Question:
Is the failure of our Education System another example of the failure of Liberalism?
2008-07-01 16:09:37 UTC
Considering that Liberals have saturated the American Education System?
26 answers:
2008-07-01 16:19:10 UTC
Last time I checked, our education system was governed by No Child Left Behind, the success (or lack thereof) we can lay directly at Bush's feet.
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2008-07-01 16:25:35 UTC
Yes, I do. The federal government should not be handling education at all. It should be at the state level that these decisions are made. We need to concentrate more on the basics, reading, writing and arithmetic.



Yes, I have a conservative viewpoint on it, but I truly believe in education. I was a faculty assistant and tutor in college. I had more problems retaining students just out of high school than other individuals who had not attended a school in 10 or more years because they relied on their calculators and spell checkers. It was interesting to read papers that were spelled correctly, but had the incorrect homonym used.



I do believe, as well that music and art are important, but not when it overwhelms the basics. I played four different instruments through school and I believe it helped me in the long run.



Be sure to read the associated links in the article I linked below. There is an interesting video on how some of the math is being taught in some districts now.
abe frohman
2008-07-01 16:29:40 UTC
I think the poster is asking whether Federal gov't involvement has created the failure of our educational system. Too bad Reagan was not able reverse yet another horrific Carter's policy. He correctly understood that education is best left up to local overview and administration.



"Reagan’s ABCs



by Dan Lips



During the 1980 presidential campaign, Ronald Reagan dubbed the fledgling Department of Education "President Carter's new bureaucratic boondoggle." Two decades and billions of dollars later, Reagan's assessment holds true.



Under the department's watch, the American education system has continued to slouch toward utter failure. Test scores show that one out of three fourth graders can't read. A significant achievement gap between the races still exists. Meanwhile, a recent audit of the department's records found that nearly a half billion dollars of taxpayer funds intended to support education were either stolen or "missing."



More important, Reagan understood the proper role of the federal government in education: "Education is the principal responsibility of local school systems, teachers, parents, citizen boards, and state governments." Adhering to this principle, Reagan sought policies that "insure that local needs and preferences, rather than the wishes of Washington, determine the education of our children."

http://www.cato.org/research/education/articles/reagan.html
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2016-10-25 01:16:05 UTC
it does have some factors, yet like with the producer's different action picture (a minimum of i imagine its a similar guy), an inconvenient reality, the information are in undemanding words shown from one attitude. public training is failing international huge, so it isn't constrained to the U. S.. even if, i believe the yankee device ought to apply numerous progression. i lately got here from a eu usa the position we were easily predicted to comprehend and analyze the education we study. the following, it variety of appears like we in basic terms opt to study the information and fill interior the perfect circle on a special answer attempt. in social analyze we had assignments to judge what's taking position interior the middle east and which part we assume of is doing the right ingredient.
RoVale
2008-07-01 16:29:37 UTC
It's not a "failure". Because of it, we have higher literacy rates than many other countries in the world. It's been a great equalizer because it means that poor children can get an education instead of being married off, sent to work in factories, becoming child soldiers, or sold into prostitution like they are in many parts of the world. Do you really like the idea of privatizing education? It means that only those who can afford to send their children to school will be able to do so. Yes, there are problems but why not work to fix them instead of sitting back and complaining?
BUTCH
2008-07-01 16:27:22 UTC
It sure is. The liberals are in the back pocket of the NEA. The NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND is hated by the teachers union because it makes the teachers actually teach. In private industry you are rewarded for being productive where in teaching you get your pay & raises even if you dont bring up the grades of your students. Since when does more money make a student learn more. Only teachers teaching makes a student better. I grew up going to a two room school with 5 grades in one room & 3 in the other. We hasd a least 45 kids on each side. two of those students were elected to congress, two went to West Point & one became a very famous auther. I myself went to collage for engerneering. The two teachers of eight grades taught. I wish the ones today also did that , but the compiter has saved them the time. to bad the computer cant be paid. At least they earned it..
2008-07-01 16:43:21 UTC
In a sense yes, it is a failure of what liberals believe, that govt should be in charge of these things and that we must accept everybody and not discriminate even if they are bad at their jobs. It is a failure of liberal progressives at its core.
bob
2008-07-01 16:38:45 UTC
On the contrary, it shows that the conservative view of education as only a way to train workers is not working. Though most teachers tend to be liberals, much of the policy has be set by conservative governments. We need to bring back arts, civics and other important parts society back into our schools and go back to teaching subjects as opposed to teaching to testing as prescribed by our current policies.
John V
2008-07-01 16:22:41 UTC
That is a pretty cowardly position for a conservative to take. You claim that something as integral to our society as education is not affected by conservative policymakers (I guess you think conservatives cannot be bothered with education administration) then claim it is broken and it is the fault of liberals who saturated the system (a claim which is not substantiated by any credible study). No, any failure of the education system is not the fault of liberals exclusively.
2008-07-01 16:21:59 UTC
the failure of the education systems is that it is from the top down, everyone tends to study from the same books and the like all passed down through educational channels
Mattimus Prime IS AMERICA!
2008-07-01 16:23:40 UTC
I dont like liberal ideologies but I can't see the connection here....most of the countries with better education systems than ours are considered more liberal.



