Question:
Is there anybody with a phyical or mental age over 14 who can give one valid reason why "Bush lied"?
anonymous
2006-05-30 13:52:22 UTC
Without using the same, tired rhetoric that we always hear from you people ... you know, that stuff you heard from Al Franken that you repeat here without realizing that it didn't actually make sense when he said it.

HINT: If your posts are usually incomplete sentences filled with random, disjointed thoughts and crammed with spelling errors and annoying abbreviations, you are not the person to answer this question.
21 answers:
Marshall
2006-05-30 14:11:13 UTC
No, Bush did not deceive the American people. Please consider the following information as reference:



Iraqis can participate in three historic elections, pass the most liberal constitution in the Arab world, and form a unity government despite terrorist attacks and provocations. Yet for some critics of the president, these are minor matters. Like swallows to Capistrano, they keep returning to the same allegations--the president misled the

country in order to justify the Iraq war; his administration

pressured intelligence agencies to bias their judgments; Saddam Hussein turned out to be no threat since he didn't possess weapons of mass destruction; and helping democracy take root in the Middle East was a postwar rationalization. The problem with these charges is that they are false and can be shown to be so--and yet people continue to believe, and spread, them. Let me examine each in turn:



The president misled Americans to convince them to go to war. "There is no question [the Bush administration] misled the nation and led us into a quagmire in Iraq," according to Ted Kennedy. Jimmy Carter charged that on Iraq, "President Bush has not been honest with the

American people." And Al Gore has said that an "abuse of the truth" characterized the administration's "march to war." These charges are themselves misleading, which explains why no independent body has found them credible. Most of the world was operating from essentially

the same set of assumptions regarding Iraq's WMD capabilities. Important assumptions turned out wrong; but mistakenly relying on faulty intelligence is a world apart from lying about it.



Let's review what we know. The National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) is the intelligence community's authoritative written judgment on specific national-security issues. The 2002 NIE provided a key

judgment: "Iraq has continued its [WMD] programs in defiance of U.N. resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as well as missiles with ranges in excess of U.N. restrictions; if left unchecked, it probably will have a nuclear weapon during this decade."



Thanks to the bipartisan Silberman-Robb Commission, which

investigated the causes of intelligence failures in the run-up to the war, we now know that the President's Daily Brief (PDB) and the Senior Executive Intelligence Brief "were, if anything, more alarmist and less nuanced than the NIE" (my emphasis). We also know that the intelligence in the PDB was not "markedly different" from that given to Congress. This helps explains why John Kerry, in voting to give

the president the authority to use force, said, "I believe

that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a threat, and a grave threat, to our security." It's why Sen. Kennedy said, "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." And it's why Hillary Clinton said in 2002, "In the four years since the inspectors, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild

his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability and his nuclear program."



Beyond that, intelligence agencies from around the globe believed Saddam had WMD. Even foreign governments that opposed his removal from power believed Iraq had WMD: Just a few weeks before Operation Iraqi Freedom, Wolfgang Ischinger, German ambassador to the U.S., said, "I think all of our governments believe that Iraq has produced

weapons of mass destruction and that we have to assume that they continue to have weapons of mass destruction."



In addition, no serious person would justify a war based on

information he knows to be false and which would be shown to be false within months after the war concluded. It is not as if the WMD stockpile question was one that wasn't going to be answered for a century to come.



The Bush administration pressured intelligence agencies to bias their judgments. Earlier this year, Mr. Gore charged that "CIA analysts who strongly disagreed with the White House . . . found themselves under pressure at work and became fearful of losing promotions and salary increases." Sen. Kennedy charged that the administration "put

pressure on intelligence officers to produce the desired intelligence and analysis."



