Question:
Is the answer to the Gitmo "issue" to simply execute these men...?
anonymous
2008-06-16 22:00:35 UTC
for war crimes?

No more detention. No more Communist A. International butting in to our business.
Seventeen answers:
ohbrother
2008-06-16 23:10:42 UTC
This same court told the President and the Congress two years ago that they would have to pass a law pertaining to the detainees. They did. What the 5 did was overturn the law and made new law. That is not their function. They are to interpet the Constitution. They did not even do this. Their ruling is so vague that it could mean that soldiers could have to advise those that are captured on the battle field of their Constitutional Rights, which is almost comical seeing they are not U.S. citizens. Will our troops have to get a search warrant to enter a house that a sniper has been firing on them from.

There are ten such cases as the one in the link from Reuther's below, where the former detainees have returned to combat or "Jihad" These people do not come under the auspices of the Geneva Convention, so why should they have law made for them by the Supreme Court. Over 400 have been released so far. They will have hearings and be allowed bail if not a flight risk. So who's neighborhood should they be bailed out to?



http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCri...



30 Gitmo detainees return to combat

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/free...



Additional: One other point. The Geneva Convention states we may hold an enemy combatant until the end of the conflict



Less we forget Congress has the power to overturn a Supreme Court Decision
Jo
2008-06-17 05:19:25 UTC
No, but it's time to clean shop and get some **** together. I would like those (and the supreme court backs this up) to be able to claim their innocence w/ the help of a lawyer and the decision of a judge. Many have been released throughout the years, without a lot of press coverage, after some men spent months or years incarcerated only found later to be innocent (or at least no concrete evidence of any wrongdoing whatsoever). It's time for our govt to step up and explain (not in a way that would compromise nat'l security-- for instance, when showing a judge hard evidence that someone at Gitmo belongs there--- there should be no problem having a trial and a conviction. And those guys, by the way (if you can call them "guys" like they're human, who are guilty should never get the death penalty. They should be assimilated into our prison system-- and they thought sex crime committers werent' safe in prison!! But don't isolate them to protect them. If they die while being gang-raped in prison, let them be martyrs in that special way. Unfortunately, regardless of suspicions that have nothing to back it up, the US will have to release prisoners who have no reason to be imprisoned other than suspicion. Let them out. Then track them for the rest of their miserable lives. If they are innocent-- and I believe some of them were-- although who knows how many will join the cause of jihad after being imprisoned unfairly by the US. If some of these "innocent" guys being held with no charges against them are let loose (w a judges ruling supporting their release of course), spying on these prisoners from the minute they're declared free would most likely give us way more info on how Al Quada is operating currently, not the way that some have blabbed about ((good for them, too) what was going on in Al Quada and Iran and whatever else years ago. The intelligence that I'm sure has been retrieved at times in Gitmo is outdated. Let's release the ones with no evidence of wrongdoing and follow them around like the paparazzi stalk Britney-- except incognito at best. All who are outraged at the captives being able to have access to lawyers and our legal justice system--- just wait and see. Those mother******* will no real pain and humiliation that won't include martyrdom if they could only get put away like all the other dangerous felons in the US prison system. Take their "joy" of martyrdom away from them. Those men will be raped, beaten and destroyed spiritually and emotionally, all by people who we are not supposed to respect. Like the dumb people who ran Gitmo in the first place.
gldmj5
2008-06-17 05:31:07 UTC
Absolutely not! The Gitmo "issue" and the Bush administration's complete disregard for the Geneva Conventions is already a downright embarrassment for our country and will go down as an all-time low point of his presidency (and that is quite a hard list to top).
oimwoomwio
2008-06-17 06:20:36 UTC
Not all of these people were actually picked up "off of the battlefield"--many were turned in for a reward by their neighbors because of whatever vendetta existed between the two. That's a big part of the reason that more than half of them have been release, after a period of years, without charges.



Is it worth it to you to kill two men who were simply i the wrong place at the wrong time for each bad guy you send to his just reward? Sound pretty unconscionable to me.
Mobius
2008-06-17 05:10:39 UTC
I guess the moral of this story is to take no prisoners.
49er fan
2008-06-17 05:03:41 UTC
No! If all countries used the same tactics then all of our military men and women's fate would be sealed. If we were to do that then it would be seen as OK for every country to do so.
CBH
2008-06-17 05:05:12 UTC
No. First not all the men in Gitmo have been found guilty of anything they can be detained for suspicion. We would end up killing innocent men.

I do think it is funny though, you right wing nuts were calling them Islamo-facists and now they are Commies, and you say we liberals flip flop you went from one extreme to the other.



You are as much an extremist as they are!
anonymous
2008-06-17 05:03:26 UTC
Provided they are first given a fair trial and are found guilty of crimes deserving of capital punishment.
anonymous
2008-06-17 05:11:22 UTC
That's THE right wing answer for most things - kill everyone and let God sort em out. My question is what exactly are you fighting for? Is it a democratic America home of the free - or a lumbering giant staggering around the world from one crisis to another spilling the blood of it's warriors and spending more and more of it's dollars on weapons. We don't have to guess which is your vision for the perfect America do we.
Think 1st
2008-06-17 05:16:29 UTC
Joe Stalin says YES!
Morgan S
2008-06-17 05:15:55 UTC
Not a bad idea..give them each a suicide bomb vest, and let them blow themselves up for some 'Virgin Action' in Hell.
anonymous
2008-06-17 05:07:21 UTC
Hell yes! Let God sort those sub-humans out. They started this shitt and they won't come out and fight like men. They hide behind women and children and in mosques. They chop the heads off of non-combatants and send the videos around the world. We should offer them NO QUARTER!
?
2008-06-17 05:04:50 UTC
Not unless they're guilty. to just kill them would be a black eye to the U.S, we would never get over in the eyes of the world. they never should have been taken prisoner in the first place.
anonymous
2008-06-17 05:04:43 UTC
Can we come to your house , jail you in Cuba for a few years, say you did no crime and execute you also? of so what is your home address!
st.mack
2008-06-17 05:05:04 UTC
Yep. that would keep them off the battle field and get them their virgins too. A win win situation.
anonymous
2008-06-17 05:05:15 UTC
Yes, without a trial.
Adam W
2008-06-17 05:12:52 UTC
kill 'em all. or better yet.... let's test future weapons on them!!!!


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