Question:
How do you propose we resolve the Arizona incident?
Andy
2010-05-23 00:16:01 UTC
It seems a loud, vocal minority of Arizonians have managed to turn their racist, xenophobic views into law. The question is how does the rest of USA handle this situation? Boycott? UN sanctions? If the situation isn't defused I think we might have to send in the military to handle this. Countries like Mexico and Cuba have already voiced outrage over this law. Arizona needs to start thinking globally.
Twenty answers:
anonymous
2010-05-23 00:20:43 UTC
They could start shooting illegals. Just open fire. That would fix it. Arizona is being invaded and invaders should be shot.
ohbrother
2010-05-23 00:44:58 UTC
The President would have to violate Posse Comitatus and that would be an impeachable offense. Ca. has a similar law that is more stringent than Arizona's'. I am a retired Police Officer from the Ca. Az. Mexico border. Our border cities populations by majority are Hispanic as are our city governments and community leaders. Our community leaders insisted to our city councils that their Officers enforce immigration law. We have done so for decades. You only hear about the far left governed cities like L.A., San Francisco and San Diego that are sanctuary cities. There are many more cities in Ca. that enforce Title 8 of the U.S. Code and Ca. Penal Code section 834(B) that orders Ca. law enforcement to enforce Federal law. Every Police Officer in this country takes an oath "To Protect and Defend the Constitution from All Enemies Foreign and Domestic and to Enforce All Laws State, Local and Federal" to not do so is a crime in it's self. It is an Act of Omission and the Officer could be prosecuted. 70 percent of America and over 60 percent of the citizens of Arizona in not a "vocal minority. The fact is you are the minority and a poorly informed one at that.



http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PEN/3/2/3/5/s834b
whiteflame55
2010-05-23 00:31:45 UTC
Admittedly, Mexico and Cuba have no clout with us, and should not have that clout. Arizona's a state, Arizona should be thinking about its citizens more than it worries about our international status as a country. Outrage is deserved, but I think there are a lot of reasons, not just xenophobia. But that's pretty much all I have to say on this, instead I'll focus on responses you're getting.



A lot of responses you're getting talk about widespread support for the bill. The reason for that is that it's been misrepresented by major news sources as simply an extension of federal law to the state level. Much of the bill (in fact, the majority of it) fits that description. The problem is that the remaining minority is the problem, and most people have no clue what it does. I'd be happy to explain what those are if anyone's having issues understanding them.



Seems others support their ability to think only about themselves. As I stated before, that should be Arizona's duty. Guess what the federal government's duty is? To see things from a national and international level. They're the ones who make the final decisions on such wide reaching bills as this, and the effects of bills like this should be explored. Don't understand why that's such a bad thing.
anonymous
2010-05-23 00:30:00 UTC
How about the Federal Government grows a sack and do their job so that the states don't have to do it and get into this mess? Does that sound good to you? Aside from that, all I can say is F&#K OFF! Screw political correctness, and start protecting us from the real and present danger that is illegal aliens, and maybe we (the states) won't have to step on people's toes. And if you want to start talking globally, let's talk about everyone else's immigration laws. Mexico's own immigration laws are a heck of a lot worse than giving cops the authority to pull someone over and ask for ID. And that's just a mild sampling about how weak the US is on immigration policy. You go places like Venezuela, Iran, etc, and they are much worse. Arizonans, and every other American, have the right to protect themselves from foreign invasion when the Federal government is too gutless to do it. It sickens me how every logical person sees a potential threat against Americans' lives, peace and well being, politicians see potential votes. I'd hate to see it get this far, but if the federal government doesn't want to step up to the plate, I'm glad to see that someone is.
sChNiTzEl
2010-05-23 00:56:36 UTC
Arizona has it's own time, its own sources of energy, except for Water (we get it from Colorado River),and we have a large retiring community. I do think we need more border patrol agents and National Guard until the drug wars in Mexico end. In regards to immigration reform it needs to be done, we cannot continue to be a country known for tearing up families, but it needs to be done in a right way.
mikey
2010-05-23 07:58:19 UTC
I will tell you what I'm going to do about this! I am going to look for any opportunity to do business with companies in Arizona. I will go out of my way for this. I don't want to see them pushed around by the liberal idiots who don't think breaking the law should be against the law! The majority of Americans support this bill. The vocal minority are the liberals in California. They need to wake up.
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2016-11-30 14:46:35 UTC
i like the plan. if somebody has brown dermis, pull them over, ask for his or her papers, ask the place they stay, ask the place they are going, ask them to step out of the vehicle, go searching the vehicle to examine for any hiding illegals, carry them up as long as available so no person thinks they might outsmart regulation enforcement, if the officer is asked why they have been pulled over the officer says he can do regardless of he needs. while they get the all sparkling, they might return domicile and google "Fourth replace to u.s. shape".
anonymous
2010-05-23 00:29:34 UTC
what incident are you talking about?..... the one where a small minority of people rioted just because AZ is enforcing federal law?



AZ needs to think globally?... last i checked world relations was the feds responsibility?