This myth is shattered by the Senate Select Committee on

Intelligence's bipartisan Report on the U.S. Intelligence Community's Prewar Intelligence Assessments on Iraq. Among the findings: "The committee did not find any evidence that intelligence analysts changed their judgments as a result of political pressure, altered or produced intelligence products to conform with administration policy,

or that anyone even attempted to coerce, influence or pressure analysts to do so." Silberman-Robb concluded the same, finding "no evidence of political pressure to influence the Intelligence Community's prewar assessments of Iraq's weapons programs. . . . Analysts universally asserted that in no instance did political pressure cause them to skew or alter any of their analytical

judgments." What the report did find is that intelligence assessments on Iraq were "riddled with errors"; "most of the fundamental errors were made and communicated to policy makers well before the now-infamous NIE of October 2002, and were not corrected in the months between the NIE and the start of the war."



Because weapons of mass destruction stockpiles weren't found, Saddam posed no threat. Howard Dean declared Iraq "was not a danger to the United States." John Murtha asserted, "There was no threat to our national security." Max Cleland put it this way: "Iraq was no threat. We now know that. There are no weapons of mass destruction, no

nuclear weapons programs." Yet while we did not find stockpiles of WMD in Iraq, what we did find was enough to alarm any sober-minded individual.



Upon his return from Iraq, weapons inspector David Kay, head of the Iraq Survey Group (ISG), told the Senate: "I actually think this may be one of those cases where [Iraq under Saddam Hussein] was even more dangerous than we thought." His statement when issuing the ISG progress report said: "We have discovered dozens of WMD-related

program activities" that were part of "deliberate concealment efforts" that should have been declared to the U.N. And, he concluded, "Saddam, at least as judged by those scientists and other insiders who worked in his military-industrial programs, had not given up his aspirations and intentions to continue to acquire

weapons of mass destruction."



Among the key findings of the September 2004 report by Charles Duelfer, who succeeded Mr. Kay as ISG head, are that Saddam was pursuing an aggressive strategy to subvert the Oil for Food Program and to bring down U.N. sanctions through illicit finance and procurement schemes; and that Saddam intended to resume WMD efforts once U.N. sanctions were eliminated. According to Mr. Duelfer, "the guiding theme for WMD was to sustain the intellectual capacity

achieved over so many years at such a great cost and to be in a position to produce again with as short a lead time as possible.



. . . Virtually no senior Iraqi believed that Saddam had forsaken WMD forever. Evidence suggests that, as resources became available and the constraints of sanctions decayed, there was a direct expansion of activity that would have the effect of supporting future WMD reconstitution."



Beyond this, Saddam's regime was one of the most sadistic and aggressive in modern history. It started a war against Iran and used mustard gas and nerve gas. A decade later Iraq invaded Kuwait. Iraq was a massively destabilizing force in the Middle East; so long as Saddam was in power, rivers of blood were sure to follow.



Promoting democracy in the Middle East is a postwar rationalization. "The president now says that the war is really about the spread of democracy in the Middle East. This effort at after-the-fact justification was only made necessary because the primary rationale was so sadly lacking in fact," according to Nancy Pelosi. In fact,

President Bush argued for democracy taking root in Iraq before the war began. To take just one example, he said in a speech on Feb. 26, 2003: "A liberated Iraq can show the power of freedom to transform that vital region, by bringing hope and progress into the lives of millions. America's interests in security, and America's belief in

liberty, both lead in the same direction: to a free and peaceful Iraq. . . . The world has a clear interest in the spread of democratic values, because stable and free nations do not breed the ideologies of murder. They encourage the peaceful pursuit of a better life. And there are hopeful signs of a desire for freedom in the

Middle East. . . . A new regime in Iraq would serve as a dramatic and inspiring example of freedom for other nations in the region."



The following day the New York Times editorialized: "President Bush sketched an expansive vision last night of what he expects to accomplish by a war in Iraq. . . . The idea of turning Iraq into a model democracy in the Arab world is one some members of the administration have been discussing for a long time."



These, then, are the urban legends we must counter, else falsehoods become conventional wisdom. And what a strange world it is: For many antiwar critics, the president is faulted for the war, and he, not the former dictator of Iraq, inspires rage. The liberator rather than the oppressor provokes hatred. It is as if we have stepped through the political looking glass, into a world turned upside down and inside out.
anonymous
2006-05-30 14:16:33 UTC
I guess the answer to your question is a resounding, "NO!"



