Question:
How to stop shootings like Umpqua Community College?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
How to stop shootings like Umpqua Community College?
135 answers:
brettj666
2015-10-02 11:58:11 UTC
If half of America has the mind set "Why should I pay to contribute to the health of my fellow man", then all the energy spent talking about Mental Health is moot.



Secondly, it makes the assumption that people that commit these shootings are mentally ill instead of just being a petty petty person with nothing to live for.



I'm sorry, if you think "Banning the guns" will increase the violence, you may want to take off your "US is the only country that matters" blinders and look at Australia (already mentioned) and Canada.



For the longest time UK Police didn't carry firearms (not sure if they do now) and you'd think being unarmed police would be killed all the time, but it was rare. A police officer in the UK had a higher danger of being hit by a car than killed by a gun.



The real truth is in the UTTER and unending love of Capitalism in the US.

Guns, like healthcare and prisons and money makers.



If 'the man' can make you so fearful that you would take a life over losing your stuff, then they profit.

How much money does the NRA put into politics to make sure there is never a hint of a change?



Any person or organization that puts so much money into preventing one thing, you should ask yourself why.



When guns are cheap, they will be bought. And if the 'cost' to rob someone is far less than the potential take, you make it attractive.



Aren't guns that are used in these types of shootings usually legally obtained?

Sandy Hook was, the Church shooting was.



Within two days of Sandy Hook, a man in China took a knife into a day care.. Stabbed teachers and children, 16 or 17 of them.

No fatalities.



With a knife, you can do volume or damage, but not both.



When you put SO MUCH effort into the excuse, it's clear you don't want to deal with the problem.





So, when you ask "how do we stop shootings" (without really trying to limit guns, my answer is this



MOVE

Get out of the US. the gun laws only apply to that country, moving to Australia don't mean you can take your 2nd amendment rights with you.



Until you care more about people than profit, there will always be there things.





Also, understanding that the 2nd amendment happened 60 years before hand guns were first manufactured.

If your founding fathers could imagine assault rifles and the NRA, maybe they would have been more careful in their wording.
yamnnjr
2015-10-01 15:06:46 UTC
It's easy, ensure that people that know how to use guns can actually access and use them because the vast majority, like everyone except that one lunatic, actually wants the people around them to live, and all it takes is one or two bullets before the gunman realizes he needs to stop focusing and shooting people and start focusing on not getting shot.



And chances are, that one or two shots are going to hit the gunman and bring him down anyway.



But even if they don't, he suddenly has more to worry about than shooting everyone he sees.



Just about every time there has been an incident where someone with a gun was around the massacre was stopped dead in its tracks either by a shoot-out where the gunman was focusing on not getting hit, or because the gunman was actually hit and stopped that way.



As dumb as your typical liberal is, even they know to clear the area when shots are being fired. A shoot-out is not likely to hit anyone other than the lunatic or the guy/s/gal/s defending everyone from the lunatic because everyone else will be running to get away from the bullets.
Smokies Hiker
2015-10-01 17:03:17 UTC
I guess maybe all public facilities like schools, colleges, hospitals, grocery stores, shopping malls, etc., will need to have metal detectors, x-ray machines, body scanners like the airports have. You'll need to pass through these detectors in order to gain access to the facilities inside. Until the time when people who need help receive the psychiatric help they need, our society will continue its decline. You're correct about guns not being the problem. The individuals that commit these crimes could never have purchased a gun in about 95% of the recent cases. There are many more types of weapons than just guns available that will do serious harm, and can be purchased on the way to the target. When states started closing mental facilities and the "residents" were put out on the street, these problems began. It's a different society now than it was 25 years ago. No one wants to take responsibility for a person that has problems functioning on their own. We want to look the other way and hope someone helps this person before they injure themselves or another person.
Jack
2015-10-02 15:03:11 UTC
I have read through many of the answers and responding comments and I'm surprised at how few address the underlining morals issues and how many are stuck on the surface reactive issues.

I realize many are afraid to mention religious up-bringing, so let us look at this from the point of lack of morals and the basic human right to Live.

I don't believe that guns are the underling issue, it's more the lack of the value of life. I almost don't want to say this but, Hollywood and electronic gaming are not as much at fault as is the way children are raised.

