Why are conservatives falsely quoting the founding fathers again?

Question

‘‘Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants."
- Thomas Jefferson

THOMAS JEFFERSON NEVER SAID THIS:

The quote is actually from Cesare Beccaria's "Essay on Crimes and Punishments". A "commonplace book" is a scrap book, an informal collection of articles, or notes. Just because it's in Jefferson scrap book, doesn't mean he said it.

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This is not something Jefferson wrote, but rather comes from a passage he included in his "Legal Commonplace Book." The passage is from Cesare Beccaria's Essay on Crimes and Punishments.[1] It appears in Jefferson's commonplace book as follows:

http://www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/laws-forbid-carrying-armsquotation

Answer 1

No one said Thomas Jefferson said that, but he did quote from Cesare Beccaria's "Essay on Crimes and Punishments". It doesn't matter who said it, it is still very true! Can you deny that?



Why are liberal gun control bigots always whining about every little detail? It doesn't really matter who said it, it is true!

Answer 2

Your link indicates Thomas Jefferson agreed with the quote he printed.

So what is your beef?

It may not have been an original thought, but he concurred and it is also a statement of Truth.

Liberals seem to hate truth and will pick way at truth in their efforts to distort reality and create specious arguments to convince the foolish that their nefarious ideals are somehow good.

Don't be fooled by their deceptions.

Answer 3

Wether or not Jefferson actually said this makes no difference whatsoever to the fact that the second amendment very clearly states that people have the right to have weapons and the Government has NO right to take them away, no matter how much Libs drool over the prospect.

Answer 4

It happens.



You have to dig to find out it's false, but finding a quote reference that is wrong is easy.



Another false Jefferson quote that I correct my side on is one that reads "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it."



There's plenty of great quotes from the Founding Fathers to support private ownership of arms. No need to use bogus ones.



Here's a 100% authentic TJ quote though. I think you'll like it. "No freeman shall ever be debarred the use of arms."

Answer 5

that's using the fact they lose their reverence as quickly as they locate out what they actually wrote: "We of america, you comprehend, are constitutionally and rigorously democrats." -- Thomas Jefferson; from letter to P. S. Dupont de Nemours (April 24, 1816) "legislators won't be able to invent too many instruments for subdividing assets, in basic terms taking care to enable their subdivisions pass hand in hand with the organic affections of the human suggestions. The descent of assets of all types subsequently to each and all the youngsters, or to each and all the brothers and sisters, or different family in equivalent degree is a politic degree, and a conceivable one. yet another skill of silently lessening the inequality of assets is to exempt all from taxation under a undeniable factor, and to tax the better parts of assets in geometrical progression as they upward push." -- Thomas Jefferson; Letter to James Madison, (Oct. 28, 1785)

Answer 6

What's really funny about Conservative quoting Jefferson on guns is that during his lifetime TJ was well known as a tall red haired nancy boy who by his own admission avoided physical confrontations at all costs

TJ wasn't anything like his arch rival the much shorter Alexander Hamilton who had a nasty habit of not being able to walk away from a fight ...and we all know how that turned out

Answer 7

You must keep in mind they revise their books quite often. They haven't gotten around to doing all the books. So many of them really do believe they have the truth, The whole truth nothing' but. Its such a waste.

Answer 8

Because anybody can put a catchy quote on a cheesy graphic, post it to facebook and count on it being reposted without research. Don't even need email for SPAM anymore.

Answer 9

Apparently you have no understanding of the english language, perhaps you should read this again and find another quote to post!

Answer 10

Most of the quotes attributed to Jefferson and Lincoln by conservatives are false.

Answer 11

So do you profess that Jefferson was against firearms whether that quote came from him or not? You're being asinine again.

Answer 12

Be cause if they look at the constitution objectively and with common sense they will find that their ideas of what our government is supposed to be is completely wrong. Also, if they were honest they'd be liberals.

Answer 13

-Because They're not particularly good at Reading (& getting things Right)- in the FIRST Place ?! ;)

Answer 14

Who that speaks for all conservatives cited that quotation?

Answer 15

Because that's what Conservatives do best.



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Answer 16

If it sells one more book,is okee-dokee.

okee-dokke?

okee-dokee.

That is why.

Answer 17

And this affects me how?

Answer 18

ive never seen any one here quote that,

Answer 19

Our founding fathers were atheist liberals.

Answer 20

Well... the actual quotes tend to disagree with their positions.... so......

Answer 21

Alrighty then.