mass leader, Sheikh Abdullah, was firmly on its side. An emergency government was formed on October 30, 1948 with Sheikh Abdullah as the Prime Minister.



Pakistan ignored the UN mandate and continued fighting, holding on to the portion of Kashmir under its control."
anonymous
2010-09-05 22:40:05 UTC
Because Kashmir IS NOT A PART OF INDIA, being a DISPUTED TERRITORY. It is a FOREIGN LAND(says UNSC Resolutions dated 21 st April, 1948 till "free & fair" PLEBISCITE is held under its auspices, the UNEQUIVOCAL i.e., IRREPLACEABLE the ONLY solution of the problem). So, INDIA HAS NO LEGAL AUTHORITY on the land of Kashmir. ILLEGAL OCCUPATION BY MILITARY FORCE DOES NOT SECURE LEGITIMACY. So, NO INDIAN RULE IS APPLICABLE THERE. Even if India takes any such decision, that is like imposing Indian rule ILLEGALLY on any foreign land like NEPAL, Bhutan or Sri Lanka,... etc.

Keeping in view of abovementioned LEGAL REALITIES, people of Kashmir DO NOT RECOGNISE INDIAN AUTHORITIES & because of that THEY HAVE NOT GIVEN ANY TAX TO GOVT. OF INDIA SINCE 1990 & RIGHTLY too.

Just by banning any organisation can not hinder its well planned actions, FREEDOM STRUGGLE & 100 % PUBLIC SUPPORT. Syed Ali Shah Gilani is PERFECT in LEGAL UNDERSTANDING on Kashmir DISPUTE, undoubtedly.



I've visited every point of Kashmir several times without any security cover & know the ground reality, none of Indian leaders or journalists(not even Barkha Dutt) will ever dare to think even. I've talked to > 1,50,000 people in last 5 years. None likes India.

Syed ali Shah Gilani of Hurriyat(means 'freedom') Conference is not a traitor, rather, he is the true repesentative of Kashmir the VOICE OF KASHMIR. actually, Indians are traitor of Kashmir, the disputed territory, as per UN Charter.



BANNING ANY ORGANISATION DOES NOT STOP MASS, SPONTANEOUS, LEGITIMATE MOVEMENT AT ALL. Ban was there but it was LIFTED in 1993, seeing 100 % support.



EDIT : I'm NOT a Pakistani & my name is Zam Zam & NOT Zim Zim. Your statement about me shows your judgement, calibre & IQ level. You may falsely say you have Kashmiri friends but I challenge you to visit any part of Kashmir without govt security & air such communal hatred based views. Neither you nor any Indian leader or journalist can visit beyong Bandipur like Gurais, Bangush Valley, tosh Maidan, Khadaniyar, Chhitkari, Konan Poshpora, Trehgam & inside forest settlements of Gujjars from Gulmarg-Khilanmarg area to any place near LOC, I've visited.

Dogra Monarchy ended on 15 th March, 1946, after completion of 100 year of infamous & inhuman Amritsat Treaty. No self imposed extension is either valid or exists on paper. Maharaja NEVER signed the instrument of accession EVEN UNDER DURESS while fleeing in night's darkness, after losing people's support to save live, far away from the capital, proved by British Records, published in 14 volumes in 1997 after 50 year of secrecy. Read books of Prof Alastair Lamb, Stanley Wolpert & Patrick French too. My survey is MOST ACCURATE b coz I have neither language problem nor other problems like you that you can NEVER visit there. Before my survey, the international CSDS survey showed that 87 % people of the valley, Poonchh, Mendhar, Rajauri, Doda, Kishtwar, Kargil, Drass, Nubra , Zanskar & all non-Hindus of Jammu & Kathua too DO NOT LIKE INDIA. If you air such your views, you're sure to be cut into 5000 pieces within 5 minutes in Kashmir.

If Mumbai city of India having 1.8 crore people gets even 1 lakh troops deployed, NO bundh(strike) called by Shiv Sena will ever get success which is forced one but Kashmir has > 1 million(10 lakh) troops which announces loudly on lounspekers to defy strike called by Hurriyat Conference as they will back people but strike is 100 % successful with full obedience b coz PEOPLE ARE AGAINST INDIAN MASSIVE ARMY & ARE IN FAVOUR OF HURRIYAT. Who can refute that transparent fact observed every year on 13 th July, 15 th August, 27 th October(all historical BLACK DAYS for Kashmiris) & other days. People HATE INDIA & her army, the looter, rapist, oppressor, suppressor, repressor victimiser, subjugator, bludgeoner into submission & that too in the DIPUTED zone. If India & army has people's support why has that been given unaccountable INHUMAN sweeping powers like AFSPA, PSA & DBA, all DICTATORIAL , worse than Hitler rule, all COLONIALIST trick s ?????? The fact is, people's views are crystal clear. People will not sacrifice 7 lakh lives for making a fun as you mention, all HUMBUG, a liar's contention. Improve your personality removing BIAS & COMMUNALISM. I've not visited Pakistan but there is NO hutment colony, no slum, no beggar, & average people are taller, stronger , healthier & much better off. In Bihar, Jharkhand, Chhattisgarh, AP & Orissa, people dig heaps of garbage to get sum rotten eatables. If one vomits, other starts taking that. In Mumbai 80 lakh people live in dirty hutment slums having 3 tier small cots inside, I've seen everywhere there.

There is NOTHING on PAPER to prove that Bhutto agreed in Simla. Moreover, He was NOT a representative of Kashmiris. As per UN Charter & UNSC Resolutions, ONLY PEOPLE of Kashmir will decide their future, being MOST IMPORTANT PARTY & NOT outsiders like India or Pakistan. UN Charter & International Law say that in any decision taken by outsider nations about any disputed territory( like Kashmir) CAN NOT BE IMPOSED on people, who have right to reject & are NOT BOUND TO ACCEPT. So, Kashmir's future is YET TO BE DECIDED & that too by

PEOPLE ONLY,

none else,

NO OUTSIDER.

Moreover, UN Charter no. 103, says, any resolution passed within UN Security Council CAN NOT be cancelled by any means OUTSIDe UNSC. Learn more & improve IQ.


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