Question:
What is "moderate Islam" - does it reject Muhammad and the Koran?
truthisback
2007-08-23 10:53:56 UTC
Does it re-write the history regarding Muhammad and re-translate "kill unbelievers" to mean "fight the inner struggle against temptation?"

I KNOW there are people who claim to be Muslim and worship in mosques who are non-violent and even friendly, some of whom denounce the terrorists.

But how can this be reconciled with the wellspring of their religion?

Yes, Christianity, primarily before the Reformation, was violent too - - - but JESUS wasn't. The origin of that faith is non-violent. Jesus may or may not have been God but he wasn't violent in the least, and never spoke in favor of violence. Muhammad killed tens of thousands of people, in most cases in unprovoked raids. And his Koran clearly says to kill the unbelievers - it says how to kill them and what the reward from Allah will be.

How can "moderate Islam" - however one defines it - be reconciled with origins that are anything but moderate?
Fifteen answers:
anonymous
2007-08-23 11:00:15 UTC
The Koran is a book of violence and female suppression, in short, its back to he middle ages, doesn't matter, how much politicians try to pussyfoot around it. It's plain out disgusting
energybuild
2007-08-23 11:06:22 UTC
It is the extremists that are not practising Islam as the Koran teaches. The moderates are what one would call real Muslims. I have not found anything like what you have put forward within my experience of Islam so i worry about your source. Also don't tell me Christianity was violent in the past, it still is violent just look at the extremist elements of the Christian movement. extremists and those that selectively quote to prove a shaky point are the bigest threat to world peace.
pip
2007-08-23 11:01:10 UTC
The modern day Jihad as a widespread holy war is actually a new concept. It was used to recruit Muslims for the Afghani/USSR war and this is when it evolved completely into what we think of as a Jihad today. Moderate Muslims do see a Jihad as an internal struggle against their own demons.. not a widespread holy war.. and it takes no re-writing to do that... it's just a difference of opinion.. you can take almost ANY verse from the Bible and get just as varied of opinions. Moderate Muslims are also more open minded towards the West as well...some even choose to live here.





Edit: it's obvious you won't accept another opinion on this one.. my sources are from Pakistanis and Jordanians and Lebanese people.. they have a better feel for this than you and I combined for they have lived it... but you didn't ask this to listen and think did you.. you asked this one to try and convince others to think like you.
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2016-10-03 07:21:40 UTC
Sunnah is a ingredient of Islam. The Quran itself says that the Quran replaced into printed to Muhammad so he can clarify it to human beings. So between the missions of Muhammad replaced into to describe the Quran, no longer in basic terms by using words yet by using movements. in any different case, what's using sending a e book with a Prophet. I propose, Allah would have despatched a e book with no Prophet. with a view to examine out the great Sunnah by using fact the reason and the smart implementation of the Quran. So in this sense, Sunnah is a source of Islam basically like Quran is a source of Islam. the only distinction is that the Quran, textual content and meaning, is from God, while the textual content of the Sunnah/Hadith is from the Prophet mutually as the meaning is from God. in fact, the Prophet have mentioned in a Hadith, "certainly i replaced into given the Quran and something equivalent to it with it" concerning the Sunnah. So this means that what the Prophet used to speak replaced into no longer from his very own opinion yet replaced right into a revelation that the Prophet used to put in his very own words. so a methods as Ijmaa' or Qiyaas, then those are no longer seen as components of Islam. yet they are seen as components for fixing new jurisprudence subject concerns that regarded after the time of the Prophet. as an occasion, Islam forbade wine yet did no longer point out something approximately beer. yet considering the fact that they are comparable and that they share the reason of prohibition it relatively is intoxication or drunkenness, then we are saying the beer is impermissible by using way of Qiyas (analogy). in any different case, that's totally sparkling in Islam that Qiyas ought to not at all be used whilst there's a sparkling textual content ( i.e. Quran or Sunnah). And Allah knows superb
Washington Irving
2007-08-23 11:01:44 UTC
Judaism, the basis for Christianity, advocates violence against onon-believers.

Christianity it self believed that violence against non Christians was justified. Look at the conquest of America, look at the holocaust. No it wasn;t muslims... it was christians killing non christians.



If you knew anything about Jesus, and believed in him, you would not profess hate against the muslim people. You would not profess hate against anyone.