I grew up in suburbia America. As a child I played with toy guns, the good guys and bad guys, cowboys and Indians type games. As a young teen I was taught how to handle, respect and use a real gun. As an adult I have the means to use a gun, if needed. I have even been robbed, at gun point!

None of this as ever led me to believe I can use a gun to kill people like shooting into a fish bowl.



WHY?



I appreciate that my parents, community, religion & life have taught me the difference between good & bad, right & wrong, good & evil, Life & Death.

So maybe the answers here lie more in basic humanism taught and learned from early childhood and enforced as we get older.

Anger management should begin with not giving attention to a toddler throwing a tantrum. Letting children experience that getting hit hurts. That blood is a source of life, not a red splotch on a movie screen. And maybe, just maybe, teach them about 'Hell' not 72 virgins.

Attacking guns is like putting a bandaid on a wound caused by a nail without taking the nail out first.
Joseph
2015-10-01 18:04:15 UTC
If guns were banned you dumb ****, only the criminals would have them. That comment is for the liberal retards answer. My belief is an armed community is a polite community. I think they need to allow CCW students to carry their concealed firearms in schools. The liberals have this crazy idea that if people were to carry guns in more places than people would use their firearms to solve everyday confrontations. I guess that why there's so many shootings at gun shows and if gun control really works than colleges should be among the safest places in the country. There is a college out west I forget what state but they allow open carry and CCW and so far no shootings in the past couple of years they allowed their students to carry. Gee, I wonder why?
2015-10-02 02:21:28 UTC
No banning guns is not stupid. Tell me where in the civilised, democratic, western world this happens more frequently than the USA. The answer is nowhere.



If you want to stop this happening completely you can forget it. That's never going to happen. We've had horrific incidents like this in the UK and Europe.



Americans as a nation need to change their attitude towards guns. You need to ask yourself what is more important to you: is it young people's lives or is it the right to carry a gun? In a society where carrying a gun is almost a civic right there will be lots of guns around. I don't blame the gun as a thing itself but in the USA they're just far too easy to get hold of.



In Western Europe we have far fewer such incidents because of our laws regarding guns. Yes some nut is always going to do something like this. It isn't the existence of guns that cause this but the idiots that use them. However, in a society where possessing a gun isn't the norm, where there are fewer guns in circulation and where getting hold of a gun is much more difficult incidents like these are much less likely.



I don't think your President or Congress should now rush to enact a law banning guns. Knee-jerk reaction laws are always bad laws. I think as a nation you need to have a conversation and decide where your priorities lie. If enough sensible people come out and are brave enough to say too many guns in society is a bad thing the powerful gun lobby can be beaten.



I hope that those who have lost their lives haven't died in vain and Americans decide enough is enough.
Cath.Ian
2015-10-02 00:56:21 UTC
How to stop shootings? And you say you haven't had a sensible answer, so try these:

1. drastically reduce the number of guns in circulation. Of course you will never get rid of them, but we are talking damage limitation here.

2. Try to address the cultural factors involved, the first being the belief that anyone has to have and has the right to own a gun (the latter usually eliciting a circular argument from proponents of gun ownership).

3. In the long term seek to reduce the gratuitous violence and gun use in the so called entertainment media. If Hollywood were to be run by artists rather than accountants it could strike out in some new (or old!) directions where moral problems are addressed rather than blasted out of existence. (I have always thought that the major national trauma caused by the Vietnam War was heightened because a generation, those who fought it, had been raised on the pap of glorified violence and the unrealistic portrayal of the horrific damage which is done by modern firearms.)

3) Attempt to drag kicking and screaming into modernity the outdated, and frankly spurious, myths about the incredibly brief 'history' of the country (compared with most). An educated populace which makes decisions based on knowledge and the true application of reason (surely both dear to the hearts of your founding fathers) rather than exhibiting an endless series of knee-jerk Pavlovian reactions to the empty keywords so beloved of your sham politicians.
Chris
2015-10-01 16:31:14 UTC
Make counseling/ Anger management a required class in middle school, high school,college....have training at work on anger management once a month at every JOB. Teach children not to be mean. The problem is we treat other people horrible these days. What's wrong with smiling at someone or say Good Morning or good afternoon. We need to teach our children that some are less fortunate than us but that doesn't mean we should teach them any different
2015-10-04 09:51:21 UTC
There should be mental health or background checks for every gun purchase.



