Question:
Why do people forget that America was a conservative Christian nation?
2015-06-03 20:29:11 UTC
Wasn't America founded on Christian ideals
309 answers:
?
2015-06-10 19:15:59 UTC
Is the United States a "Christian nation"? Some Americans think so. Religious Right activists and right-wing television preachers often claim that the United States was founded to be a Christian nation. Even some politicians agree. If the people who make this assertion are merely saying that most Americans are Christians, they might have a point. But those who argue that America is a Christian nation usually mean something more, insisting that the country should be officially Christian. The very character of our country is at stake in the outcome of this debate.



Religious Right groups and their allies insist that the United States was designed to be officially Christian and that our laws should enforce the doctrines of (their version of) Christianity. Is this viewpoint accurate? Is there anything in the Constitution that gives special treatment or preference to Christianity? Did the founders of our government believe this or intend to create a government that gave special recognition to Christianity?
Eric
2015-06-09 17:51:04 UTC
This country did not begin as a christian theocracy. Neither was it established solely by the founding fathers. (and how could a newly formed country be conservative?) The religious beliefs of the majority populous has had an influence over the way this nation has turned out but probably not in the way you think it did. THIS NATION STARTED AS A PRISON COLONY! Most of the early American colonists were sent to the colonies in a prisoner trade conducted by the ecclesiastic courts of 16-17th century England. Very few colonists came of their own volition and most of those who did were protestant refugees escaping the rule King Charles the first because he associated himself with the catholic church and claimed a "holy" right to rule over England which kicked of the British civil war. Around the same time, two major christian denominations (the protestants and the Quakers) started duking it out to see who'd get to be top dog in the colonies (which was really bad for the Quakers seeing as the where devout pacifists. All this came to a head when the Quakers refused to pay a mandatory tithe tax while British press gangs roamed the American countryside forcing indentured servants into the British military. So, in America, a bunch of prisoners and religious refugees decided they had had enough BS from Britain, toppled British rule of the colonies, and attempted to set up a government that A. could not assign itself a religious position and B. could not create a criminal justice system run by the church. The founding of this country is a story of the epic failure of religion in politics and that is why the first amendment exists. Just because your devout doesn't mean that, put in the right circumstances, you can't see that religion and politics don't mix well.
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2015-06-10 13:11:05 UTC
hey don't forget. They just have their own religion. Just because a nation was founded on certain ideals, does not mean that it has to stay that way forever. Most Conservative Christians use this as an excuse to tell every other religion they're wrong and impose their lifestyle on other people. I remember. I do. I am a Muslim, but I remember. I know the root of this question. You aren't really curious about why people forget. You are curious about why everyone isn't like you.
◄WhoMe►
2015-06-05 21:24:58 UTC
America is not a conservative Christian nation, America has many different religions and the constitution in it's first amendment spells out clearly that the government can not dictate religion. As I am independent conservative, I am very afraid of people who believe that America is a conservative Christian nation.
?
2015-06-05 12:30:24 UTC
hey don't forget. They just have their own religion. Just because a nation was founded on certain ideals, does not mean that it has to stay that way forever. Most Conservative Christians use this as an excuse to tell every other religion they're wrong and impose their lifestyle on other people. I remember. I do. I am a Muslim, but I remember. I know the root of this question. You aren't really curious about why people forget. You are curious about why everyone isn't like you.
?
2015-06-03 20:36:54 UTC
They don't forget. They just have their own religion. Just because a nation was founded on certain ideals, does not mean that it has to stay that way forever. Most Conservative Christians use this as an excuse to tell every other religion they're wrong and impose their lifestyle on other people. I remember. I do. I am a Muslim, but I remember. I know the root of this question. You aren't really curious about why people forget. You are curious about why everyone isn't like you.
mkendrickj
2015-06-09 16:06:23 UTC
Um, wow. Where to start? How about this. The fact that officially the United States does not proclaim or endorse a specific religion does not negate that fact that throughout the vast majority of America's existence, both before and after the nations formal founding, it's history and culture have been dominated by Christian believers and beliefs. It's really that simple. All it's founders, yes even the deists, were Christians to one degree or another. Why is this fact so distasteful to so many people? I don't get it.
?
2015-07-02 05:15:30 UTC
The founding fathers are so revered that we tend to see our best traits reflected in them. I m assuming the asker must be a conservative Christian himself. It s easy to pick and choose the traits from them. I could pull out all sorts of quotes and tidbits. Like this:



“Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, then that of blindfolded fear.”

~Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787



Does that mean Thomas Jefferson wasn t Christian? Does that mean our nation wasn t meant to be Christian? I wouldn t guess based on that quote alone. Unless you ve devoted your life to the study of the American History, it s hard to get an overall sense of what the culture was like. Yes, it was mostly Christian at that time. But the details of that, the way that evolved, and exactly how you define "conservative Christian" aren t so easy to define.



The asker hasn t said it, but I assume the next assumption is that we were meant to be a conservative Christian nation. The founding fathers may have been Christian, and that may have influenced their work, but they realized that we needed a separation of church and state. It s right there in the first amendment. They didn t intend us to be any religion.



In school, I was taught that the founding fathers tried to build a Constitution and Bill of Rights that would last. They knew it would be applied to things they couldn t begin to imagine. So whether or not the founding fathers would approve of what we do isn t really the issue. After all, they owned slaves.



Also, "conservative Christian" probably meant something else in those days. It may not have been part of the lexicon.



You could argue that by its very definition the nation has become less conservative, doing radical things like freeing slaves or giving women the right to vote.



Basically it s not such a black and white issue.
?
2015-06-04 23:19:59 UTC
Show me where in the constitution where it states our country is a Christian nation. Better yet, show me where the word god is even mentioned. Show me any scripture, bible verse, or anything based on religion in the constitution. Tell me why our founding fathers said freedom of religion meaning we can have or not have any religion we want and worship any god, gods or no gods if this was suppose to be a Christian nation? To be a Christian nation our forefathers would have insisted your god be front and center in establishing this country and make sure it was always present and forced upon us. It's not, so you're wrong. Since they left England because of church rule, they DIDN'T want this country dominated or represented by any religion. They wanted and achieved our government as secular. As to some Christian influences, the bible was the only book many knew or had. Religion was all they knew and understood. Majority of those who came to this country did believe in god . It's only logical that it will be present in some form. But it's not the basis of the advent of our country. It's simply the influx of Christians in high positions who could establish their religion onto others. It's the majority of those that were Christian who wanted it to be a Christian nation and tried to establish it as such. Still do. But it's not gonna happen.



Update to Jeancommunicates:

. The notable exception is found in the Signatory section, where the date is written thusly: "Seventeenth Day of September in the Year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and Eighty seven". The use of the word "Lord" here is not a religious reference, however. This was a common way of expressing the date, in both religious and secular contexts. This lack of any these words does not mean that the Framers were not spiritual people, any more than the use of the word Lord means that they were. What this lack of these words is expositive of is not a love for or disdain for religion, but the feeling that the new government should not involve itself in matters of religion. In fact, the original Constitution bars any religious test to hold any federal office in the United States.
?
2015-06-09 12:48:03 UTC
Anyone who says it was not a conservative Christian nation has no clue what they're talking about. Fact is when America was first created white European Christians were only ones allowed to become citizens. So yes it was originally a conservative Christian nation and anyone who says otherwise doesn't know American history.
?
2015-06-03 20:38:54 UTC
Because that isn't true. The founders weren't even all Christians. Three of them were Deists. Here is some factual information:



"The U.S. Bill of Rights was influenced by George Mason's 1776 Virginia Declaration of Rights, the 1689 English Bill of Rights, works of the Age of Enlightenment pertaining to natural rights, and earlier English political documents such as the Magna Carta (1215)."



Also, think about why the founders believed the very first thing to be addressed was freedom from and of religion as found in the First Amendment. It's a bold statement that set us apart from any other type of existing government.



Amendment I (1): Freedom of religion, speech, and the press; rights of assembly and petition

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
?
2015-06-09 08:37:33 UTC
So America which is led by a President that some Conservatives feel is a Muslim is a Christian nation. And is a Conservative nation that had a two term Democratic President. I think many Conservatives would argue the points that you made.
Diogenes
2015-06-06 08:02:26 UTC
Bunkum! The Unifted States of America was founded by intellectual Deists who made a particular point of guaranteeing that neither Christianity, nor any other religion, would never become an integral part of government. No doubt, there have always been many Christian citizens, but their superstitious religious beliefs have always been denied governmental legal status. Thomas Jefferson's great compromise guaranteed each person the right to believe as they please, while simultaneously insuring religious superstitions would never achieve the legal authority they once enjoyed under European Church-sanctioned monarchies. Jefferson clearly understood the distinction between citizens having the right to worship as they please and organized religious authorities using their power to oppress an entire civilization.



The United States has always valued intellectual and ethnic diversity and has never been a "Christian nation," conservative or otherwise.
Lucas
2015-06-04 23:33:17 UTC
America's "conservatism" was radical, liberal, ideology to the rest of the world. Btw, it's wrong to call American a "Christian nation." Church and state are separate for a reason. America is home to multiple religions. For there to be peace, the nation has to remain unbiased. Which I'm happy with because that also means that the government can't be Muslim or christian. Trust me, you might think a Christian government would be a good thing but you can't imagine how bad that would be.
GI
2015-06-04 16:50:01 UTC
Nobody has forgotten that America WAS a conservative Christian nation. However, consistent with the Saul Alinsky "Rules for Radicals" instructions on how to create a socialist society, both Christians and conservatives are routinely mocked and marginalized by the Left to diminish them so that a socialist society dependent on the government may emerge in its place.



Democrats/Liberals/Progressives/Socialists knew that self-reliant strong Christian families weren't going to vote for them, so they set out to change this. In the 1960s those who did not like society as it was were called "counterculturalists" or hippies. Now, they are our democrat leaders. Knowing they were then in the minority, they sought to change society by taking over the tools of influence: Academia and Media. Why do you think public education, universities, and mainstream media are all overwhelmingly self described as liberal? They use their platforms to re indoctrinate your kids. Based upon Obama's re election, it would appear that they are winning the culture war for the soul of America and achieving their objective of a helpless needy dependent population that surrenders freedom inn exchange for government delivered largesse and solutions to life's problems. Don't want to stay healthy and select your own insurance? The government will do it. Planning for your retirement too hard? Trust the government. Not making enough money? Let the government re distribute some your way...
Nancy
2015-06-05 09:43:43 UTC
They are not forgeting they are ignoring the Christian principles of the forefathers that came from England set up as the foundational doctrine America is founded on. Now people are changing the very cornerstone of how America came to be the United States. OBAMA is the worst President who has no respect for why America was founded on the Declaration of Independence and is doing everything while in office to destroy our very foundation. He is not favored and the Christian faith is alive and well in America, there just are not enough people willing to stand up against the atheist and others who are willing to throw all these values away.
jimdragontech
2015-06-05 11:43:56 UTC
A number of people have pointed to the main difference with the religious viewpoint of the U.S. especially when compared to other nations of that time.

