Question:
If we recognize that ancient Rome was destabilized by mass migrations that poured into it, why do we allow the same thing to happen TODAY?
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2016-04-06 09:48:27 UTC
If we recognize that ancient Rome was destabilized by mass migrations that poured into it, why do we allow the same thing to happen TODAY?
Nineteen answers:
anonymous
2016-04-06 17:17:37 UTC
If we recognize that ancient Rome was destabilized by mass migrations that poured into it, why do we allow the same thing to happen TODAY?

ROFL ... nothing like proving your stupidity , even if it is only YA's ... you haven't a clue as to history or why ROME fell ... LOL !
Andy F
2016-04-06 16:17:03 UTC
Mass migrations are good for business; they mean more poor people willing to work at low-paying jobs and more customers for products sold by capitalist corporations.



Capitalist business interests therefore have a built-in interest in supporting open borders. In the USA, where almost everyone except for the Native Americans is a descendant of immigrants, many people on the left also feel a moral and humanitarian obligation to support new immigrants.



Many religious faiths in the US support immigration as well -- in some cases out of compassion, in some cases because certain religious groups hope and expect to gain more members this way.
Art
2016-04-07 07:45:53 UTC
Actually that is what built Rome into a world force. What killed it was relying on Romans to defend Rome, Christianity and lead piping.
?
2016-04-06 09:52:17 UTC
A break down of morals, the free bread so everyone eats regardless of if they work or produce. There where lots of things that lead to the breakdown of the roman empire, the US is currently following right along with many of them.
Dena
2016-04-06 10:01:32 UTC
because we dont live in ancient Rome? Its not the volume of people infiltrating the US, its the fact that they are coming in illegally. As a result they dont pay into a society and an economy that they benefit from.
Weasel McWeasel
2016-04-06 10:08:25 UTC
Well, if we recognize false facts you make up, then we'd all be idiots. That's not why Rome fell-

Among the leading reasons was the growing spread of Christianity......the vast and endless corruption of the later emperors........the waning military might..........Rome's OVER expansion into territories that they had increasingly little control over..........and the dwindling financial reserves to control it all. Towards the end, Barbarians and other people's they previously conquered started fighting back and re-claiming their territory-----as Rome fell back.
Ron
2016-04-06 09:54:13 UTC
"WE" don't. Its some of the elected leaders. They are rich and secure, they care not about the average hard working men and women.
anonymous
2017-03-13 23:17:07 UTC
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bc we, the west, are an intellectually depleted civilization...



we'v tried almost everything :



empires [that failed spectacularly in the devastating, demoralizing ww i,]



totalitarianism: fascism & communism [ww2, cold war,] -- incomprehensible failures, and



and now, the post-ww2/coldwar ideology of multi-culturalism and 'inclusiveness..."



that has devastated the west w/ the widespread insertion of moslem 5th column cells,



aka no go zones...



hungarian pm viktor orban counts at least 900 immigrant [mostly moslem] no go zones in europe alone :



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Not sure what to say about this the hungarian govt’s fight against the moslem 5th column being seeded throughout europe...

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afp: europe has more than 900 ‘no-go zones’ with large immigrant populations, hungary's government claims

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on a hard-hitting new website aimed at drumming up opposition to a european union scheme to distribute immigrants throughout around the bloc...”

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in these areas with a high number of immigrants such as

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paris, london, stockholm and berlin, the authorities have "little or no control" and

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"norms of the host society barely prevail," the site says...

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"illegal immigrants cross the borders unchecked, so we do not know who they are and what their intentions are...”

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“we do not know how numerous of them are disguised as terrorists," it adds...

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brussels [the eu’s headquarters] has

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no right to "redraw europe's cultural and religious identity,"

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hungarian president viktor orban proclaimed...

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x



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belgium’s 5th column of jihad enablers :

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‘authorities said their hunt for extremists since last november’s attacks in paris have been hindered

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‘by the passive acquiescence on the part of muslim immigrants

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to the presence of “anti-western militants” in their midst...’ [double quotation marks added]

...

x

...

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“a fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group—such as a nation or a besieged city—from within...

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“the activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine...

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“forces gathered in secret can mobilize openly to assist an external attack…”



x

...

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voters’ message to merkel: no more immigrants

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the upstart populist party, the alternative for gernumerous (afd), scored big gains against chancellor angela merkel’s party in the march 13, 2016 elections...

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afd campaigned on an anti-migrant, anti-merkel platform.........



x



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*** “ uk, a swamp of jihadis... ” ***

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" ‘the uk pakistani community is recognised as probably al-qaeda's proper mechanism for launching attacks vs north america,’

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x

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“london became the tuberculosis capital of europe

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due largely to immigration.........”

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x

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“in parts of uk, tb rates are higher than in guatemala, iraq, rwanda and other developing nations,’ uk national health service...



x



the us also has the problem of the rapidly populating [w/ maximum effort by obama] aztlan, the mestizo nationalist partition of the us, engulfing numerous western & sw states...



x



we'v tried almost everything;



we havent tried, but already there's huge resistance to,



the japanese solution --



it's real simple --



lock down the borders,



cut immigration to a trickle of highly vetted, highly desirable immigrants,



if any...



x
anonymous
2017-02-27 05:19:28 UTC
if we recognize that your false claim that the fall of rome was due to immigration, then we could come to the wrong conclusion that we are experiencing that again... but in order to accept your lie we must fundamentally misunderstand the entirety of ancient history...
anonymous
2016-04-06 10:46:36 UTC
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Bc we, the West, are an intellectually depleted civilization.