There is nobody who can prove or show how Bush lied. Because he didn't. The 9/11 Commission, the world's intelligence agencies, the UN records, Clinton's administration, every data set out there supports every reason that Bush presented to the American public multiple times.



That things were found to be different afterwards does not make the reasons into lies. Intelligence is never perfect, and after Clinton's cuts, it was downright blind.



But expecting mature or reasoned responses from the 'bush lied' crowd is to be dreaming an impossible dream.
anonymous
2006-05-30 14:10:52 UTC
What stuff from "Al Franken" ???

Really ! Can you point out even ONE lie Al Franken has told.

Can you point out ONE thing Al has said that "didn't actually make sense" (just one thing !!)

Looks like YOUR the one that likes to Lie and spin the truth.



To answer your question : Where are the Weapons of Mass Destruction !!

bush jr. lied about W.M.D's. ( and don't give me that crap about how we just have not found them yet )

And yes I know about the C.I.A. and the "Slam Dunk" but if that's a lie and bush repeats it and then goes to war over it, then.. bush lied.

If you act on lies, repeat lies, go to war over lies - then your a liar.
anonymous
2006-05-30 14:02:26 UTC
Why did Bush lie? To bring us into a war with Iraq while ignoring any effort to fight real terrorism in places where the atackers on 9-11 are from.

So he lied to the Congress to get a plan implimented that goes all the way back to Reagan to invade the oil rich, key located Iraq.

It is a capitalists dream come true and you bought it all, all the propaganda, because you are too dogmatic, closed-minded and narrow to see that this transcends Liberal/Conservative, Repubs/Dems lines, and all that dichotomy is thrown in your face to keep you from realizing this is the same old imperialist story that goes far back in history. Rich vs Poor and the pilaging of the majority to benefit this small elite minority. I hope when you get to be college age you go, GOD! - ND
The Angry Stick Man
2006-05-30 14:01:05 UTC
Money. If you don't think that is what really runs the country then your blind. War makes people money, Bush is a business man, he was before he got into office and he will be when he gets out. Bush and Cheney have many links to big oil, and now exxon-mobil posts record profits, we pay 3$ because of " instability in the region " that we created. If you can't connect those dots then you need to go back to first grade.
slyintellectual
2006-05-30 14:05:51 UTC
Hmm. That Bush lied, there is no question, and my fellow Canadian must have been living on the outskirts of Yellowknife in an igloo not to know it. WMD's alone ought to do it, but there's tons more if you look.



But Why Bush lied is a a more complex question. Clinton lied too, as did Reagan. Maybe the real question is not whether or why, but what they lied about. Bush and Reagan lied about important aspects of national security, and are open to charges of treason for it. Clinton lied about his private life--a different matter altogether.
prayingbulldog4jc
2006-05-30 13:58:37 UTC
To my knowledge, Bush has never lied, and even the US media people who dislike him have never caught him in a lie, so my question to you is, How do you know Bush lied? Just call me a Canadian who deeply respects Bush, and gets sick of all the disrespect some of the US of A population gives him. I would have loved to have him as the leader of my country from 1993 until Steven Harper, a man I can deeply respect, was finally voted in last year.
ssab72
2006-05-30 13:59:21 UTC
Well, the question is a paradox. I don't think anyone with a mental age over 14 can give a valid reason. Also, which lie are you talking about?



In the end, it's all about the money
dubbyaisanass
2006-05-30 14:34:09 UTC
Bush Lies In State Of The Union Speech



Bush: "By the year 2042, the entire [social security] system would be exhausted and bankrupt."



In what the BBC calls "highly unusual," a State of the Union Speech was interrupted by a chorus of "No's," booing, and heckles from some of the members of Congress in attendance. This happened immediately after the above Bush lie. As Shields mentioned on the PBS wrap-up, and as Brooks concurred, if adjustments are not made, by 2042, as they have been made before, 3/4 of the funds promised would still be available. The entire system would neither be exhausted nor bankrupt.