Most of those nations had their own state version of ' approved' christanity.

Freedom of and from religion as considered in the constitution

was mainly to prevent the creation of the church of the united states..

All of the foinding fathers were well aware of the very serious contributions to the revolution as well.

It was not just one group of women who contributed such items as homemade gunpowder, but an amazing set of women from ladies sewing circles, to catholic nuns to jewish womens groups.

All of these are in the historical record.

At that point in time, while true tolerance may have been questionable, the unferstanding of the need to work together or fail together was clearly understood even by the average person on the street who supported the revolution.

The enyire idea of the founding fathers being ( modern) conservativve christianis is a created myth from the ' religious right' of the mid 1980s.
Marc
2015-06-07 16:32:44 UTC
Americas was NEVER a "Conservative Christian Nation." And anyone that thinks it was is either uneducated, illiterate, or intellectually impaired. Which are you?

Our founding fathers were at best Deists. and believed strongly that religion had no place in politics. The Founding Fathers declared King George III's rule to be tyrannical and infringing the colonists' "rights as Englishmen", the Continental Congress declared the colonies free and independent states in July 1776. The Patriot leadership professed the political philosophies of liberalism to reject monarchy and aristocracy, and proclaimed that all men are created equal. The Founding Fathers, also, rarely practiced Christian orthodoxy. Although they supported the free exercise of any religion, they understood the dangers of religion. Most of them believed in deism and attended Freemasonry lodges. According to John J. Robinson, “Freemasonry had been a powerful force for religious freedom.” Freemasons took seriously the principle that men should worship according to their own conscience. Masonry welcomed anyone from any religion or non-religion, as long as they believed in a Supreme Being. George Washington, Ben Franklin, John Hancock, Alexander Hamilton, Lafayette, and many others accepted Freemasonry.
Andy F
2015-06-04 17:09:27 UTC
No, the United States was partly founded by Deists -- eg John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, and Tom Paine, among them. Also, the Founding Fathers included at least one Jew.



The Bill of Rights to the Constitution, authored by Jefferson but quickly approved as amendments to the original document, specify that Congress shall make "no law" respecting the establishment of religion.



The truth therefore is that the United States was founded as a nation with NO established religion, Christian or otherwise. And there was a logical reason for this that even many American Christians eagerly accepted.



The Founding Fathers, including many who were Christian, were well aware of the brutal "wars of religion" between Catholics & Protestants that devastated many European countries -- including France, England and Germany -- during the Protestant Reformation & Catholic Counter-Reformation of the 1500s and 1600s.



Many of the early American colonists -- for example, the Pilgrims & Puritans of Massachusetts, the Catholics of Maryland, and the Quakers of Pennsylvania -- were themselves refugees from religious intolerance and/or religious persecution in England.



The founding fathers were therefore aware that when religious groups can call on the State -- Big Government -- to say what religion is the "right" one, the result can be violent religious persecution and the martyrdom of innocent believers whose faith is not approved by the majority.



Keeping the US officially secular was a way to ensure religious freedom for everyone - including America's Puritans and Pilgrims, Catholics and Quakers, Episcopalians & Baptists & Jews. Today the same system of "secular" government also preserves the religious freedoms of Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh Day Adventists, Christian Scientists, Amish, Native Americans, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Wiccans and atheists.



Here in the USA -- thanks to God, or thanks to the luck of history -- every individual has the liberty to relate to God in a way that the individual finds acceptable. If there is indeed a God, then God rules over the individual conscience -- the government does not get involved.
Art
2015-06-04 10:52:35 UTC
Probably because it's a good idea to forget. America was founded for economic reasons , not for religious reasons. How many Puritans are in power today? Or Quakers for that matter.

The people who founded the USA were basically Episcopalian or in other words , Church of England or Anglican. The answer is no the US was not founded on Christian ideals , it was founded on economic reasons and religious FREEDOM, believe what you want , though it may have been intended to mean the Judeo- Christian god it includes all others ( except native American, for which I cite Wounded Knee).
?
2015-06-05 22:13:25 UTC
This might have been the case 300 years ago, but you have to face reality, and come to terms with the fact that Modern America consists of more than just Christian conservatives.



Christian conservatives aren't the only breed of people in America.
Jake No Chat
2015-06-09 04:33:46 UTC
Many people do not have accurate or good recollection of US History, or are even good at general world geography. America was never a Christian nation. The Founding Fathers took appropriate steps when they framed the Constitution, Bill of Rights etc to specifically separate church and state, to make no specific stand on any one religion, and to stress the freedom and the rights of all the citizens. They were very wise people and they learned from others that had suppressive and unfair governments.
?
2015-06-05 21:15:45 UTC
America was only a conservative Christian nation because the majority of the population was conservative Christian. America was founded for freedom of belief. That is another reason that gays should have their rights.
?
2015-06-08 00:07:51 UTC
President Washington laid the cornerstone of the U.S. Capitol in the building's southeast corner on September 18, 1793, with Masonic ceremonies. Every square inch was mathematically thought out and built

according to the plans of their beliefs .The American people were not aware of this , and had nothing to do with that concept .I think over 80% of the US citizens are Christians at this point in time .For example the

Washington Monument is 555 ' 1/8 " tall and 111 ' under ground .and 900 ' from what ? The Capital wasn't designed by Christians ....
william
2015-06-04 08:43:08 UTC
Problem with Christians is They always steal other Peoples achievements and claim them as their own. You've always crawled in long after the the Roughnecks and Scalawags have done the dirty work and when everything was nicely settled and safe You crawl out of Your holes and claim it was You who did it all. Truth is Your'e just along for the ride. This applies to Canada and America and Mexico and all of South America and everywhere else the Europeans went during the 1500s-1600s -1700s Like Hyenas You follow the real Lions and Tigers and after They finish You claim the leftovers as being Your's.
ThatGuy
2015-06-03 20:35:55 UTC
What are you talking about silly goose. America was founded on the ideals from the Enlightenment and the Articles of Confederation then replaced by the Constitution and the Constitution has freedom of religion and from it. Meaning that this is not a Christian Nation but just Christian majority. If you do not believe me read the Treaty of Tripoli. I do not know what you mean by Christian ideals either bud. Majority of religions have the ideals not to steal or kill etc. You might need to clarify that.
sophieb
2015-06-04 02:39:54 UTC
America was founded on Christian principles.

Seems to me that "conservative" meant different things over the years, so in what way are you asking about "conservative". Once it meant civil, as in a civil nation. Once it meant to be conservative one wore suits and dark clothes. Conservative, if you're meaning the republican party, well one place I heard of was called southern democrats.

Anyway, months ago (maybe it's been a year or so now) our president said it was no longer a christian nation....but what does he know about that?
2015-06-05 14:10:11 UTC
Over half of the signers of the Declaration of Independence had some form of Divinity School Training! We have Unalienable rights given to us by God! God wants man to have freedom of will and spirit which was respected and implemented as best as the writers and signers could. We are a blessed people in America and we must thank God every day!



Remember there were 2 beginnings to America, Plymouth and Jamestown. The former was a group seeking religious freedom while the latter was here to seek riches. Sounds like America today!
auty
2015-06-09 10:16:53 UTC
It seems everyone is forgetting that America was stolen from us indians or Native Americans as the politically correct say. However, after us it was settled by.....settlers, farmers, cowboys etc. Move up the timeline, you'll get to when it became what some call a Christian nation although it was never that. A diversity of religions as the constitution allows. Saul Alinsky's niece was translating his works into English (I studied him in sociology) he all but named Obama. All the problems we have now can be found in his books, only Obama's name isn't there.
?
2015-06-05 16:49:40 UTC
If America was founded as a conservative Christian nation, why wasn't it Catholic?



America's Founders were Deists and Dissenters, hardly conservatives.
viablerenewables
2015-06-05 11:43:55 UTC
LEFTISM is taught in school for the last 100 years at an accelerated rate for the last 40 years. Hippies are now the professors. America being started as conservative & a Christian nation doesn't fit their dream of creating a Utopia. Their Utopia is the NANNY STATE not the American Experiment where the individual was glorified, because of the responsibility they took for their future.
2015-06-06 11:42:20 UTC
America was NOT founded on Christian principles alone. Some Christian principles are within elements of the general ideals for which this nation was founded on however, the overall aspects for which this nation was founded on was that of freedom. And there are several Christian principles that conflict such ideas that would coincide with freedom and pursuit of happiness. I really do find it appalling that any citizen born on this soil for some reason think this is a "Christian nation" and that all principles of this nation were founded on Christian ideals. The founding fathers themselves mostly consisted of free thinkers.
Evan
2015-06-10 07:09:29 UTC
sorry but this country was founded on freedom from the Church. The pilgrams left England because of how much power the church had. Most of the quotes people atribute to founding fathers about religion in politics specifically those about Christianity are either totally made up or said by other people and re assinged to them. Its a well documented and established fact that the founding fathers sought a nation of a government that is free from religion, not a government that answers to conservitive christians
tehabwa
2015-06-03 20:36:57 UTC
Because that is completely untrue. America was the most liberal idea in history. The defining document, the Constitution, specifically prohibits the government from forcing any ideology or religion on citizens.



It has NEVER been true that all people here have been Christian.



No, it was not founded on Christian ideals at all. It was founded on Enlightenment ideals. Christian ideals have no place for any form of democracy, or religious freedom.



You are completely confused.
Jack Shepherd
2015-06-09 22:41:38 UTC
Now I may be sounding like the trolls I hate, but why do you care if people "forget" or remember? All societies must progress or die out. Should we burn women for witchcraft, as our conservative Christian forefathers did? Should we torture people till they proclaim to love Jesus, as they did in conservative Christian (Catholic) Spain centuries before that? Progressivism stands for compassion and inclusion, and those two things are never bad, no matter what religion you think that does or doesn't jive with.
Chris
2015-06-04 13:40:49 UTC
No, they do not forget what never was: in point of fact, America was built as a resistance to conservative Christianity in the form of King George III, the British and Tory Loyalists. The US was founded by Freemasons who wrote Freedom of Religion into the Constitution. Many non-Christians fought for Independence and many non-Christians continue to fight for American Freedom to this very day.
RjKardo
2015-06-11 01:42:42 UTC
People cannot forget something that never was...

The US was never a Christian nation, it is and has always been a nation that is predominately populated by Christians, but that is not the same as a "Christian Nation".



To support this contention, why not just check what the founding fathers put not only in writing, but in legal documents and voted on?



In the Treaty of Peace and Friendship with Tripoli, we find the following as Article 11:

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.