I dont think conservative or liberal has so much to do with education as just doing it right.
2008-07-01 16:20:28 UTC
NO, as a parent this is an issue that is VERY important to me !!



I have looked into this for some time



I can assure you that it's the frigging School Boards !!!



they make the rules that the schools (teachers) must follow !!!!

all of the blame can be put upon the school boards.



we must elect better leaders (as always) if we want change

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the schools where in Bad shape before "no child left behind"

that plan didn't help

but it is NOT to blame because the schools where Broken before bush came around !!!



as long as we Don't hold the boards accountable our schools will never be fixed !!!!
2008-07-01 16:17:00 UTC
The failure of education (maybe that's why you ask such uneducated questions), Britney not wearing panties and my corn flakes getting soggy are all due to liberal failures, if you believe the Conservatives.
teacher08
2008-07-01 16:26:28 UTC
Liberalism will only fail if McCain is elected



Go John



McCain 08



Republicans for what America Stands for
correrafan
2008-07-01 16:30:58 UTC
Absolutely NOT! Fire ALL the school boards, and turn the school over to the parents!
Emily Dew
2008-07-01 16:19:58 UTC
Absolutely! They have watered down graduation requirements and allowed children to be passed from grade to grade when they can't do the work because they see a person's self-esteem as being more important than actually teaching them anything. My kids go to a private school. Two years ago, I was in the office when a mother of a failing student came in to complain about the school's policy of giving a child only 70% of the grade if his homework is one day late. Apparently her child had a lot of trouble getting his homework done on time, but no one else in the class did. I know because her son was in my daughter's class and there were only 14 kids in the class. Anyway, she argued with this back and forth with the school administrators and finally she said, "How is this going to affect his self-esteem? He's a smart boy, but he's bringing home only C's!" I chuckled to myself imagining her years from now confronting her son's boss and arguing with him that just because he can't meet the deadlines he's given for his work, he shouldn't be denied a promotion. Thankfully, the school didn't cave in and suggested she work with him on time management skills. At the end of the year, she took him out of private school and put him in public school. I ran into her a few months ago and she gushed about how well her son is doing now in public school and how much happier he is. I really felt bad for the kid.
NoGod
2008-07-01 16:14:13 UTC
It is a failure of peoples' ability to read the Constitution. The government should have nothing to do with providing education, that should be handled completely by the private sector.



It is better to not be educated than to be educated by your government.
REAGAN REPUBLICAN
2008-07-01 16:18:13 UTC
yes because a basic principal of liberalism is to bring everyone down to a middle ground, god forbid you should tell Johnny he didnt do as well as some other students you will hurt his feelings and therefore scar him for life so lets all just pretend everyone is equal and live in a utopian society that will sink faster than the titanic
bwlobo
2008-07-01 16:13:35 UTC
Our Education system is broken by the teacher's union. In New York City, it often costs taxpayers $250,000 just to fire one incompetent teacher. Some teachers remain on the payroll even after being convicted of serious felonies, requiring districts to hold disciplinary hearings behind prison walls.



"Protecting jobs of adults without regard to how well their students perform almost certainly will lead to greater costs, stagnant academic achievement, and greater dysfunction of our public education system," says tenure foe B. Jason Brooks of the Foundation for Education Reform & Accountability.
fangtaiyang
2008-07-01 16:14:29 UTC
You have apparently been listening to conservative talk radio or watching a bit too much Fox "news". The ducational system is neither failing nor saturated with liberals.
fdm215
2008-07-01 16:22:09 UTC
How could it? Half the country are Conservatives!? AND, conservative administrations have been in charge for most of the past 40 years...



It's an American failure.
2008-07-01 16:17:31 UTC
P>C> gone wild
hansblix222
2008-07-01 16:14:45 UTC
Why is it that Republicans have a hard time doing math (look at the budget deficit and their ideas to spend even more money on wars)? And you want to cut taxes? You sure are ignoring a lot of hard evidence.
2008-07-01 16:12:27 UTC
The failure of collectivism, yes.
Jimmmminy
2008-07-01 16:13:32 UTC
Pied Piper, you are the greatest.



I really enjoy your questions and agree with you 90% of the time.



But your avatar looks like Disney's Aladdin.
2008-07-01 16:12:54 UTC
absolutely it is, the libs have failed to teach children the basics, but instead use the time to brain wash them with ideology


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