The central rationale behind the invasion of Iraq was the certain threat posed by its weapons of mass destruction, including the imminent development of a nuclear capability.



In the aftermath of the war, we are left with the argument that while we have found no significant evidence of chemical, biological or nuclear weaponry, Saddam Hussein was a despot who mistreated his own people and the war was therefore justified. Contrary to the administration's prewar claims, the CIA, FBI and British intelligence have found no link between al-Qaida and Iraq.



On the home front, President Bush proclaimed that a report by leading economists concluded that the economy would grow by 3.3 percent in 2003 if his tax cut proposals were adopted. No such report exists.



To explain why he has turned a $236 billion budget surplus into a projected $307 billion deficit in 2004, the president claimed that he had said during the campaign that he would allow the federal budget to go into deficit in times of war, recession or national emergency but never imagined he would have a "trifecta." Actually, Mr. Bush never made such a campaign statement. These three caveats on deficits were promulgated by Al Gore.



Listen to President Bush in December 2001 explaining publicly how he learned about the terrorist attacks three months before: "I was in Florida. And ... I was sitting outside [an elementary school] classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower - the TV was obviously on, and I used to fly myself, and I said, 'There's one terrible pilot.'"



This account is obviously false since network cameras were not trained on the towers at the time the first airliner hit; it was only later that amateur video of this event was broadcast.



The president also said to the father of twins, "I've been to war. I've raised twins. If I had a choice, I'd rather go to war." Mr. Bush was a member of the Texas Air National Guard between 1968 and 1973 and never left the country in pursuit of his duties.



"[Castro] welcomes sex tourism," Bush told a room of law enforcement officials in Florida, according to the Los Angeles Times. "Here's how he bragged about the industry," Bush said. "This is his quote: 'Cuba has the cleanest and most educated prostitutes in the world.'"



"As it turns out, Bush had lifted that quotation not from an actual Castro speech but rather from a 2001 essay written by then Dartmouth University undergraduate Charles Trumbull. In the essay, Trumbull did appear to quote a Castro speech about prostitution. Sadly, the student made the quotation up.



"According to officials, the actual quotation from Castro's 1992 speech reads as follows: 'There are hookers, but prostitution is not allowed in our country. There are no women forced to sell themselves to a man, to a foreigner, to a tourist. Those who do so do it on their own, voluntarily. We can say that they are highly educated hookers and quite healthy, because we are the country with the lowest number of AIDS cases.'"



Back in 2003, the President cited another student's thesis when making a case to go to war. The student's [plagiarized and "sexed up"] work ended up in a government document describing Iraq's weapons capability. Not exactly the kind of hard intelligence needed to justify an attack on another country."



It's too facile to say that all politicians lie and that leaders commonly deceive in pursuit of their goals. We are entitled to expect more from someone who campaigned on a pledge to "restore integrity to the White House."
Kragh
2006-05-30 14:00:10 UTC
He just needed a reason that every morone on this planet could except to invade Iraq. Nothing more, nothing less. He's an oil monger. A puppet to the oil industry. Why do you think our cars aren't running on hydrogen or fuel-cells? Because the oil industry is making a fortune on high oil prices.
anonymous
2006-05-30 14:21:29 UTC
"Yes, we know where the WMD's are, they're in the Khazari region just 38 miles north of Baghdad. Right now it is simply a matter of reaching them."

-Bush in a news interview, pre-invasion of Iraq.



He is a liar.

note: this quote/something similar to it, was repeated also by SD Donald Rumsfeld on several occasions.
cantcu
2006-05-30 14:00:55 UTC
There are none, so no one with a mental age of 14 or above can answer this question. I am not sure if Bush knows, with the exception of access to Iraqi's oil, and that is not a valid reason.