That first part is very clear, and placed not in a letter to a friend or newspaper; it is in a legal treaty which was negotiated, passed by Congress and signed by the US president.

So taken directly from the founding fathers of the USA:

"the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion"

From Wikipedia:

It was submitted to the Senate by President John Adams, receiving ratification unanimously from the U.S. Senate on June 7, 1797, and signed by Adams, taking effect as the law of the land on June 10, 1797.
Donald
2015-06-06 07:31:28 UTC
Many people are referencing the constitution for the answer to say we are not a Christian nation when you should look to the Mayflower compact to see that the nation was founded on the belief in bring Christianity as the founding principal. So the establishment of the first colony was for the Christian faith and honor.

The country was established with Christian doctrines in it laws and foundation. We have allowed this to be changed over time because the court system has failed in its job to rule by the constitution as understood by the founding fathers. An example is the reference to the letter from Jefferson to the Baptist church on separation of church and state. When Monroe who wrote the constitution stated that the state can not dictate to the church what to do, but the church is to impact the state in its rules and working.
Mr. Smartypants
2015-06-03 20:34:37 UTC
Nope. Not even close. After watching Europeans slaughter each other over religion for centuries, our founding fathers wanted religious freedom, separation of Church and State. Several of our colonies were founded EXPRESSLY for the main purpose of religious freedom!



Thomas Jefferson picked three major accomplishments (of ALL his accomplishments!) to be carved on his tombstone. One was writing the Declaration of Independence. The second was founding the University of Virginia--the first SECULAR university in the New World, perhaps the whole world--in Jefferson's own words 'A university centered around a library, not a church'. And the third was the Virginia Statute of Religious Freedom, which he wrote as a member of the Virginia House of Burgesses. If you take the (small) trouble of looking it up, it explains in remarkably few words just how he felt about religion in government.
Georgia
2015-06-04 05:22:52 UTC
America was founded as a NON SECULAR nation (ie. no "GOD Bless America" in GOVERNMENT sayings).

people from England who wanted to escape the harsh, conservative, religious British government came here.

so America was technically founded as non religious (though a lot of the people were religious, but weren't required to be by the government).

As far as conservative, that changes with the times. You wouldn't expect to see people in George Washington's time wearing crop tops and jamming out to rap and pop and spending ridiculous amounts of money on entertainment and amusement.
Shawn Robin
2015-06-04 08:54:57 UTC
Don't be ridiculous, child.

Heaven is a Kingdom not a republic. God is a King, not an elected president.

One look at any Bible proves the American Revolution was treasonous rebellion against God Himself:



"Fear the Lord and the king, my son, and do not join with rebels."

-Proverbs 24:21



"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment."

-Romans 13:1-2



"Remind them to be subject to rulers, to authorities, to be obedient, to be ready for every good deed, to malign no one, to be peaceable, gentle, showing every consideration for all men."

-Titus 3:1-2



"Obey your leaders and submit to them, for they are keeping watch over your souls, as those who will have to give an account. Let them do this with joy and not with groaning, for that would be of no advantage to you."

-Hebrews 13:17



The Bible also commands believers to do other things America's founders went against God to do.

i.e.: Thou Shalt Not Steal, Covet, Murder, etc.

Which early Americans incontrovertibly did when they seized control of Britain's Thirteen Colonies for themselves and killed law-abiding British citizens and soldiers in a bloody Revolution to keep what they'd stolen.



That's not what God told anyone to do:



"Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, honour your father and mother, and love your neighbour as yourself."

-Matthew 19:18



"Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbour as yourself.'"

-Luke 10:27



America's founding fathers were clearly against God. They created their country to be against God.

The Revolution is incontrovertible proof of that.

And so are other things, like their 1797 Treaty of Tripoli:



"...the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."



Anyone who thinks the US was/is a Christian nation (or ever meant to be one) is downright ignorant or completely delusional.



If you want to live in a Christian nation, you'll have to renounce your US citizenship and go immigrate to one.

And should, because like the Good Book says:



"Do not be bound together with unbelievers; for what partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? Or what harmony has Christ with the devil?"

-2 Corinthians 6:14-15



How can people forget something that America never, ever was?

Like Jesus said: "Why do you call me 'Lord, Lord' and do not do what I say?"

The entire history of America from its founding to present day has been spent NOT doing what God says.

NOT doing what God commands isn't Christian. It's anti-Christian. And no amount of whining or denials by Americans can or does change the truth of all that.
Miles from Michigan!!
2015-06-05 12:42:52 UTC
Yes America was founded with a Christian foundation!!! from then to now, America has attracted other less Godly religions and one that doesn't believe in God at all!! all demanding equal religious rights!!

Christians have turned the other cheek, but there only so many you can turn!!!!
?
2015-06-04 13:17:18 UTC
John Adams said that the Constitution was formed for the government of Christians or moral men, and if America ever ceased to be Christian, the country would fall. As the society unravels and rots from the core, watch as the constitution is chipped away and twisted into something the framers would never recognize, until evil men have all the rights, and Christians are the crazy ones.
2015-06-04 01:44:49 UTC
Founded on the principle of freedom and equality of all persons, having been given inalienable rights, to , life , liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That everyman, is equal under the law , the people have the power not the government. These ideas so radical that it took a few generations and then some to realize freedom for all. Man, woman, free or slave. Then set the oversight of the government and how the government process works ,and why there should be limits of power , and that the people control the government , not the opposite. Due process, congress, presidential power, statehood and the limits of Federal power . Amendments and civil rights, etc,. The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution of The United States.

Americans , patriots, etc,. were tried of the class rule of England, taxes without representation, and the tyranny of the British Army that was unleashed against free thinkers, publishers of heretical ideas of freedom from Britain, . Those first American were some B.A people who believed in God, freedom , equality , freedom of choice, freedom of state and church, etc,.General Washington never took leave of his troops. Not once did he take time off to go home . He stayed with his troops to keep them encouraged, so they knew he knew how they suffered from hunger and cold. etc,. He prayed often and nothing short of miracles happened that allowed the fledgling U.S. colonists to win a war of freedom from Britain , and send the red coats packing.

For some reason, high school, public school does not require a U.S. civics class as a requirement for graduation credits.
ftfisher4x4
2015-06-04 06:22:34 UTC
Nothing to forget. The US was never, and is not, a Christian nation. People came here looking to get away from a close relationship between the monarchy and the Church of England. We are a Republic, a nation of secular laws, not a theocracy.
☯≈♥∞☼
2015-06-04 09:00:00 UTC
Treaty of Tripoli 1796

"ARTICLE 11.

As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."







So there you go. This country, from the beginning, was not founded on, upon, or from religion; This country was founded by people who may have had religious views but they were wise enough to be tolerant of all religions and smart enough to know how bad it is to have an entire country founded upon, or ruled by, religion.
?
2015-06-05 18:16:32 UTC
Why do people like you forget that America was founded by liberals who broke away from a conservative royalty who took rights away from its subjects? If you think liberals were the ruling upper classes of the English crown, can you please let me know where these people are. A liberal, progressive nation believed in the consent of the governed; not King George. By the way, stay out of the bedroom, the doctor's office and city hall.
Minetto
2015-06-05 18:08:00 UTC
America was founded on religious fredom and America has forgotten that and no longer cares if you cold see the changes on school teacheings of American hestroy over the last 50 years you would vary clearly see the Devil's work in the details and how our children have been tought to forget the past
?
2015-06-10 07:50:32 UTC
Yes, taking people from their homelands and making them slaves and beating them and killing them along with making people move from their native lands or be killed....yes that was the Christian way. Good Christians do things like this...so yes to your question, America was in fact a conservative Christian nation.
Radical Marxist
2015-06-05 02:20:13 UTC
People probably forget it because of the fact that Americans for the most part don't live according to biblical morality. Most Americans have premarital sex which is considered a big sin in Christianity. Less than half the people are in church on any given Sunday.
okiknowit
2015-06-08 08:18:39 UTC
Truly, at the time of its founding, only White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Men who owned real estate could vote, and most of the founders were conservative Christians who owned slaves and did not have running water or indoor plumbing. But that doesn t mean that America should restore things the way they were in the 18th Century.



The founders provided in the First Amendment that this would be a secular nation, with no official religion, because they had seen the havoc and wars that religion had caused in Europe, and did not want the same to happen here.
Danforth
2015-06-05 12:36:03 UTC
The whole reason the USA even exists is because the Separatists in England fled to North America to escape religious persecution. When the first founding fathers started the country, most of them were Free Masons, which is an organization that is "Deist" but non-denominational. They felt that whatever God or religion you chose to believe was fine, and that a man was judged by his actions, not his personal life. Benjamin Franklin was quite the womanizer, too.



It was actually only about 50-60 years ago that there was a big push by the Christian Church to start having a strangle-hold on the US. During that time-period, "Under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance, in addition to "In God We Trust" on US money. This was NEVER the intention of the Founding Fathers.
?
2015-06-10 15:52:23 UTC
The short answer is yes America was founded on Christian beliefs the long answer is it is more complicated then that. We should never forget the past but not every founding father was a Christian. The idea of religious freedom for all.
thegreatone
2015-06-06 17:02:30 UTC
America was NEVER a Christian nation. America was NOT founded on Christian principles.



There has NEVER been any such thing as a Christian nation. NO nation was founded on Christian principles.
?
2015-06-10 20:59:26 UTC
Religion was never mentioned in the Constitution for a reason. It was left out on purpose by the founding fathers. A lot of the people who fled from Europe in search of religious freedom. It's the basis of the 1st Amendment in the Bill of Rights. You have to allow society to evolve and people and "tradition" to evolve with it, not just stick with whatever is the most Christian because they're the presumed majority.
Old Gamer 56
2015-06-06 19:11:55 UTC
American was "founded" by conservative Christians? America was stolen by these people from the real Native Americans who practiced a glorious Pantheistic paganism on this continent, in complete harmony with nature, for two thousand years before the Conservative Christians showed up and stole it from them. Over 500 treaties were made with the American Indians, and every last one of them was broken by these "conservative Christians." They did it for their own personal advantage and personal gain.

