Question:
Is the Democrats intention for the Health Care Bill simply another method of taxing?
rw113
2010-02-09 08:02:00 UTC
In reviewing the Health Care issues it became obvious that the HMO (Manages Care) experiment was a massive failure. It created a middle man bureaucracy, which needed to make a profit. Three primary methods were used: 1. Raise Premiums; 2. Pay Health Care Professionals less for their Services/Goods; and 3. Limit/Control what services were available. Thus, everyone agrees that the current system is out of whack, and needs control - but what should it be?

It appears "managed care" [HMO, PPO, etc.] was an experiment, initially for those on welfare, to prevent fraud by a few in the Health Care industry. I review reveals that prior to managed care: 1. The costs of premiums were less; 2. We had a fees for Services System, where the Health Care Professional and Patients decided what services were best, and overall, better services were available to the insured; 3. Health Care Professionals were better compensated for each service they provided (and this does not even take into consideration inflation)

Since Managed Care [HMO] proved to be such a massive failure, why is there such a push by Democrats to impose it on all people, and make it mandatory? Why not declare it the major failed experiment it was, and return to a good foundation of fees for services insurance and build from there?

I then heard some Clips from Obama, emphasizing that single payer may not be reachable yet. But he wanted to pass bills in the step to get there. It appeared that the true issue became - Let the Government be the Middle Man Bureaucracy - the entity that gets all the profits for Health Care. Isn't this just wanting another forum for taxation? If the Government can - raise premiums, low payments to Health Care, and limit services to the Public - haven't they just came up with a way to take more money from people in the future, without the need for Congressional Approval. Future rates (tax) for Health Care can simply be administratively increased, in the future.

What do you think. Do they care about Health Care, or simply looking for another tax revenue source?
Eighteen answers:
tribeca_belle
2010-02-09 08:17:10 UTC
No. In fact the major criticism of the proposals is the cost, not profits for the government. The proposed health care reform is an effort to address several major problems in our health care system that are just getting worse. Premiums continue to rise, millions have no health care coverage, others are losing coverage, people with pre-existing conditions cannot obtain coverage, many are underinsured, those with insurance are paying unnecessarily high costs to cover those who can’t pay their medical bills, etc.



Every other major developed country has universal health care. There is absolutely no good reason why this country can’t institute reforms to provide health care coverage for our own population.



Your analysis of HMOs does not address the current issues or the current proposals. It also does not take into account the actual experiences of other developed countries with universal health care.
Kiran C
2010-02-09 08:20:27 UTC
Your history of how US health care insurance evolved is incorrect. HMO have existed since the 1970s. They take off in the 1990s in response to fast rising health care costs caused by the fee for service system. For a short period, the costs where contained but push back from patients, doctors, and hospitals stopped that.



The Senate health care bill is nothing like that you describe. Yes, you are required to buy your own insurance but you choose what insurance to buy. Both republicans and democrats agree that insurance should have some level of minimum benefits.



I care about Health Care. That is why we should demand the Senate health care bill be passed.
2016-10-01 08:55:46 UTC
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i_was_myself
2010-02-09 08:07:52 UTC
The problem is that people can't afford the surgeries now. People also couldn't afford most surgeries before managed care. It is called insurance. It has a role, one that republicans are vigorously defending.



My opinion is it would be great to get rid of managed care. I would rather have everyone in the US contribute the same amount and everyone get an allotment of health care benefits. But republicans want HMOs to exist so they kill any universal health care plan that does away with a private entity.
2010-02-09 08:32:12 UTC
No, its a power grab for big pharma and the eugenics lobby. It's more about control than anything else.



These people already have more money than they could ever use. Money only valuable to them insofar as it can be used to purchase influence and get legislation like this passed.



Greed is like the grease on the wheels, but the people at the controls are not interested in more money. They are motivated by other desires.
Tom
2010-02-09 16:10:32 UTC
You make some great points...I also think the answer is in the fee for service system.
slykitty62
2010-02-09 08:08:09 UTC
Yes, but out of the deal, you get affordable health insurance. Yes, I think they do care about Health Care and I do think because they aren't in it for profit, costs would come down.
p h
2010-02-09 08:07:26 UTC
No, it is more a way to remove the wealth of Americans. They want to control the money and that would certainly break most of us. That and cap and trade will have the average American living without utilities turned on in their homes.
☠ APM ☠
2010-02-09 08:06:23 UTC
Yes, by controlling 1/6th of our economy and only authorizing 10 thousand a year per household on healthcare.
justine 2
2010-02-09 08:07:03 UTC
Yes beware the leftist who brings lies disguised as gifts . ---------------FDR and the Democrats pushed the Federal Withholding TAX as a means for patriotic Americans to fund the WAR with the promise to rescind it after the War was over . I ask you did they ?
2010-02-09 08:05:50 UTC
The health care bill is nothing more than a power grab. Anyone who believes anything else has been eating too many Twinkies.
2010-02-09 08:07:42 UTC
You got it nothing more. And they have a few more taxing proposition's for you also. Cap and Trade, Climate Change, Luxury tax, Vat tax, These vehicles for taxation will be introduced on Obama watch.
The emperor has no clothes
2010-02-09 08:07:45 UTC
Taxes are a by product. The real objective is control.
2010-02-09 08:06:02 UTC
I've tried to comprehend the bills and have been unsuccessful.
2010-02-09 08:07:48 UTC
It is government takeover pure and simple.
Brandon ♥s Baby Isaac
2010-02-09 08:07:46 UTC
Simply? No.
2010-02-09 08:07:21 UTC
YUP... but then - everyone with a BRAIN knows it.
BShaps
2010-02-09 08:06:07 UTC
Another propaganda tangent.


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