Sadly, Christ's message of peace has not never been advocated by many christians.



Please look into Liberation theology... it looks unto the true heritage of Christs gospel.



Blessed be the poor

Blessed be the children

Blessed be the peace makers

for their is the kingdom of heaven

(sermon on the mount, paraphrased)



edit: by the way, Jihad means sttruggle. We can all agree that that belief takes sttruggle, internal or external and that it need not be violent.

If you are a true christian, defend your iraqi brothers. Stop the war.
Ryan F
2007-08-23 10:59:39 UTC
For most of Islam's existence Muslim leaders have been tolerant of other religions especially the other Abrahimic religions (i.e. Judaism and Christianity)... in many parts of the early Islamic Empire Christians and Jews were allowed to practice their religion with relative impunity... Mohammad himself referred to the Jews and Christians as "people of the Scripture" and acknowledged the fact that both religions were an important part of Islamic history... in fact both the Jewish Abraham and Jesus are named in the Koran as being prophets from God... though I have not studied the Koran myself I know that from the beginning Islam has been a religion of tolerance and respect towards other religious beliefs, especially those of the Judeo-Christian religions...
B.Kevorkian
2007-08-23 11:06:06 UTC
Moderate Islam is a disorganized reformation movement, primarily in very liberal places like America or the EU, but also within sects of Islam, such as the Sufis, that seeks to re-interpret the Koran in a manner compatible with the continued existance of rival religions, secular cultures, modern concepts of human rights and the modern world, in general.



'Moderate' could also be used to describe a muslim who is simply not that devout.



Finally, 'Moderate Islam' is sometime used to refer to Islam in general, less the radical movement of Islamism (a highly politicised form of Islam - or a political movement that draws upon Islam - that started in the 60s, and is the driving force behind terrorist groups like Al Qaeda).
The ROCK
2007-08-23 11:08:12 UTC
Jesus might not have been violent but his reincarnation George Bush is (Your racist rethug friends call him Jesus) ! He has killed millions of people, screwed more than 4 nations up in just 8 years.



Wow, what a feat.



And yea, one more thing like you said cry baby, "reporting" this answer on Y/A will get it removed - but that's just an admission on your part that you have no answer.



EDIT- Fantastic work Washington Irving. Great reply buddy :-)
netjr
2007-08-23 10:57:23 UTC
I would describe moderate Islam as those who do not profess Islam to be the only faith, acceptance of others, and willingness to practice its religion in peace with others. Moderate Islam does not have to reject the Koran or Muhammad for those items are interpreted by Extremist for their favor.
LeeGuy
2007-08-23 11:17:19 UTC
There really is no such thing as moderate Islam. Sure, there will be those who are not as exteem in their thinking. But thos leaders who consider themselve moderate still condone suicide bombings and martyrdom. So, in that respect they really are not moderate. Also, they do still follow Mohammad and the Koran. Although, there are sects that follow other prophets and not Mohammad. But that is not a reason why one would be labeled as moderate.
Frank
2007-08-23 10:56:59 UTC
Um, no. To reject Muhammad and the Koran would mean you wouldn't be a Muslim anymore.



"Moderate Muslim" can equate to "Moderate Christian" - Someone who has faith and follows the teaching of their religion, but doesn't let if effect their lives in an overwhelming way or take it to the extremes that "Radical" members of their religion take it to.
~Celtic~Saltire~
2007-08-23 11:20:36 UTC
What is moderate mulim you ask?? Well my friend that remains to be seen, however slowly but surely their voices are starting to trickle out into main stream media, and I truely believe their fate is in their own hands, either they speak out against the radicals 'or' be considered one and the same, the risk and the threat they pose to the world in general should be enough of a red flag warning not to be ignored EVER.
Shine!
2007-08-23 11:46:41 UTC
Regarding the 'dieing' part - yes, it is possible to die to yourself without physically dieing. It is a common theme in Christianity basically meaning that you give up your old way of thinking.
anonymous
2007-08-23 10:59:51 UTC
I don't think they would be a muslim if they rejected Muhammad and Koran. They would then be an Atheists.



And what does this have to do with politics. There is another section for this.
anonymous
2007-08-23 10:57:12 UTC
I dunno, but it sure as heck isn't the Wahabi sect.


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