Get off your high horse.
Pat
2015-06-07 18:40:43 UTC
The United States of America was never a conservative Christian country. It was always meant to offer freedom of religion. Some of the Declaration of Independence signers were atheists and/or agnostics.. Their desire was for everyone to be free to worship as they please. And, I might add it is not freedom "from" religion, but "of" religion. All religions are to be accepted. I might also add that radically conservative Christians are no more pleasing to God than are radically conservative Muslims. We all share this planet and need to be good examples, not judges of each other's beliefs and practices.
?
2015-06-11 09:55:39 UTC
Well, it was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs, but there was also the right to freedom of religion. And since that was in place, the culture started to shift away from the original ideas and beliefs, and other religions began to spread, which is pretty natural. It's not that people forget, it's just because things have changed and the past, in this situation, isn't very relevant anymore. It's the present and future that people worry about.
Christopher M
2015-06-09 21:28:06 UTC
I'm not really into religion, and don't have a clue if that's true, but even if it was, what's the big deal? So not every American's a Christian. A lot of us are still about the basic ideals of christianity, even if we don't practice the religion. You know, be good to your neighbor, work hard, be a good person, all that jazz.
paula
2015-06-06 12:05:49 UTC
This is still true as far I know this nation is white christen conservative nation. We have many other different races ethic group we must learn to live together or we will not live. Please get rid of isis and rest of them or we may not live, Pres Obama is wrong in his thinking I can not wait until he gone from office He was and is a bad choice for the head of Country,
Stupid Name
2015-06-11 11:26:51 UTC
WTF? Really?! America is still conservative Christian nation! I grew up Roman Catholic. Why do Catholics try to play the 'whipping boy'? Jeez... you sound like my Grandparents.



If you want to get technical- The first white settlers to start the ball as America (as we know) called themselves Puritans. We are taught in school they wanted religious freedom. This is only half true. The Puritans were a separatist group of English Protestants that wanted to "puritfy" the English church. They thought it was getting too lack. They followed Roman Catholic practices, but part of the hardcore inquisition-type rules & punishments. They'd make terrorist shake their heads. We're talking punishments like torture where even if you said whatever they wanted to hear (thinking they'd stop) you'd just die a man/ child or women of God.



Now if you mean just conservative religious views, you'd be more correct. Good ol' George Washington was Anglican English Christian. After the war with the Brits he was Episcopalian. Ben Franklin & Thomas Jefferson started Christian, but after the war became a Deist (believing in God but not conforming to any religion's so called bibles or canons.



Currently America is (as of a poll in 2008) 70% some form of Christian/ 18% Hebrew/ 4% Athiest/ 5% Hindy/ 2% Islamic/ 1% Other.



So any attacks on Christiany, Christmas or other attacks is one of the dumbest things to state.



IMHO get some friends from other religions. Don't take offense when they don't say Merry Christmas or pray the way you were raised. Be happy, be kind.... and if you want to go Bible- Ephesians 4:2, Proverbs 16:24 or 1Peter 3:8-11
?
2015-06-04 01:54:17 UTC
Because it isn't and it wasn't. Ever.

The text of the first amendment says, "congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..."

It doesn't say, "congress shall abide by Christian laws." It doesn't say, "Congress shall make no law prohibiting non-Christian religions." It says, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion."

That means no churches of any faith will have laws requiring you to contribute to them or even give a crap about them. It is not JUST about the Church of England being a political power, or escaping the stranglehold of the Holy Roman Empire. It is about, "secular affairs should be secular affairs," without barring individuals the right to practice religion as they see fit in their own home. The point of the first amendment was that you can practice any religion you'd like, so long as you keep it to your private life and don't try to involve it in your government. Which is not at all what modern Christians are trying to do lately. You guys are the ones who forgot where you came from.
Tom John
2015-06-09 03:55:34 UTC
Let me just say America is not God's.... Evey thing is gods the us the uk everywhere.I will say this lot's of people get really mad these days when you mention god back in the 90s these kind of things were barely asked. Heres a my question to people who hate religion. Y Christianity even if you are right about there is no god then the worst thing that can happen is I will just die.but what if im right
?
2015-06-10 04:18:23 UTC
No, this country was founded because we didn't want to be ruled by a monarchy. The government was set up to be separate from the church. We were never supposed to be a 'christian' nation. We are a free nation that is supposed to value freedom, not slavery to christiandom.
Araktsu
2015-06-04 21:26:58 UTC
Your question: "Why do people forget that America was a conservative Christian nation?"

Your question: "Wasn't America founded on Christian ideals [?]"

Your statement followed by a question mark: "God bless America"?"

_____________________________________

Your premise:

America [the United States] was a conservative Christian nation, whatever that means.



Your evidence:

Nothing.



Your conclusion:

America [the United States] was a conservative Christian nation, whatever that means.

_____________________________________

One down, one to go.



Your premise:

America [the United States] was founded on Christian ideals.



Your evidence:

Nothing.



Your conclusion:

America [the United States] was founded on Christian ideals.

_____________________________________

Your modus operandi:

Begging the question, "Please bleieve that the United States was founded on Christian ideals and was a conservative Christian nation."

• http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Begging_the_question



No, not without proof, and not so long as your request contradicts both history and the Constitution of the United States:



“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” -- First Amendment to the United States Constitution



That law was not an accident. The guys who wrote the First Amendment did so to avoid more of this:



"The European wars of religion were a series of religious wars waged in Europe from ca. 1524 to 1648, following the onset of the Protestant Reformation in Western and Northern Europe. Although sometimes unconnected, all of these wars were strongly influenced by the religious change of the period, and the conflict and rivalry that it produced."

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_wars_of_religion



And this:



"The divine right of kings, or divine-right theory of kingship, is a political and religious doctrine of royal and political legitimacy. It asserts that a monarch is subject to no earthly authority, deriving the right to rule directly from the will of God."

• http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_right_of_kings



As anyone aware of international news can see, aside for the usual domineering greed, nationalism, and megalomania, the most obvious reason people are killing others in more or less continuous warfare, why they are committing mass murder, is because of sectarian intolerance within Islam and inter-faith intolerance between Islam and what Muslims consider to be infidels.



The guys who wrote the U.S. Constitution were also aware of Islam. There was an Ottoman Empire at that time and other Muslim powers. Islam was not their major concern but rather the European Wars of Religion and other sectarian intolerance that had plagued Europe in the recent past relative to their own time.



Your undefined terms:

Christian ideals

conservative



They may mean something to you but they are terms of political and religious propaganda that in context of you questions vary in meaning from user to user.



Educate yourself. You will be pleased with the result:



• Where we live:

“Geosystems: An Introduction to Physical Geography” Christopherson, Robert. (Prentice Hall)

• Where we came from:

“Introduction to Physical Anthropology” Jurmain/Kilgore/Trevathan/Ciochon. (Cengage Learning)

• What we have been doing:

“History of the World” Roberts, J.M.; Westad, O.A. (Oxford University Press: 2013)

“A History of the Arab Peoples” (of Islam) Hourani, Albert. (Harvard University Press: 2002)
?
2015-06-04 02:46:53 UTC
Very easy. When i go to church i wish my neighbour peace. Is America peace? I dont think so. For every outsider America stands for hate , war and dollars . Maybe im wrong but is that a Christian nation ?
Crocoduck
2015-06-03 20:40:43 UTC
Many of the founding fathers didn't identify with the Judeo-Christian faith at all, such as Thomas Jefferson for example, who was a diest. Even though some identified with the Christian faith, it doesn't mean they intended for religion to be mixed with politics. There is nothing in the constitution, declaration of independence, or any similar documents making such a statement, and the treaty of Tripoli from the time clearly states "the US is not, in any sense, established upon the Christian faith".
Special EPhex
2015-06-09 22:01:54 UTC
Historically and generally speaking you're correct. However, I see it a bit more complex than how most people see it. The term "conservative" comes with a preconceived notion in the modern sense, and is often viewed as a "political" position. I believe it is supposed to imply a culture of traditional values unique to the historical progress of early America. Within the context of the times, America could be hardly considered "traditional" or "conservative". The beliefs and ideals that this country was built upon were actually considered quite radically liberal compared to the history of the rest of the world up until that point. The "American Vision" was thought to be a "pie-in-the-sky" idea that would not last a century.



Even in the sense of faith and religion, the Protestant's were taken to be very liberal compared to European tradition of Catholicism, a major reason why America was settled. During the developmental stages of America, although many of the founders and framers were largely Protestant Christians, they all had the wisdom of considering agreeing upon America of being a "Spiritual" Nation, rather than a "Religious" one. The Judeo-Christian faith lies at the core of our Founding, however other faiths were instrumental to the formation of the American Experiment, such that of the Iroquois Nation, which is often left out of the narrative of how the country came to be.



A close examination of the U.S. Constitution, Declaration of Independence, and Bill of Right, one can apparently see the foresight of the Founders emphasis on spiritual tenants almost every faith adheres to. Note how the documents refer to God as our "Creator" and not a specific "god" exclusive to a particular faith or religion. Rather than establishing a religious culture based on doctrine or dogmatic authority, America was meant to be tolerant and accepting of various faiths and beliefs, are largely guided by the Judeo-Christian principles and philosophies, although it was not always practiced.



The Constitution is very clear and specific about no faith being imposed or impeded upon, allow us the freedom to practice which ever faith we choose. The so called "separation of church and state", often mistaken to be cited in one of the three founding documents, is not mentioned in any of them, and was originally a statement used to describe the dynamic governing rule and religious authority. When asked about the subject by French, Thomas Jefferson, whom some credit the expression, replied, there appears to be a "wall" separating church and state, implying that religion does control the statehood of America, nor does the state interfere with religion. This does not suggest that there is not some degree of one in the other, which is typically the "straw man" in the "church/state" debate, and not relevant to the law.



Today, we are finding that increasing segments of the American population are accepting the traditional identity of America less, for a whole host of factors. What is "liberal" and what is "conservative", apparently, are relative to the times and where society is ideologically. It is natural for societies to have a reign of dominance under one ideology before a cultural, social or civil revolution changes the guard. The "forgetting" of the past and origins, usually a reminder of what society is trying to move away from, is a transitional stage between moving from one to another. Every generation gradually experiences an erosion of traditional culture and values as society evolves, and along the way there are sudden spikes of change with great magnitude that come along every so often, which speed that change up until it goes creeps back down to slow increments.



Society is commonly split whether the change is a good thing or a bad thing. I don't personally know. There are some changes I like and those I don't. I can't say one way or the other if we'll be better off. But I know, long ago, many rejected where America was headed, and I can't say it turned out so bad if I myself wish to return to the days of my youth now. Maybe it's just that I don't know any better, but who am I to say things wont be as good for future generations long after I am gone?
2015-06-03 21:10:09 UTC
Because America is turning into a land of sin. People are forgetting God. Like Las Vegas is full of sin. And I am not saying I hate gays. I am saying that it is not right it's just wrong. Sinning or being gay is like a part of a machine breaking and what the machine makes comes out wrong.
dar
2015-06-06 01:39:59 UTC
America was founded on the principle of God and Natural God Give rights! God and Guns are what established these principles! America is now under judgement because we have pushed God to the side and have allowed man made laws and tyrannical government dictate to us the laws we must follow. Our churches and pastors have been captured, and the blood from 56 million abortions is crying out from the land. God is allowing us to enter into bondage. America...land of the thieves, and the home of the slaves! What a shame! This is the thanks that we give our forefathers who fought and died for our soverenty. We are trading it for security. We will get neither. America was a Democratic Republic...now a hijacked Islamist Caliphate!
?
2015-06-10 12:15:02 UTC
Actually did you know that the republicans were liberal until the 20th century? The Democrats were conservative until around FDR. Yes, Lincoln could be compared to modern day democrats: believed in bigger government and more freedoms.