And he didn't lie? Where would you like me to start, his failure to disclose his drug and alcohol abuse and his DUI?
eatmorec11h17no3
2006-05-30 13:59:13 UTC
We were told the administration KNEW where the huge caches of bio/chem weapons were at. To this day, I have heard nothing beyond reports of 2 IEDs using old chemical warheads(go check on foxnews.com). Where are the 500-ton caches of VX? Where are the thousands of liters of anthrax?
anonymous
2006-05-30 13:58:09 UTC
Yeah, he lied to the American People.. Intelligence agencies were pressured to develope false information.. Why, because he brought in the old school from his papps's administration and they had bone on their throat about Iraq.. Well that bone has certainly grown in last 4 years.
anonymous
2006-05-30 13:56:55 UTC
Well listen Rush, you can always tell when Bush is lying, his lips are moving. Oh and I am 60 does that meet your criteria.
sassyk
2006-05-30 13:58:10 UTC
Which lie are you referring to? I believe the man cannot tell the truth about anything. So be specific on which lie, okay?
anonymous
2006-05-30 14:04:05 UTC
my answer is bush did not lie and who do you think you are to tell me I'm not the one to answer you egotistical *****.
JeSuSrOcKz!
2006-05-30 13:54:25 UTC
hey guess what? you are very weird and confusing!! and bush didn't lie you liberal!! so i suggest you shut up!! GO BUSH!!
anonymous
2006-05-30 15:27:19 UTC
i will go real slow so you can read this... Are you ready?





LIE NUMBER 1) Simply stated, there is no doubt that

Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction.

(Dick Cheney)





LIE NUMBER 2) Right NOW, Iraq is expanding and

improving facilities that were used for the production

of biological weapons. (George W. Bush)





LIE NUMBER 3):If he declares he has none, then we will

know that Saddam Hussein is once again misleading the

world.(Ari Fleischer)





LIE NUMBER 4):We know for a FACT that there are

weapons there.(Ari Fleischer)





LIE NUMBER 5):Our intelligence officials estimate

that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as

much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.

(George W.

Bush)

















LIE NUMBER 9):Intelligence gathered by this and other

governments leaves no doubt that the Iraq regime

continues to possess and conceal some of the most

lethal weapons ever devised. (George W. Bush, March

17,2003)



LIE NUMBER 10):Well, there is no question that we have

evidence and information that Iraq has weapons of mass

destruction, biological and chemical particularly. . .

all this will be made clear in the course of the

operation, for whatever duration it takes.(Ari

Fleisher, March

21,2003)



LIE NUMBER 11):There is no doubt that the regime of

Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction.

And . . . as this operation continues, those weapons

will be identified, found, along with the people who

have produced them and who guard them.( General Tommy

Franks, March 22,2003)



LIE NUMBER 12: I have no doubt we're going to find big

stores of weapons of mass destruction.(Kenneth

Adelman, March 23,2003)





LIE NUMBER 13: One of our top objectives is to find

and destroy the WMD There are a number of sites. (

Victoria Clark, March 22, 2003)





LIE NUMBER 14):We know where they are. They're in the

area around Tikrit and Baghdad and east, west, south

and north somewhat.(Donald Rumsfeld, March 30,

2003)



LIE NUMBER 15):Obviously the administration intends to

publicize all the weapons of mass destruction U.S.

forces find -- and there will be plenty.( Neocon

Sholar, Robert Kagan, April 9,2003)





LIE NUMBER 16):I think you have always heard, and you

continue to hear from officials, a measure of high

confidence that, indeed, the weapons of mass

destruction will be found. (Ari Fleisher,April 10,

2003)



LIE NUMBER 17):We are learning more as we interrogate

or have discussions with Iraqi scientists and people

within the Iraqi structure, that perhaps he destroyed

some, perhaps he dispersed some. And so we will find

them.(George W. Bush, April

24,2003)



LIE NUMBER 18):There are people who in large measure

have information that we need .. . so that we can

track down the weapons of mass destruction in that

country. ( Donald Rumbsfeld, April 25, 2003)



LIE NUMBER 19): We'll find them(WMD). It'll be a matter of

time to do so. (George W. Bush, May 3, 2003)





LIE NUMBER 20): I'm absolutely sure that there are

weapons of mass destruction there and the evidence

will be forthcoming. We're just getting it just now.(

Colin Powell, May 4, 2004)



LIE NUMBER 21): We never believed that we'd just

tumble over weapons of mass destruction in that

country.(Donald Rumsfeld, May 4, 2003)





LIE NUMBER 22): I'm not surprised if we begin to

uncover the weapons program of Saddam Hussein --

because he had a weapons program. =)), (George W.

