Question:
Does brutality win over civility every time?
2009-04-26 11:38:13 UTC
Liberals say torture is unacceptable and immoral, and that America needs to be a frontrunner for human rights, democracy and fair treatment of people. They don't believe in punishing kids in schools, and they don't believe in the death penalty.

This is unacceptable. Yet, in almost all these cases, when you take away the right for our own people to be brutal, you allow the enemy to take control and exact their brutality on us. Putting Iraqi terrorists in pyramids suddenly makes US prison guards accountable even for some slight mistreatment of the prisoners. They can't even fight back for fear of losing their job and going to prison. There is no death penalty, so criminals have nothing to fear or deter them from their crimes. These people are put in prisons for life, and turn into some of the most dangerous inmates because they have NOTHING TO LOSE. That makes a lot of sense huh? Children are not allowed to be disciplined in school. So what do they do? They bully each other and take advantage of the teachers and administrators and don't learn. Generation after generation of kids are growing up stupid because of this.

Why do liberals think their way is right? Brutality wins over cowardice and civility every time. If people aren't scared of you, then they see it as a weakness and take advantage of you. That's something most managers and leaders learn their first days on the job. Most of the anti-torture, anti-death penalty, pro-human rights assholes don't have jobs where they have to manage people. They just live their entire, privileged lives believing they are smarter and superior than the average bear, partially thanks to their parents.

When will common sense return to America?
Eighteen answers:
2009-04-26 11:48:20 UTC
I get your point Barracuda, tho I take exception to you presuming to speak for my conscience and I :-p Having said that, I don't think using restraint until it's necessary is the same as being weak, Those 3 dead Pirates would probably agree.
2009-04-26 11:56:54 UTC
"They don't believe in punishing kids in schools, and they don't believe in the death penalty."



I don't believe that children should be physically disciplined in public schools. I have no problem with other forms of punishment. If you want to send your kids to a private school that physically disciplines them, feel free.



I do believe in the death penalty for certain horrendous types of murders.



"Putting Iraqi terrorists in pyramids suddenly makes US prison guards accountable even for some slight mistreatment of the prisoners."



Prison guards should be accountable for mistreatment of prisoners. It has nothing to do with Iraq. Prison guards aren't allowed to mistreat prisoners. It is against the rules.



"These people are put in prisons for life, and turn into some of the most dangerous inmates because they have NOTHING TO LOSE. "



And how does mistreating them help that situation? Prisoners who are a constant problem end up in administrative units. They live in little tiny cells with nothing but a pair of skivvies. This is not mistreatment. They made it necessary by being a threat to themselves and other inmates. Making them get naked and do gay stuff IS mistreatment.



"Why do liberals think their way is right? Brutality wins over cowardice and civility every time."



If that was true then Nazi Germany should have won WWII, I couldn't disagree with you more. You have it bass ackwards. You equate cowardice to civility, I equate it with brutality.



"When will common sense return to America?"



Please list all the famous incidences of torture of enemy combatants from our history. Your "common sense" is some of the most twisted situational ethics reasoning that I have ever read.
2009-04-26 11:51:26 UTC
There is a huge difference between punishment and torture---and I do agree with Obama that torture is not approbiate. If someone does not talk when interrogated--does it really make sense to torture this person to get the answer we WANT? You cannot compare this with punishing school children--and as a parent I object to any teacher being permitted to physically punish my child--that is not their job--their job is to teach. It is not my job to determine how far the government can go to get information--however, there is such thing as the Geneva convention which states that prisoners of war should be treated humane.
John D "Your ad here"
2009-04-26 11:43:55 UTC
You have an odd definition of "winning".



You also made some misstatements; "There is no death penalty ... children are not allowed to be disciplined in school".



Many states have a death penalty, and children are disciplined in school. They're just not paddled and whacked with rulers any more.



Have you ever asked yourself why you're such a big fan of brutality?
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2016-10-18 07:25:57 UTC
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dingobluefoot
2009-04-26 11:42:31 UTC
A show of strength is much different from brutality. We have let ourselves become weak in some insane drive to be politically and socially correct.



I'm afraid that common sense packed it's bag for a looooong trip away from America.
2009-04-26 11:52:39 UTC
Sounds to me like we need to ban christianity...where else does all this love thy neighbor and turn the other cheek wimp crap come from?

Like we need a religion of "peace" during a time when we really need a religion which promotes brutality and war.



Meek shall inherit the earth...what kind of a weak willed coward would actually believe in that crap? Even worse, what kind of a person would want to teach that weakness to our kids?



Certainly you agree that it is time for Americans to burn the bibles and churches and start torturing and killing these pacifist christians so that we can purge American society of this love and mercy bs before the christians turn all of our children into namby pamby little sissy girls who drop to their knees and mumble words to the jesus to save them rather than standing up with a gun and shooting someone to death.



And I agree...time for common sense to return to America by purging this country of any idiots who believe in talking snakes and virgins getting pregnant.



If you are truly serious about ensuring that future generations of Americans are not turned into little jesus freak limp wristed wimps then certainly you will join with me in a 21st century crusade to eliminate any and all religions that promote peace and civility...yes???
2009-04-26 11:48:50 UTC
I agree. Some are followers, some are leaders. BO is too soft on crime. Some parents expect the school system to teach their kids morals because they have none at home.

Anyone who cant be a law abiding citizen should have their a** kicked...goes for unruly kids too....
John
2009-04-26 11:51:03 UTC
Yes.



When dealing with terrorist bullies who leveled an unprovoked attack on our U.S. homeland, the only thing they understand is fear and intimidation.



Historically appeasement has never worked to keep the free world free.
robert f
2009-04-26 11:43:56 UTC
Ask one question at a time and I would be glad to answer. I don't feel like writing an essay right now
James P
2009-04-26 11:44:15 UTC
First I don't equate civility with cowardice. You can be strong and kind. Who wins from brutality? I find the whole premise absurd
Innocent
2009-04-26 11:43:46 UTC
Does brutality win over civility every time?



Only when civility has run a muck.
2009-04-26 11:44:24 UTC
Your partng shot:

When will common sense return to America?



If you are talking about your kind of 'common sense', hopefully, NEVER!



BTW, how is the weather in Hannity's America?
2009-04-26 11:43:28 UTC
My goodness that was quite a rant. At our company, our managers treat people below them with respect and dignity. Not with fear. Why can't we treat people the way you want treated to begin with?
monkey12
2009-04-26 11:45:19 UTC
That wasn't a question that you wanted someone to answer for you..you already have the answer..thanks for letting us know your opinion.
2009-04-26 11:45:17 UTC
You re 100% correct of course.Watch the libs try to debate you.with stupid arguments.
Seldon Surak
2009-04-26 11:45:52 UTC
USUALLY, UNLESS CIVILITY PICKS UP A GUN
2009-04-26 11:42:25 UTC
As history has proven, Yes!!!!!


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