So by today's standards the founders would be considered ultra conservative (slaves and such) and to them any modern day conservative would be an extreme liberal.

Times change.
Mr.Longrove
2015-06-07 09:17:15 UTC
Yes, America WAS a Christian nation and I'd love to see America return to God. Now the country has turned her back on the one God of the Bible who made her great in the first place. And look at the big ugly mess America is in.

Everyone should watch this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeY4tct05O8
?
2015-06-07 20:37:13 UTC
Wrong! America was founded as a Republic, that we live by rules. In forming the Nation we were weary of religious rule and formed a government SEPARATE from the effects of religion! AND also granting every religion freedom to freely exist!
fandango
2015-06-04 17:35:00 UTC
True, America was conservative Christian, when it was under British rule.
2015-06-04 14:16:25 UTC
America was not founded on the basis of Christianity or a religion. However, the Founders strongly support Christianity and other religions in America.
Craig
2015-06-04 02:19:10 UTC
The United States of America was founded as a Secular State, the Government not to endorse nor prohibit religious belief.
?
2015-06-09 07:08:43 UTC
Back then, women could not vote. Neither could blacks, who were counted as 3/5 of a person though, for purposes of congressional numbers for each state's population...

Oh, and Puritans forbade dancing, and so-called Christians believed in demons and witches, and they burned some women at the stake for alleged witchcraft.

Does anyone want to go back to THAT ***** ?!
Cousin
2015-06-04 13:14:39 UTC
No, that is not true so there is not that to forget: The Christianity was left over from Europe in the Colonial Period and Colonists were actually rebelling against that and founding a country that had religious freedom.
?
2015-06-04 08:08:42 UTC
America never was, was never met to be and hopefully never will be a christian nation.

Anyone who thinks different is an illeterate moron who knows nothing about Americsn history

"God Bless America" was added when the US was already 175 years old
?
2015-06-11 07:58:08 UTC
Why do people forget that America is a secular nation?
Karl
2015-06-04 06:16:28 UTC
Why do Christians forget that our nation's laws and ideals are based on the written scripture of the Constitution of the United States?
Pancho
2015-06-08 19:51:21 UTC
Actually, no, the USA was NOT founded as a Christian nation. Why does everyone believe that?? Do some research. I'd give you some details here but I've done that so many times before ...
2015-06-05 09:37:06 UTC
Not all of them were Christians and even if they were, they all believed in religious freedom. So why would you use them to try to support one religion above all others? You're doing them a disservice by saying that this was a Christian nation.
2015-06-08 16:16:35 UTC
Being Christian has nothing to do with

being Conservative



many people are liberal Christians

I know Christian feel the need to be part of the government



But lies in the name of good, are not Christian values
johnnyd
2015-06-08 19:58:29 UTC
Read, read and read about the founding fathers beliefs about religion. Why on earth would they form a country with an established religion when the very reason people came to the new world was for religious freedom? Remember the Pilgrims? Right wing, GOP talking points based on no facts like usual.
?
2015-06-11 10:39:47 UTC
Europeans came to America to escape their religions. Even if it was a conservative Christian nation, what about the Bill of Rights? Freedom of Religion, etc?
Frankie
2015-06-08 04:37:42 UTC
Actually the Forefathers wrote the Constitution for the freedom of religion...though most were Deists at best and some were even Atheist



This is because most of the counties the different forefathers fled often had State religion (Government forced religion) so they made sure to emphasize the separation of Church and State so people could believe any religion they want ....or even none at all



The "Christian Nation" thing is politicians trying to please their constituents by pretending to be Christian(at least to their Christian voters)
David G
2015-06-11 13:10:52 UTC
This country was not founded under Christianity. It was founded by freemasons. George Washington was a mason along with most all of the people you hear about I.e. Ben Franklin.. The masons worship something that Christians hate. Themselves. They believe that humans can achieve God hood. This is against what Christians believe. Look at the back of a one dollar bill. The pyramid with the eye above it. This is loaded with Masonic symbology and is multi layered with meaning. Many say that the eye is the eye of Lucifer. This is misunderstood by Christians, because most masons define Lucifer as the light bearer or simply knowledge as being what can ultimately make us God. They believe through knowledge they can become illuminated (heard this before I.e. illuminati or illuminism). If this is too far fetched for you to believe, do a Google search on Lucifer and Washington dc. You can see that dc has many Masonic n LUCIFERIAN symbols built into the city design.cont http://pastebin.com/0FFc9kqz
2015-06-04 12:27:03 UTC
It wasn't, although the vast majority of her people were Christian at the time of the founding. And the tenets of the enlightenment cited by so many have their roots in Judeo-Christian belief, regardless of protestations to the contrary. Too many people are confusing belief and ethics with doctrine and religion.



Conservative chisristian, as we understand the terms nowadays? No. Enlightenment philospohies, engendered from Judeo-Christian beliefs, not a response to them? Sure.
2015-06-04 15:50:30 UTC
That must be why the leaders of the day had Thomas Jefferson draft the Declaration of Independence, and co-write the Constitution with John Adams... The same Thomas Jefferson whose zeal for conservative Christianity was so passionate that he famously wrote, in evident approval: "the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter."
jeffrcal
2015-06-10 15:03:18 UTC
No, America was founded on Enlightenment era ideas. Is this ringing a bell: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...".



Also, article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli states: "As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims]; and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries."



This treaty was signed and ratified during John Adams administration, one of our founding fathers.



In light of this I thing you are the one who has forgotten or never knew.
2015-06-04 18:20:12 UTC
Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims]; and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Muslim] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.



-G.W.
2015-06-13 15:17:30 UTC
Actually, America never has been a Christian religion. Read your Constitution, etc. Also, early Americans were hardly good Christians by any means, but if you told early Americans this wasn't a Christian nation they would have gone berserk. Separation of Church and State my friend.
yamnnjr
2015-06-04 18:07:52 UTC
They don't quite realize that liberalism back then is conservatism today. They think that because they call themselves liberals, even though they disagree almost entirely with liberals back then, that somehow means they agree with liberals back then. It's called "liberal logic."



As for Christianity, the Atheists have largely been successful in cherry-picking quotes, misrepresenting them, and fabricating quotes to illustrate the "agnosticism" of our founding fathers.



They completely dismiss the quotes that actually demonstrated their faith in Christ Jesus, and they also conveniently forget that for a nation to actually work, the people, who considered themselves Christian at that time, must be willing to make it work.
?
2015-06-04 07:37:27 UTC
Does it matter? One of the great ironies about the founding of America is that it was supposed to be based on liberty and fraternity for all. Etc. etc.

You then spent 120 years enslaving other nations to come and build your roads or your railways or work on your farms. Funny how the land of the free has never been so.
Grinning Football plinny younger
2015-06-04 12:48:36 UTC
Who said I forgot, I'm not sure which ideals you mean - the right to be a stricter Christians and not tolerate those who followed a Methodist faith for example - a lot of puritans left when the toleration act was signed, Quakers left because of persecution. To run a cotton business with its bibilicaly approved slaves.
?
2015-06-11 12:39:58 UTC
Yes! our Nation was founded on Christian Principals and our founding document: The Declaration f Independence, informs us that the whole and entire human race was endowed by their creator with certain inherent and inalienable natural rights, such as but not limited to: life, liberty, the pursuit of happenstance and the right to marry. Since the unborn baby can be considered a member of the human race it has, therefor a right to life and can, consequently be considered a person.
Deb
2015-06-08 18:12:54 UTC
Business of religion is important to those who are free and are not engage in any occupation. More the people remain busy in work they have less concerned and interest in religion. Furthermore, modern means of education is also responsible to erase the idea of neoconservative thought. All these opportunities is widely found in America these days.Thus, it made people to ignore the religious system, which made it to forget in American system.
Dr Yes level 9 since 1999
2015-06-06 12:07:32 UTC
England was the conservative Christian nation that our founding fathers rebelled against.
2015-06-04 14:08:48 UTC
There is nothing Christian about any conservative nation.
?
2015-06-08 16:30:33 UTC
America isn't a Christian nation nor was founded by Christian values. America truly belonged to the Native Americans and the "Christians" killed and took over their land. So...ask yourself why you believe in a religion that has nothing but blood, war, killing and "sin" in it? Yes your God loves but he loves you enough to send you to hell because you don't believe in HIM? What kind of being is that?
ryan
2015-06-09 01:56:30 UTC
No one has forgotten that America was a Conservative Christian nation, because that was never true in the first place. The idea of America being founded by "God fearing Christians" is Right Wing propaganda, because if they just admitted that they want to take away everything from the 99% of the country who control only 5% of the wealth, and give that to the 1% who already control 95%, and when that 1% screws up, take our tax dollars and give it to CEO's so that they can still get their $20 million bonuses, no one would vote for them. So they lie about the fact that Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Paine, and even George Washington, were Deists who did not believe in Jesus, let alone "Conservative Christian Values." So they try and make every campaign about how much they love Jesus, because it is the only thing that would ever make more than 5% of people in this country vote for them. So they use Jesus to serve the rich, and their own lust for power. The most frustrating part of all of this, is that people like the op appear to have forgotten everything about the religion that they claim to be to proud of, that they will vote against their own interests to "protect." We have political debates about prayer in Public School, The Ten Commandments in our courts, and Christian Monuments on State House grounds despite Jesus Himself telling us "And when you pray, you must not be like the hypocrites; for they love to stand and pray in the synagogues and at the street corners, that they may be seen by men. Truly, I say to you they have received their reward. But when you pray, go into your closet and shut the door and pray to your Father who is in secret..." (Matthew 6:5-6) Oh and let us not forget the tax breaks for the wealthy when Jesus told us "Truly I say to you, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. 24"Again I say to you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." So why are all these "Conservative Christians" so insistent that the rich should get to keep their money instead of paying taxes like us poor people? "Conservative Christian America" is a lie, and so are the "Christian Values" the right preaches at us about. They just don't have any other way to get poor people to vote for them, and there are way more poor people than rich.
JanessaBess
2015-06-08 10:49:55 UTC
Actually America was founded on thousands of different religious beliefs of the Native Americans. Christians just slaughtered 90% of them so that they could take over their land.
2015-06-04 05:07:50 UTC
England's colonies had a state church, the Church of England. The indepedent USA has never had an official church. Most of the better known Founders were Deists, in any case, not Christians at all. The Born-Again preachers of the early republic cursed Deists the way Born-Agains curse Muslims now.
2015-06-04 03:46:54 UTC
You are more than entitled to your own opinion.....but NOT your own "facts", LOL!



"As the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion...."