Bush, May 6, 2003)





LIE NUMBER 23): U.S. officials never expected that "we

were going to open garages and find" weapons of mass

destruction. ( Condoleeza Rice, May 12, 2003)



LIE NUMBER 24): I just don't know whether it was all

destroyed years ago -- I mean, there's no question

that there were chemical weapons years ago -- whether

they were destroyed right before the war, (or) whether

they're still hidden. (Major General David Petraeus,

May 13,2003)





LIE NUMBER 25): there's no doubt in my mind that

Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction,

biological and chemical. I expected them to be found.

I still expect them to be found. =)), (General Michael

Hagee, May 21, 2003)





LIE NUMBER 26): Given time, given the number of

prisoners now that we're interrogating, I'm confident

that we're going to find weapons of mass destruction.

=))=))

( General Richard Myers, May 26,2003)



8-}:-?? LIE NUMBER 27): They may have had time to destroy

them, and I don't know the answer. (Donald Dumbsfeld,

May 27, 2003)





LIE NUMBER 28):For bureaucratic reasons, we settled on

one issue, weapons of mass destruction (as

justification for invading Iraq) because it was the

one reason everyone could agree on. ( Paul Wolfowitz,

May 28, 2003) =))





Lying Comes Naturally to Republicans

Whenever Republican politicians find themselves in trouble, their automatic knee-jerk reaction is to blame Democrats. If there is nothing to blame Democrats for, they merely make something up - they lie. This is exactly what the Republican National Committee (RNC) chairman, following the lead of his boss George W. Bush, has done and is doing. He is placing the blame of the mean and punitive House immigration bill on the Democrats, when he knows that it is an outrageous lie.

"To be anti- George Bush is to be pro-American,"



I think he's dangerous, and he has to be stopped."



U.S. Troops Killed in Iraq Tops 2,400



now was that to much for you?
Gypsy
2006-05-30 14:06:18 UTC
he didn't lie, he just misspoke, like all those other times...
kucitizenx
2006-05-30 14:28:09 UTC
Bush lied because he is an evil fascist with an agenda to make money off of being president.

--------.1 NSA warrantless surveillance controversy

1.1 NSA warrantless surveillance controversy http://www.uruknet.info/?s1=1&p=19593&s2=14 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSA_warrantless_surveillance_controversy http://www.answers.com/topic/nsa-warrantless-surveillance-controversy http://www.experiencefestival.com/blog http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/01/AR2006010100391.html http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-12-18-nsa-70s_x.htm?csp=N009 http://www.coxwashington.com/reporters/content/reporters/stories/BC_NSA_SPY06_COX.html http://talkleft.com/new_archives/014240.html http://www.soros.org/initiatives/washington/news/nsa_20060106/nsasurveill_20060106.pdf http://prawfsblawg.blogs.com/prawfsblawg/2006/01/the_nsa_wiretap.html http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474976733326 http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20060309/index.htm http://talkleft.com/new_archives/013624.html http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/01/08/surveillance_controversy_puts_nsa_back_into_harsh_spotlight/ http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/3/14/95724/1640



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1.2 Invasion of Iraq

http://www.harpers.org/TheCaseForImpeachment.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A3933-2004Oct27.html http://democrats.com/bush-impeachment-poll-1 http://impeachpac.org/ http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/review/article_full_story.asp?service_id=8846 http://www.counterpunch.org/boyle07252003.html http://www.tvnewslies.org/html/iraq_lies.html http://www.impeachbush.org/site/News2?JServSessionIdr011=mfjzf46q22.app5b&page=NewsArticle&id=5129&news_iv_ctrl=0



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1.2.1 Consitutionality of Invasion