Cuba, and Mexico?...... both nations are guilty of human rights violations.





a small minority turned it into law?....... 80% of AZ (counting Hispanics and legal immigrants support the law) more then 60% of all Americans support it (again a large portion being minorities and legal immigrants).





you need to get you facts strait and quit being so melodramatic.
Michael
2010-05-23 00:23:12 UTC
Send the national guard to patrol the Arizona / Mexican border. Tell Mexico that they had better get control of their side in a specific time frame. After that we will start shooting at anyone we catch illegally crossing. Carry out said threat. Problem solved in less than one month.
neidem1
2010-05-23 00:18:48 UTC
Cuba requires papers at all times for everyone. Mexico requires papers for all immigrants at all times. Arizona is right on the money.



The rest of the U.S. should pass the exact same legislation in order to make the federal government enforce the laws already on the books.
ULTRA150
2010-05-23 00:19:26 UTC
Hey do you not under stand 70% in favor of the new law. Go get a life and a new brain because the very small one you have now is NOT working.
anonymous
2010-05-23 00:23:10 UTC
By obeying the laws of the land and adopting similar legislation in every state. And I really don't care what third world countries that can't get their own acts together, think.
scruffycat
2010-05-23 00:31:57 UTC
Hey! Here's a novel idea! People should actually READ the law BEFORE they voice yet another ignorant opinion.
Usagi Yojimbo
2010-05-23 00:22:06 UTC
You are in the minority amigo, the bill is both favored nationwide and constitutional. If it wasn't the weaping heart liberals would have filed suits already, or been arguing it true legality.



A Rocky Mountain Poll conducted by Behavior Research Center and released Wednesday indicates that 52 percent of Arizonans back the measure, with 39 percent opposed and nine percent unsure. May 5, 2010.



May13, 2010:

Two recent polls indicate that a majority of adults across the nation, including many Democrats, support Arizona's new immigration law, but a third poll indicates that Latino voters in Arizona overwhelmingly oppose it.



The new law, which goes into effect July 29, makes it a state crime to be in the country illegally and requires police to inquire about the immigration status of anyone they reasonably suspect to be in the country illegally.



A poll conducted by the Washington, D.C.-based, nonpartisan Pew Research Center indicated that 63 percent nationally support allowing police to question anyone they think may be in the country illegally and that 59 percent approve of Arizona's new illegal-immigration law.



The poll surveyed 994 adults nationwide by phone from May 6 to May 9. Released Wednesday, it had a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points. Of those polled:



• 73 percent approve of "requiring people to produce documents verifying legal status."



• 67 percent approve of "allowing police to detain anyone unable to verify legal status."



• 62 percent approve of "allowing police to question anyone they think may be in the country illegally."



• 59 percent approve of the new Arizona law.



Most Republicans polled indicated they approve of the three provisions and the law itself, while 45 percent of Democrats said they approve of the law and 46 percent said they disapprove.



Democrats were split on whether police should be allowed to question individuals thought to be in the country illegally but supported requiring people to produce documents and allowing police to detain individuals unable to verify their legal status.



The older the participant, the more they indicated support for the three provisions and the new law.



McClatchy Newspapers on Wednesday also released the results of a poll that was conducted with the New York-based market-research company Ipsos.



The poll surveyed 1,016 adults from May 6 to May 9 and had a margin of error of plus or minus 3.07 percentage points.



McClatchy reporter Margaret Talev said 61 percent of respondents favor Arizona's new law.



Most Republicans said they favor the law, while 46 percent of Democrats favor it.



Also, 49 percent of Democrats would favor the law's passage in their own state.



The McClatchy poll also indicated that 69 percent of Americans wouldn't mind if police officers stopped them to ask for proof of citizenship or the legal right to be in the country.



Last week, a poll commissioned by the National Council of La Raza indicated that Arizona Latino voters strongly oppose Arizona's new illegal-immigration law, are worried that those legally in the country will be stopped and believe police will target Latinos for questioning.



The Washington-based Hispanic civil-rights and advocacy group has opposed Senate Bill 1070.



A release from La Raza and polling group Latino Decisions stated that the intent of the poll was to understand Latino views toward the new law.



Pollsters questioned Latino registered voters in Arizona via phone from April 30 to May 5.



It had a margin of error of 4.9 percentage points.
anonymous
2010-05-23 00:20:45 UTC
Nice rendition of a typical liberal's thoughts.
PeguinBackPacker
2010-05-23 00:22:51 UTC
White and Sorry?



Thats a laugh.
anonymous
2010-05-23 00:20:32 UTC
a Mexicans Choice:



Sign legal but one hospital trip sends you bankrupt.debt. there goes the college tuition and food on the table and rent



Go in illegal .and receive help
tagsmommy32
2010-05-23 00:21:19 UTC
I rarely swear on here but f*** globally.
anonymous
2010-05-23 00:23:04 UTC
Arizona? Never heard of it. They aren't a part of our 49 state union.
Deb M
2010-05-23 00:29:11 UTC
Boycott Arizona...hit them where it hurts....in their pocketbook!


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