Article 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, signed by John Adams in 1797 after UNANIMOUSLY passing the 2nd Congress of these United States of America...



Of course it is always possible, I suppose, that President Adams (who was THERE) is wrong, and you are right....but I sorta doubt that!
?
2015-06-04 00:27:26 UTC
The world will never forget the genocide of the original American,the Red Indian,all brought on by the christian religion that is based on the fantasy world of make believe and delusion,and a God that does not exist,and never has ok.
?
2015-06-07 16:47:37 UTC
The founders were not all Christians nor were they all conservatives. No religion has ever been declared as the religion of our nation nor is the Bible, God or Christianity mentioned in our Constitution or in any of our other founding documents.
?
2015-06-07 00:06:36 UTC
I feel like disingenuous, dog-whistle questions should be against an EULA or ToS of some kind. Kind of a waste of time and energy for all involved, unless you're trying to compile all of this into a school paper.
?
2015-06-03 20:30:59 UTC
Yes, your correct. America was founded on conservative Christian and Jewish beliefs.
Charles
2015-06-06 09:30:07 UTC
That is a myth ,go back and look at the travisties that native americans suffered for extending there hand and showing europeans how to survive when they arrived and the most hippocritical part about it is americans celebrate thanksgiving every year ignoring this cruel fact of truth and lets not forget the sunday christians, who used the bible to validate slavery and did unthinkable cruelty to africans. conservative christians PLEASE!!!!
?
2015-06-10 20:24:01 UTC
It's not that they forget, they already know. It's that NOT everyone you meet in your life will have the same beliefs as you do. Everyone is different and has the right to believe what they want to believe without being continuously bashed on.
drew
2015-06-04 05:20:16 UTC
Christian nation with slavery as a basic part of life. Good old days, huh?
curtis
2015-06-07 15:20:16 UTC
Well regardless if it was or wasn't founded on that ( wasn't) but ok whatever religion isn't the rules to our society. The sooner Christians realize nothing is going to be taken from them the better. You have the right to practice your faith and so do others. Your religion isn't everyone's and shouldn't be forced on anyone same with all other religions. Just because you know or feel it's the right way to believe others don't see it that way. Christians don't play by the rules when it comes to the separation of church and state and feel that it's a crime. Gay marriage isn't a issue in my religion due to the fact I don't judge or really care if someone likes to have a partner that's the same sex. They are the ones who will deal with the punishment if there is one. ( there's not). We didn't forget that the nation was founded on Christian believes because it never was the case. People are starting to understand life is a gift regardless of what God you pray too and who you love. Maybe everyone is tired of the hate most Christians spread not recognizing they are doing it. When you Judge someone for the life they lead but down know the man or when you scream and tell gays they are going to hell, no not Instead of having compassion for your fellow man. Or when you say that I'm not praying to the right God and I'm going to hell because of it. Not even a look at what your following just blindly following. God isn't in a religious book God is in your heart and there is no need for organized religion to have God in your life. Also what on this earth didn't come from a female of its species? Name one even plants or A sexual life forms still have to have the female anatomy to reproduce. Yes the male is important but the female is the nurturer and caregiver usually. She at least created life with a egg or her body. What makes your think that God is a man or even a human formed entity? Your book that founded our nation that's right that men wrote and altered many times. The book that says women are not equal to men in the house hold. The book that says nothing about race and society structure. ( racism) a book that makes no since and claims the church needs my money. God don't need money to keep his faith alive! No taxes paid by the church but they see all the struggling people in the world. But yet electricity and the prechor having a personal possessions is more important. Why can the man preach for free on Sunday's get a job week days a hold church in a field or in a person of the flocks home? Why do I have to pay to make sure God is happy with me? I don't see the logic in why Christians feel it so nessicary to percicute the ones not aligned with them but get soooo afraid and offended when the shoes on the other foot. Your suppose to let God judge not covet material possessions and spread the word of the lord with peace. But I see anger, hate, and percicution coming from a lot of followers of the multiple Christian faiths. Again another question which one is the right one of he Christian faiths? Some are tainted but been here longest some are wacky and others are less wacky I guess. I'm not saying Christians are wrong or that anyone religion is right. But know most all of us support your church activities and know it's mostly a great thing for people. But not everyone is into what you are and I see a lot of fairy tail type things in most organized religion. I feel I'm my heart God exist and want to be a good person for the most part. I just don't need a book or a group of people telling me what God wants. I know what God expects of me as a man and a human. It's not always easy and sometimes your gonna be tested but I know im ok with God sprit to sprit. Karma to karma entity to entity. Just understand American is a country founded on freedoms. Many different types of freedoms and no we don't always get it right and sometimes get it really wrong. We are the mixing of everyone and everything the human species has to offer. We have the best and The worst of all people. We except all because all of us came from another place at one point unless your native then sorry we screwed you pretty badly. You just believe the way you want to and don't be upset when you get challenged or see it's not the 1st religion in the world. Islam is bigger so by majority of believers and affectivness of the message they are winning. Just keep faith and do the right thing forgive those you can and promote love from all regardless of race, religion, sex, sexual orientation or what even. There's never to much happiness and love in the world.
Socrates
2015-06-03 20:34:13 UTC
Those people, often Liberal, confuses the religious aspects of Christianity with the more secular moral and attitudinal ones thus, think that the term "Christian nation", refers to thinking of Christianity as a official religion.
?
2015-06-10 21:49:16 UTC
By that you mean mass murdering of Indian tribes and taking all their land and give them a death march to a corner in the north western USA then yeah America was founded on a conservative Christian value.

And by chance you mean South America, then by that you mean mass murdering the natives, rape, enslave, give them diseases, and destroying their history and culture then yes to that too.
Port Supervisor
2015-06-08 22:41:29 UTC
“The Government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion.”

-John Adams



"I am for freedom of religion and against all maneuvers to bring about a legal ascendancy of one sect over another.”

-Thomas Jefferson



"We have abundant reason to rejoice that in this Land the light of truth and reason has triumphed over the power of bigotry and superstition… In this enlightened Age and in this Land of equal liberty it is our boast, that a man’s religious tenets will not forfeit the protection of the Laws, nor deprive him of the right of attaining and holding the highest Offices that are known in the United States.”

-George Washington



“The civil government functions with complete success by the total separation of the Church from the State.”

-James Madison



I could go on, but I think you get the idea...
Red
2015-06-09 00:01:41 UTC
Because the democrats still want to break laws and be hateful. They was the one who tried to change the constitution during the civil war and they lost that war against Republican Abe Lincoln then had him assassinated. After they lost the war confederate democrat soldiers created the kkk in Tennessee, the same state the first democrat president came from. In the 60s they still were hateful and had Martin Luther king killed in Tennessee. They even hate their own children and created planned parenthood to get rid of the undesirables. The founder of that was a kkk speaker who was angry that her family was so large and she didnt get what she wanted.
?
2015-06-07 11:21:51 UTC
No, it was based on democracy. Our Fore Fathers left England because of religion, since it also ruled the country.

They also made clear, separation of church & state. Freedom of religion welcomes all faiths, we are a "melting pot" of diversity not just Christians.

So it is obvious, that America never had that title.
Grace
2015-06-09 01:06:40 UTC
People believed America was formed on Christian ideal, "The declaration of Independence" was always about money. America was formed on the promise of happiness and riches.
2015-06-06 03:55:43 UTC
"Wasn't America founded on Christian ideals"



lol, no

since when is rebelling against "taxation without representation" a christian ideal



exactly what did the the boston tea party have to do with Christianity ? LOL
?
2015-06-04 20:31:13 UTC
1) It's not and it wasn't. Saying so is obvious trolling.



2) Even if it was, doesn't mean it can't change. We should do what's right for the current age, not be tied down to crap that happened 200 years ago.
?
2015-06-04 20:45:41 UTC
freedom of religion is really a good thing for americans. it allows all of us to believe entirely different things. it does not matter to americans if you have a greater-truth, a lesser-truth, or no truth at all; as long as you use the word "god; then, anything that you say is considered to be true.



there should be a religious debate using --criteria for judging the validity of a religion----, to test and develop the greater -truth of judeo-christian religion; to resolve this issue completely of what the truth actually is.

until then, any heresy which you can spout-out-of-your-mouth will be considered to be true.



the only choice is to deny it all, if it can not be proved to be true.
foiopoas
2015-06-04 05:41:24 UTC
Because liberals hate America.
Will
2015-06-12 12:18:50 UTC
The country was founded by Liberals,the Conservatives wanted to keep ties with Britan. Thomas Jefferson for one strongly believed in separation of church and state.
Gerry G
2015-06-07 07:01:51 UTC
America may have been founded on Judeo Christian principles, but, the founders were definitely not all Christians.
?
2015-06-03 21:04:38 UTC
America was founded by violent, slave-holding, rapist, hypocritical RADICALS.

Committing treason and establishing a new nation are not the acts of conservatives.
?
2015-06-07 21:21:48 UTC
America is secular but most people here are Christians
rubikon
2015-06-09 12:37:57 UTC
You might want to check out a book by Kevin Kruse to read his argument that the modern Christian conservative was fabricated by corporations and the one percent of the day in order to fight the changes that FDR made to get us out of the great depression.
?
2015-06-10 09:40:25 UTC
It's not it was founded on Masonic ideals Masons predate Christianity by centuries.
No More Democrats or GOP, please
2015-06-04 09:24:14 UTC
America was NEVER founded on the Christian religion. If you don't believe it, try reading the Treaty with Tripoli.
perfectlybaked
2015-06-04 20:50:31 UTC
Yeah, but no country has to prevail in the exact way in which it was founded.



Now I'm not saying Germany was founded on Nazi ideas, but that is a notorious part of its history and now?



Nazi sentiment is contraband, resulting in immediate arrest.
James
2015-06-11 04:02:17 UTC
The Treaty of Tripoli signed in 1797

Written by Washington and signed by John Adams

As the Government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the law, religion or tranquility
buckeye_12207
2015-06-05 09:53:15 UTC
That would be news to Thomas Jefferson, Tom Paine, and some thousands of unnamed others who died fighting against the crowned conservatives of their day.
?
2015-08-08 15:07:04 UTC
No, in fact the founders were more liberal in their views because religion shouldn't govern all decisions because that is stupid and hurts others rights, like gay people, or abortions or being executed for eating pork, that's stupid, and even if it was different, who cares? Change is a good thing
Homeschool produces winners
2015-06-04 15:47:18 UTC
ALL the Founding Fathers believed in Christ. Some believed in different ways. ALL made statements upholding faith in God. You name one and I'll show you how much they believed in Christ. Freedom to have 'No" religion is just fine. For you non-believers, your freedom to have "no" religion does not entitle you to have freedom "from" religion. You may not take My beliefs away by claiming yours. You are entitled to make "NO" laws prohibiting the FREE exercise of MY religion.



Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
SiouxCityHe
2015-06-11 08:23:40 UTC
It was based on Christian ideals, yes, but I think the whole design of the Constitution was for adaptability--specifically, the freedom to practice religion. And nobody can expect people to _not_ bring their religious--or non-religious--ideals into voting or social behavior.
2015-06-04 15:52:29 UTC
The US was NOT founded on religious principles, it was founded on NON-RELIGIOUS principles! Pilgrims were ESCAPING ENGLAND'S FORCED RELIGIOUS BELIEFS! "God bless America" and every mentioning of God in the Pledge of Allegiance and other places was added during the Cold War. You're an ignorant bigot.
?
2015-06-07 23:10:59 UTC
I'm not forgetting being a former slave, master, but you've had since 1865 to get past that.

For some payback my Gaelic sired Native American males walked to Virginia to enlist in

the 7th Continental Line. There were no uniforms so the volunteer army dyed their coats

black using pine pitch and campfire ash. Some went north to a previously captured British

fort and dragged cannons cross-country over ice and snow to Boston. Others dug into the

high ground waiting for the cannon to help evict the Royal Army and Navy. Rather than

enlist again to see New York my blood walked their English scalps southward happy to

have had a fair won piece of the Founding Fathers. Hello ?
Annonymous
2015-06-10 23:20:52 UTC
It was, but if your thinking they wanted a Christian theocracy, you would have various opinions back then. Anyone back in the 1790's wouldn't even recognize the obvious secularism of our society, they would be outright shocked by it. They would have stuck to the meaning of religious freedom.
2015-06-06 17:36:01 UTC
It's not
John
2015-06-11 22:32:37 UTC
My ancestors helped found this nation in order to prevent religious sects from controlling the civil government.



There was nothing "conservative" about "the founders". In fact, they were the most liberal revolutionaries of their time. Certainly nothing like the "conservatives" of today who cling to glories of the past and seek to impose again the dominance of Church and the new class of Royalty they have created with their political agendas.
?
2015-06-06 13:51:20 UTC
technically speaking the christian british and europeans found america yes but it did not belong to them however they took over but now it is a multicultural multifaith nation
?
2015-06-05 18:10:49 UTC
because america wants to be a free country and free of religion, yes it was founded by christians but the people of america decided to write that the religions are free because they want their country to be free.
?
2015-06-04 18:11:49 UTC
Conservatism as we know it didn't exist then, and although the founders may have been Cristian, this country was based on religious FREEDOM, which mean NOT making laws on the base of religious beliefs.
Marshhawk
2015-06-04 04:32:52 UTC
The USA was founded on Mason ideas.

Look on the one dollar bill and you will see some masonic symbols.

Many of the signers of the Declaration of Independence were Masons.

Even a few POTUS were masons.
cymry3jones
2015-06-04 23:30:25 UTC
You may well use the past tense! There is no such thing as a right wing Christian. Right wing politics goes against everything Jesus said.
?
2015-06-10 16:06:16 UTC
Why do we forget that America was inhabited for millennia by the American Indians. The only true Americans.
stevefwb
2015-06-11 08:59:45 UTC
does it really matter? many of the Christian leadership has its own issues. what does it matter when killing babies is the norm, and entitlements are being questioned for the ones they were set up for. next we will legalize drugs , and then we will disband the local police and then establish a federal police.



as a whole we are hurting the country with unfair taxes and taking of rights. we think its right for cameras to invade our streets. in the olden times you would need a warrant to watch a person.
?
2015-06-04 03:23:13 UTC
How would anyone other that Conservatives dredge up such a lie? And no matter how many times that lie is repeated, it will never stick!
?
2015-06-07 16:53:25 UTC
Yur right - America was founded on Freemason ideals.
2015-06-04 07:00:54 UTC
They don't and haven't forgotten, what many people are learning is that it means NOTHING to say one is so called " Christian " when most religious people are phony and false , using of their religious beliefs to be corrupt, greedy... even killing !
comencents
2015-06-05 15:00:37 UTC
I pray for the day a politician will say all religion is a crock and the ding dongs who believe in it must be intellectually bankrupt. The bad that religion has caused probably outweighs the good.
B
2015-06-11 11:09:56 UTC
America was founded so that religion wouldn t have a place in Government and that a person could persue spiritual and religious beliefs as they wanted.What ever they wanted.Freedom!
Linda R
2015-06-08 12:34:32 UTC
America still IS. We just have to wait until we get rid of Obama and elect a Conservative Republican for president......then; ALL gays, feminists, liberals, Atheists, illegals and Muslims better pack their bags and LEAVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2015-06-04 09:42:07 UTC
Our country was founded on the greco-roman ideas of the Enlightenment. These ideas were radically to the left. And "God Bless America" was added to the dollar in the 1950s.
Roger
2015-06-04 23:07:46 UTC
No, it wasn't. Some of our founding father were Christian, some were deist.
?
2015-06-03 20:32:15 UTC
WAS is the operative word, that identity no longer applies in Post America.
Bryson
2015-06-04 00:21:23 UTC
hmm.. well in some ways, you are right. I learned in school that Christopher Columbus "discovered" America. With his Judeo-Christian values, of spreading the gospel through violence and murder.
Satchel
2015-06-05 18:13:20 UTC
That is one of my biggest pet peeves, they made this country with freedom of religion, yet all too often non-christians don't get the same rights and trust (muslims and gays) I hate this country(ies citizens)
?
2015-06-11 06:16:22 UTC
because these days, the constitution is merely a concept rather than the principles of america, for instance, liberals support the first ammendment but not the second, conservatives support the second but not freedom of religion, people use the constitution for there own gains, americans should support the entire constitution not part of it
?
2015-06-05 08:40:33 UTC
"Wasn't America founded on Christian ideals"



No it was not. It was founded on secular ideas
?
2015-06-09 12:47:03 UTC
Christianity forced on many people.
Morgan
2015-06-12 21:07:07 UTC
Yes God bless America. The devil has come into our nation and has created mockery'
Zach
2015-06-05 19:07:51 UTC
Because they (the stupid liberals) want a new country, a country more like Russia, or Cuba, or Germany in the 1930's.
?
2015-06-06 20:22:22 UTC
Judo/Christian principles were used in the creation of this nation
?
2015-06-03 23:29:08 UTC
America was not funded on "Christian" ideals, or conservative ideals.
rakesh s
2015-06-04 21:40:43 UTC
Because this is not the America that used to be.
Kyle
2015-06-09 12:29:40 UTC
Because it wasn't...conservative maybe, but not Christian.
iO
2015-06-11 10:40:38 UTC
It was founded on those IDEALs (downright Calvinist actually). But even back then, the founders had trouble anchoring their ideas into reality: colorful, and other real people have a way of making people back track...
2015-06-12 07:38:14 UTC
We need Liberals to prevent us Conservatives from becoming too extreme.
Arbaz Khan
2015-06-10 16:17:46 UTC
I would say yes Because our founding fathers were from Great Britain. And we were largely influenced by them and our ideas
2015-06-06 14:23:32 UTC
I don't think anyone cares about conservatives anymore.
karen
2015-06-06 06:45:42 UTC
the founding fathers of the usa were not what you would call 'conservative christians'. people can't 'forget' what never was.
2015-06-04 16:40:03 UTC
It's not.
2015-06-04 11:42:26 UTC
The world forgets daily to this day Stalin and Mao killed 100m civilians
Periferalist
2015-06-04 08:48:40 UTC
According to James Madison, who would know about this as well if not better than most people, the U.S. Constitution is nothing more than political document, with nothing, to paraphrase him, divinely inspired about it.
?
2015-06-11 01:44:37 UTC
Actually no, the US wasn't founded on Christian ideals. The national anthem wasn't adapted until the civil war.
?
2015-06-08 15:46:46 UTC
Religion doesn't matter in politics people have a freedom of religion. No matter how other people feel! 🙌
CHRISTIAN
2015-06-07 07:14:38 UTC
Free will...its all about free will...America was founded on free will...Worship who you will...pick the deity of your choice...Mohamed, Buddha, Confucius, Mork from Ork...or the one true God... the God of Abraham ,Isaac and Jacob...that s what America was about....the same thing God is about...free will...the Creator that gave to His creation the free will to reject or accept Him....fascinating
?
2015-06-03 22:37:25 UTC
Our Forefathers came to America for FREEDOM OF RELIGION not freedom from religion.
Rozsądny
2015-06-11 14:37:54 UTC
You are entitled to believe that but our founding fathers were liberal deists(rejected organized religion but nonetheless believed a god/higher power created everything). The US Constitution is a liberal document. To be clear liberal does not equal democrat. Liberal is supporting free speech, Democrat is claiming to support free speech but only if they have the same ideas as you.
?
2015-06-07 11:17:39 UTC
Epistemology aware... because it isn't now... with all those amendments etc which is in direct antagonism to the 10 commandments.
2015-06-06 21:29:07 UTC
I am an Atheist and I won't forget the men who died who gave that right to me!
2015-06-04 12:59:09 UTC
people become more intelligent over time? we learn new things? the knowledge base in 1800 was not near what it was not. There may not even be a god to be honest
?
2015-06-05 19:40:34 UTC
No. It was founded on ideals of individual freedom and the belief that happiness was our right.



Freedom of religious principles has ALWAYS been a part of that.
Sumi
2015-06-09 07:35:15 UTC
Because it's an inconvenient truth.
Ian
2015-06-10 20:43:01 UTC
Because it isn't, and most of the founding fathers weren't Christians
?
2015-06-04 17:14:28 UTC
The Idea of Democracy was developed by the Greeks.

Freedom of religion for the people: freedom from religion for the government.

Church of England? OK.