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legitimacy_of_the_2003_invasion_of_Iraq http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/24307/ http://lefti.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_lefti_archive.html http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0128-08.htm http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Sept04/Jayne-Kramer0920.htm http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,1070-2093847,00.html http://thinkprogress.org/2006/04/10/wrong-again-about-iraq/



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1.2.2 Justification for Invasion

1.2.2 Justification for Invasion + devote to arguing and belaboring the point with the rest of us. The evidence was cooked up over a period of several months, and anybody paying attention knew even at the time that the WMD was a bald faced lie. This has now been proven as fact. Not only were no WMD found, but there was never any real evidence that there was any WMD, and the CIA report was that those weapons which Saddam had were destroyed or inoperable. The Bush administration lied to justify the war.



http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=67020 + http://smh.com.au/news/World/White-House-knew-there-were-no-WMD-



http://writ.news.findlaw.com/dean/20030606.html http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/apr2003/sanc-a21.shtml http://www.wsws.org/articles/2003/jun2003/wmd-j21.shtml http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WMDlies.html http://www.notinourname.net/war/wmd_text.htm http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB80/ http://www.counterpunch.org/wmd05292003.html http://pages.zdnet.com/trimb/id79.html http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/04/11/AR2006041101888.html http://www.wmdthefilm.com/mambo/index.php



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1.3 Geneva Conventions controversy

Torture, illegal detention, failure to abide by geneva conventions, no lawyers, no press, murder by means of torture, murder by means of starvation, etc. http://www.uruknet.info/?s1=1&p=19580&s2=14 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4415132.stm http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=05/02/18/157206 http://www.blogd.com/archives/000618.html http://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/2005/11/07/bush-torture051107.html http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/11/07/national/w070802S23.DTL http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article7524.htm http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2006/01/04/bush_could_bypass_new_torture_ban/



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1.4 Extraordinary rendition

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraordinary_rendition http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?050214fa_fact6 http://obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidian_wings/2004/09/legalizing_tort.html http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/02/18/opinion/courtwatch/main674973.shtml http://www.sptimes.com/2003/11/16/Columns/Delivering_people_int.shtml http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A18709-2005Mar8.html http://www.aclu.org/safefree/extraordinaryrendition/22203res20051206.html http://terrorism.about.com/od/civillibertiesissues/a/extrarendition.htm



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1.5 Treatment of detainees

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1.6 Allegedly leaking classified information

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Plame http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plame_affair



http://www.thenation.com/blogs/capitalgames?pid=823 http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Valerie_Plame http://www.tpmcafe.com/story/2005/7/13/04720/9340 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/28/AR2005102801172.html http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/ http://impeachpac.org/?q=node/892 http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/02/09/politics/main1302808.shtml http://www.alternet.org/story/34752/?comments=view&cID=106796&pID=106655



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1.6.1 Allegedly declassifying for political purposes

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1.7 Hurricane Katrina

1.7 Hurricane Katrina "FEMA" was technically disbanded and its resources given to the Department of homeland security. The agency was slow to respond because domestic emergencies were not in its original mission statement. Evidence suggests that the flooding could have been stopped easilly by sufficient deployment of US resources. Further evidence suggests that the US military actually destroyed the Levees. Detainment and abuse of Katrina victims as if they were prisoners of war. Despicable refusal to allow rescue operations by other parties. Funneling of funds away from the victims. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Katrina http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/03/katrina.chertoff/ http://www.dhs.gov/interweb/assetlibrary/katrina.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_theories_regarding_Hurricane_Katrina http://www.alternet.org/katrina/30044/ http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:f-W7ZKfO7FcJ:www-news.uchicago.edu/releases/06/images/katrina_report.doc+Hurricane+katrina+us+government+destroyed+levees&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=14 http://www.socialismandliberation.org/mag/index.php?aid=478 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/01/27/AR2006012701818_pf.html



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1.8 Abuse of power



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Additional rationales to impeach include;

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1.9 Involvement in and complicity regarding 911.