We'v tried almost everything :



empires [that failed spectacularly in the devastating, demoralizing WW I,]



totalitarianism: fascism & communism [ww2, cold war,] -- incomprehensible failures, and



and now, the post-ww2/coldwar ideology of multi-culturalism and 'inclusiveness."



that has devastated the West w/ the widespread insertion of moslem 5th column cells,



aka No Go Zones.



Hungarian PM Viktor Orban counts at least 900 immigrant [mostly moslem] No Go Zones in Europe alone :



https://www.yahoo.com/news/hungary-says-900-no-areas-europe-104020231.html april 02 2016 French Press Asso (AFP)

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Re: the Hungarian govt’s fight against the moslem 5th column being seeded throughout Europe.

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==

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AFP: Europe has more than 900 ‘No-Go Zones’ with large immigrant populations, Hungary's government claims

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on a hard-hitting new website aimed at drumming up opposition to a European Union scheme to distribute immigrants throughout around the bloc.”

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In these areas with a high number of immigrants such as

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Paris, London, Stockholm and Berlin, the authorities have "little or no control" and

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"norms of the host society barely prevail," the site says.

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"Illegal immigrants cross the borders unchecked, so we do not know who they are and what their intentions are.”

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“We do not know how many of them are disguised as terrorists," it adds.

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Brussels [the EU’s headquarters] has

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no right to "redraw Europe's cultural and religious identity,"

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Hungarian President Viktor Orban proclaimed.

.

x



http://tinyurl.com/zlh9cs4 . Newsweek mar 2016

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Belgium’s 5th column of jihad enablers :

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‘Authorities said their hunt for extremists since last November’s attacks in Paris have been hindered

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‘by the passive acquiescence on the part of Muslim immigrants

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to the presence of “anti-Western militants” in their midst.’ [double quotation marks added]

.

x

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_column

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“A fifth column is any group of people who undermine a larger group—such as a nation or a besieged city—from within.

.

“The activities of a fifth column can be overt or clandestine.

.

“Forces gathered in secret can mobilize openly to assist an external attack…”



x

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http://tinyurl.com/hnyjttn WashPost mar 13 2016

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Voters’ Message to Merkel: No more immigrants

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The upstart populist party, the Alternative for Germany (AfD), scored big gains against chancellor Angela Merkel’s party in the March 13, 2016 elections.

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AfD campaigned on an anti-migrant, anti-Merkel platform...



x



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http://bit.ly/1q3JIFH , Telegraph, UK, Feb, -=> 2009 <=-

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*** “ UK, a swamp of jihadis. ” ***

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" ‘The UK Pakistani community is recognised as probably al-Qaeda's best mechanism for launching attacks vs North America,’

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x

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http://bit.ly/1lBPdaP Telegraph.co.uk. dec, 2010.

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“London became the tuberculosis capital of Europe

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due largely to immigration...”

.

x

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http://tinyurl.com/h9m7nxn modernreaders.com dec 2015

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“In parts of UK, TB rates are higher than in Guatemala, Iraq, Rwanda and other developing nations,’ UK National Health Service.



x



The US also has the problem of the rapidly populating [w/ maximum effort by Obama] Aztlan, the mestizo nationalist partition of the US, engulfing many Western & SW states.



x



we'v tried ALMOST everything;



we havent tried, but already there's huge resistance to,



the Japanese Solution --



it's real simple --



lock down the borders,



cut immigration to a trickle of highly vetted, highly desirable immigrants,



if any.



x
?
2016-04-06 09:51:06 UTC
If we recognize that your false claim that the fall of Rome was due to immigration, then we could come to the wrong conclusion that we are experiencing that again. But in order to accept your lie we must fundamentally misunderstand the entirety of ancient history.
anonymous
2016-04-06 10:03:18 UTC
The Marxists controlling education, pop culture, media and Hollywood. It's too late to save the whole country, best we can do is get our piece when the collapse comes.
dasuberding
2016-04-06 09:51:38 UTC
You are applying historical context to an argument and that's going to confuse liberals. Keep it simple and the words to one, maybe two, syllables. Maybe rephrase the question and context into something like a slogan and apply a hashtag symbol.
anonymous
2016-04-06 09:52:04 UTC
Some of us are smart enough to know that America was made great by mass migrations that poured into it,
anonymous
2016-12-13 06:22:40 UTC
"we" don't......... its some of the elected leaders......... they are rich and secure, they care not about the average hard working men and women.........
anonymous
2016-04-06 23:28:37 UTC
i've said this a thousand times, we dont allow it, jew controlled america allows it .
anonymous
2016-04-06 09:51:44 UTC
Apples and oranges
?
2016-04-06 10:07:00 UTC
That is simply fabrication.
anonymous
2016-04-06 09:53:56 UTC
We are suicidal idiots.


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