Church/temple/mosque/synagogue of the US. IMO, not good.
2015-06-04 11:14:57 UTC
It's 'convenient' for them to forget and I echo GOD BLESS AMERICA
?
2015-06-04 11:04:49 UTC
In Money We Trust
Thorn
2015-06-06 14:22:15 UTC
because that isn't true

The US has Freedom of Religion. To favor one over another is unconstitutional
MEL T
2015-06-03 20:31:55 UTC
It was founded on religious freedom not Christianity alone.
Cajunboy
2015-06-08 21:07:55 UTC
Not to worry....We're still in good HANDS.... We were warned about these times many times over. Why be surprised now?
2015-06-05 15:27:04 UTC
Huh
Shawn
2015-06-08 19:22:04 UTC
It was founded on freedom of religion... not Christianity
2015-06-06 14:36:22 UTC
How could anyone forget that? It is obvious in the backwards, hill billy attitude that still prevails there.
Sweetdaddy Rex
2015-06-08 09:16:46 UTC
Things change with time; 600 years ago, people thought the earth was FLAT !
2015-06-03 20:31:02 UTC
Not according to the Founding Fathers! S'matter, you can't read your history textbook?
2015-06-03 20:30:09 UTC
Yes. Like mandatory Sunday church attendance and human slavery.
?
2015-06-05 11:48:08 UTC
History is being rewritten everyday to PROVE the Progressives point of view
2015-06-06 20:53:45 UTC
it doesn't freaking matter what religion america used to be. we are all free now for the most part and society is progressing, right?
tom
2015-06-06 01:56:52 UTC
Not everyone in the USA is Christian so it is unfair to tailor everyone's lives to the idea that they are
badmofaux
2015-06-12 06:46:03 UTC
Because our Founding Fathers specifically and concisely said so.
?
2015-06-04 13:10:29 UTC
Let America be anything it wants to be.
?
2015-06-10 19:19:23 UTC
California with its ultra liberal senators and congress and Hollywood , media is where the country is going. Rich liberals caring only about themselves.
2015-06-10 00:04:54 UTC
Take it from Washington himself, he refused to join any political party and hoped they would never be formed, and church and state have always been separate.
?
2015-06-10 17:26:20 UTC
why do people forget that America was a "Great Spirit Nationl?" the natives that lived here.. believed in the great spirit not Jesus
?
2015-06-07 12:03:24 UTC
Simple! it is no longer widely taught in the schools and yes, in the churches. We have become mostly Godless and have lost that soul image we once had,
?
2015-06-09 09:55:03 UTC
No, North American Indian beliefs.
MJ R
2015-06-14 18:24:54 UTC
Three of the first 6 Presidents were Unitarians.
2015-06-03 20:35:06 UTC
Because it was actually founded on enlightenment era secular humanism.
nobudE
2015-06-04 21:09:40 UTC
Because it wasn't until W.
King of Pain
2015-06-08 14:04:50 UTC
No it was founded by Deist not Christians.
arbiter
2015-06-04 13:41:27 UTC
The US was formed as a Masonic Republic

Calling itself the 'New World Order'
?
2015-06-10 10:24:02 UTC
indeed. people are so ignorant !!!!! Don't even read the bible any more even though thats what this nation was founded on
2015-06-04 06:59:02 UTC
"Was" - for about 200 years of the 14,000 years of the time that humans have occupied North America.
Evan
2015-06-05 17:36:59 UTC
like my favourite person of history once said..."America's built on philosophy, while England is built on history"
?
2015-06-04 07:07:57 UTC
I dont know why they have forgotten, but I surely wish they would get back.. our nation is in serious decline because we have strayed from God.. it is beyond obvious. smh.
Hollow Sunsets
2015-06-04 08:20:29 UTC
Someone needs to retake their high school history class.
?
2015-06-09 18:07:56 UTC
Sign of the times
2015-06-05 21:10:44 UTC
It was NOT.it was a radical departure from the official state religions of Europe.
Adam
2015-06-10 05:58:07 UTC
God doesn't belong to the Christians
?
2015-06-05 09:00:50 UTC
Hell no the way they treated Africans as slaves. Stop being fooled by ignorance.
Blue_MiDnights
2015-06-05 11:51:39 UTC
Like slavery.
Tom S
2015-06-11 11:09:30 UTC
Just like, not all the colonists were from England, not all the colonists were Christians. So, even if it was, it aint no more.
?
2015-06-03 20:53:06 UTC
Thats been the pretense. Christians seemed to have forgotten.
2015-06-05 12:16:39 UTC
They didn't forget.
2015-06-03 20:31:10 UTC
hardly, the one reason people came to America was to flee religious persecution. main reason they made it clear to separate church and state.
?
2015-06-08 23:29:56 UTC
They don't forget it.. they just want us to be ashamed of it.
2015-06-09 05:49:25 UTC
**** Christianity
Hailey
2015-06-06 00:12:18 UTC
who? americans? theyr totes mostly christian and athiest, and both sides dont forget
Allescia
2015-06-06 18:48:43 UTC
It wasn't
Foye
2015-06-03 23:37:52 UTC
I don't understand why I am doing this.
?
2015-06-10 03:40:00 UTC
They smartened up and seen that religion is nothing more then a fairy tale
Pennie k
2015-06-09 11:12:40 UTC
amercia has gods words engraved(literally) all over her government buildings and its a shame these people haven t been educated in history!!
fhvg
2015-06-05 01:27:17 UTC
Who cres
Jimmy C
2015-06-05 19:07:08 UTC
It still is, even though some people try to deny it.
darcy m
2015-06-03 20:39:56 UTC
sane people do not care



enough of religion and politics



you truly are a few we are many
Cait
2015-06-06 16:32:51 UTC
Yes, and on Slavery
Ron
2015-06-04 12:16:44 UTC
It is the agenda of the Atheists to make Americans forget and accept a Liberal "live as you please, there is no God" way of life.
?
2015-06-05 20:52:48 UTC
Because the Constitution guarentees separation of church and state.
Byron
2015-06-09 07:22:09 UTC
America being diverse is part of the "American Dream."
?
2015-06-04 03:58:28 UTC
Because it wasn't
Nathaniel
2015-06-10 07:09:28 UTC
puritans were not Christians, they were masochistic sadist who tiptoed through life whipping the non'believers.
Eloy
2015-06-05 01:16:42 UTC
Because of the way the leasers are acting and with the values of the society and culture.
2015-06-09 13:36:56 UTC
Liberals are trying to destroy the nation.
?
2015-06-05 18:29:20 UTC
lol you christian are funny as hell actually it was founded by Deists also "god" only came in the 50s
TheBansheeofBebop
2015-06-09 20:48:35 UTC
You mean MARTIAL law? Jeez. Don't people read anymore?
A
2015-06-04 05:39:09 UTC
that killed native Americans and made black people slaves. How Christian....
Csc
2015-06-09 14:53:32 UTC
Don't know
?
2015-06-10 21:12:01 UTC
No it wasn't. If it was, we would still be English.
2015-06-04 19:42:18 UTC
They hate history and they don't believe God is in control! (Which He is!)
Mike Cooper
2015-06-05 05:04:03 UTC
They just want to deny reality.
?
2015-06-04 12:30:56 UTC
Liberal Ignorance of the Youth of today.
smart
2015-06-06 22:19:08 UTC
its because christian are not the only religion that exit in USA.
2015-06-04 16:09:51 UTC
Read Revelations in the Bible for the answer to that, it explain it vividly.
jimmy
2015-06-05 14:52:46 UTC
yes but you have to remember, "it's Bush's fault"!
2015-06-04 20:45:50 UTC
It is all due to the Kenyan Pretender
Tanner
2015-06-10 08:47:59 UTC
because the liberals are jerk sand assholes they took over our school district also those stupid atheist should go die. why do we respect gays, the LGBT,atheist, abortionist ,and liberals we should respect the veterans, our founding fathers, and the elders
Orla C
2015-06-04 12:39:48 UTC
What do you mean, 'was'? It still IS.
Bill
2015-06-05 07:24:26 UTC
most don't forget. only those on the dark side.
Grillparzer
2015-06-03 20:32:02 UTC
No, it was founded on the ideas of the Enlightenment, fortunately.
Wee Trojan
2015-06-04 06:06:15 UTC
what happened to the Plymouth Brethren then? Will you be re-naming the Plymouth /Rock?
zhaleskra
2015-06-05 15:34:36 UTC
It's not possible to forget ********.
2015-06-04 05:24:31 UTC
Unfortunately. We have gone from the land of US. TO the land of Me.
Barney Google
2015-06-08 23:13:53 UTC
No, the founding fathers were Freemasons.
CaliforniaSmithy
2015-06-08 19:00:44 UTC
"God Bless America" is a song.
2015-06-06 13:04:31 UTC
the devil is at work and lies to people so then christians will be persecuted
harrys
2015-06-05 19:07:46 UTC
I'm sad help me
?
2015-06-05 22:03:05 UTC
is it really, if is a chistian nation then why they love Judas who killed Jesus.
masoud
2015-06-10 03:44:51 UTC
Because the have lost they memory
?
2015-06-05 04:53:59 UTC
BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW AMERICA IS A BLESSED COUNTRY AND TYCOONS ARE INTELIGENT
?
2015-06-04 15:55:49 UTC
poor memory
2015-06-05 06:43:37 UTC
Allah will change that soon. you will all be reading the quran and having sex with goats.
2015-06-13 19:38:42 UTC
past events dont matter as we continue to evolve
2015-06-04 10:41:44 UTC
If it ever was, that was a long time ago.
mlln5691
2015-06-06 12:26:38 UTC
msm and wash dc...progressives trying to eliminate God and religion..
?
2015-06-12 00:38:32 UTC
america is greta
Dong
2015-06-06 02:18:38 UTC
because love is free, man.
J
2015-06-08 21:17:39 UTC
s
?
2015-06-03 20:33:24 UTC
Umm.... probably because it wasn't.
?
2015-06-06 01:40:45 UTC
because there a lot of atheists
?
2015-06-05 08:17:21 UTC
Because of atheists and the ACLU.
?
2015-06-08 19:33:09 UTC
They know it WAS.

They have moved on.
2015-06-05 12:55:03 UTC
the American constitution was based on ancient jewish law, theTalmud.
Mike S
2015-06-07 08:08:14 UTC
Well, it never was, & no it wasn't.
?
2015-06-10 02:26:56 UTC
I weep for the future.
?
2015-06-04 11:57:56 UTC
x61
luisa l hi
2015-06-06 22:59:50 UTC
MY MOM CHOICE IS SACRED,THE WEIRD CHOICES ARE FIND YOUR REACH?
jaggy
2015-06-08 07:30:31 UTC
because it is prospering country.
?
2015-06-07 03:40:33 UTC
Ugh. No.
?
2015-06-04 20:41:00 UTC
all are busy
winston
2015-06-04 12:01:43 UTC
good question
2015-06-04 04:32:37 UTC
It never was.
robertrichmond123
2015-06-09 05:22:07 UTC
its not the people its the liberans and the media.
Rom
2015-06-10 14:49:53 UTC
so what? things change
2015-06-05 14:34:30 UTC
that BC of you
?
2015-06-07 22:06:41 UTC
Cause their stupid
Espresso
2015-06-04 04:45:26 UTC
cauz they is stupider than stupid
2015-06-05 05:50:02 UTC
FACE IT! It is a HASBEEN.
2015-06-10 13:48:35 UTC
it still is
?
2015-06-05 06:10:56 UTC
being liberal is easier
2015-06-04 11:02:29 UTC
**** america
.
2015-06-08 21:41:15 UTC
no it wasnt
?
2015-06-10 11:00:12 UTC
because they do.
Fallaya
2015-06-04 17:34:44 UTC
LOL...you dummy! Thanks for the two points!
wonga
2015-06-11 03:58:42 UTC
LOL
captain
2015-06-10 03:23:44 UTC
balls
2015-06-04 18:21:40 UTC
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