http://www.buzzflash.com/perspectives/911bush.html http://www.sumeria.net/ http://www.patriotsaints.com/News/911/Conspiracy/Bush/ http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911short.htm http://www.inthesetimes.com/site/main/article/they_knew_0802/ http://www.mikehersh.com/article_65.shtml http://www.911forthetruth.com/





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http://www.ioerror.us/2005/11/11/explosives-may-have-been-used-to-demolish-towers-in-911-cover-up/ http://samizdat.gnn.tv/blogs/10647/BYU_Professor_Says_Bombs_Not_Planes_Toppled_Twin_Towers http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?noframes;read=82418 http://www.reopen911.org/BYU-Physics.htm http://chapelhill.indymedia.org/news/2005/04/14975_comment.php http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20051111074847512 http://www.seekinglight.net/911vis/rwtcpdf.pdf http://www.911review.com/911review/markup/TwinTowers.shtml



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*1.10 Failure to act to defend the country on 911.

http://emperors-clothes.com/indict/indict-2.htm http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2005-05-22-571pglie.php http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20050523112738404 http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=GRI20050908&articleId=907 http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/911failure.html http://www.radio4all.net/podcast.php/program_9081.xml?program_id=9081&version=1&session= http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=75&contentid=2307&page=2 http://911research.wtc7.net/planes/analysis/norad/



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*1.11 Rigged elections issues

http://www.votescam.com/==

http://www.carpenoctem.tv/cons/voting.html

http://www.jfkmontreal.com/bush_votescam.htm

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1060

http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=182&row=2

http://www.votefraud.org/

http://www.garlicandgrass.org/issue8/Diane_Perlman.cfm

http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/KEE412A.html

http://revspork.blogs.com/revspork/2004/10/more_fun_with_e.html *http://www.oilempire.us/stolenelection2004.html

http://www.blackboxvoting.org/

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/04votefraud.html

http://voteraction.org/

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1.12 The no child left behind act

Is actually another example of "Ushering in an ownsership society"





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"Usher in an Ownership Era...because a vibrant entrepreneurial spirit will keep our economy strong and provide more opportunities for workers and families." https://www.donationreport.com/init/controller/ProcessEntryCmd?key=V3T5C7I2X4 Movement to impeach George W. Bush





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ie; Corporatization and privatization. The act is meant to make public schools incapable of living up to the new higher bar, and is enacted while simultaneously cutting funding to education. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0807004596/002-4140156-0504039?v=glance&n=283155 http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/03/12/1534250 http://www.rethinkingschools.org/special_reports/bushplan/nclb181.shtml http://www.rppi.org/nochild.html http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4683278 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_Child_Left_Behind_Act http://www.america-tomorrow.com/bracey/EDDRA/EDDRA28.htm http://www.indybay.org/news/2004/12/1708610.php



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1.13 The imigration act

passed last year or so is actually who is by any logical analysis an act authorizing indentured servitude or slavery in the US. http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-17-05/discussion.cgi.84.html http://apstudent.com/ushistory/cards/cards17.html http://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2004/2004_40-49/2004-47/pdf/57-61_46_eco.pdf http://www.alipac.us/article702.html http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9961300/the_worst_president_in_history?rnd=1146018227453&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1040 http://mostlycajun.com/wordpress/?p=1730 http://www.floc.com/immigrantrights.html



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1.14 The USA patriot act

mirrored the Natzi enabling act and was written by some of the same Authors.





http://www.federalobserver.com/archive.php?aid=10165 http://www.majorityreportradio.com/weblog/archives/000139.php http://www.askquestions.org/details.php?id=23 http://www.shoutwire.com/comments/7182/How_the_Patriot_Act_Compares_to_Hitler_s_Enabling_Act http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/7182/How_the_Patriot_Act_Compares_to_Hitler_s_Enabling_Act



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1.15 The handling of the Iraq invasion forces

demonstrated to the Iraqis that despite the rhetoric, the Bush administration was only interested in oil. Oil resources were protected above civilians, and even above serious military targets, including weapons depots.


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