But eliminating school buildings is a joke. Then the shooters will just move on to other places filled with innocent people - hospitals, public parks, movie theatres, etc.. And if we got rid of those too, it would just go on and on... Instead of blaming the school buildings, blame the fact that these shooters can get guns in the first place without any questions asked even if they are an insane criminal.
?
2015-10-01 18:34:05 UTC
It would seem without school buildings there would be no place for these nutjobs to shoot children so the easiest thing to do is eliminate school buildings. Think of the cost savings, one instructor could teach literally thousands. Computer is all a student would need. For the libs out there, think how much greener the planet would be without all the buses and gas used to get to school buildings. A lot of teachers and college professors would have to get real jobs and start being productive. There are no guns in my solution, and property taxes should go down.
Knuckles
2015-10-01 21:49:49 UTC
Quite simply, in America, due to the exceedingly high proliferation of firearms throughout the country, legal and illegal, without complete social upheaval, you can not stop this type of shooting.

You can try to move to somewhere within the country that is "statistically" safer. You could even move to another country that is "statistically" safer, but, like motor vehicle accidents, you simply cannot stop the acts of random individuals. Nowhere is safe.

The ONLY thing people CAN do with situations like this is when someone goes on the Internet or Social Media BEFOREHAND, announcing they are going to DO something like this, is to EDUCATE people seeing these messages to a) TAKE IT SERIOUSLY, and b) REPORT it to the Police, rather than DISMISSING it or treating it as a joke and ENCOURAGING it.

If the authorities had a) been Alerted, and b) had legal power to search the Property for a cache of weapons / plans, this may have been avoided
LINDA R
2015-10-01 12:02:22 UTC
Make sure everyone is armed...
A thought
2015-10-02 18:27:55 UTC
Make sure children grow up right
Joshua
2015-10-02 13:22:03 UTC
Typical Liberal college campus. Decries guns but calls the police to save them even thought that may take 5-10 minutes in an emergency. Nothing deters armed wackos than a group of people willing to shoot back.
sconlan
2015-10-02 05:14:46 UTC
Why is banning guns stupid? What a moronic thing to say...



I live in Australia where guns are mostly banned. I am 32 years old and have never seen a gun and I don t ever want to see a gun. No one I know has ever seen or used a gun. They are really something that pretty much doesn t exist here. I never have to worry about school shootings or being shot myself. Yes there is a chance of a shooting happening here, but it is extremely unlikely. So unlikely that there is never a need to even think about it. Pretty much every Australian I speak too is amazed at the stupidity of America ever time we see another school shooting.



Americans say "If guns were banned only the criminals would have them."... That s really NOT the case. Most criminals in Australia don t have guns. If you don t believe me come to Australia. See for your self. In fact I challenge you... Come to Australia and try to get a gun. I can t even imagine where you would begin. I ve been into drug distribution in the past and I still have never seen a gun. That s how rare they are here.



I can t believe you actually you actually think it would be best to hide in your home and be home schooled because of a fear of guns... But banning them is stupid?



I will never visit America mostly because of your love of guns. It is my personal opinion that anyone that like guns and wants guns to be a part of society is a nut job, potentially psychotic and is no better that someone who would perform a school shooting. Because if you believe everyone should have access to guns then YOU put the gun in the hand of the man who performs the school shooting... Really we should just put everyone that likes guns on an island and let them shoot each other... OH WAIT We already did. It s called America.



I am PROUD to live in a place where I NEVER have to worry about guns!!!



Here s a question for America. Why is it every mans right to have a gun, but it s not every mans right to have nuclear weapons? If the best way to ensure no one shoots you is for everyone to have guns, then surely the best way for no nuclear weapons to ever be used is for everyone to have nuclear weapons. Right?
Mr. Wizard
2015-10-01 20:00:19 UTC
Murderous psychos and criminals WILL IGNORE GUN CONTROL LAWS: Keep that wise chestnut in mind, BEFORE posing gun control law passage suggestions; don't go off sounding stupid like Obama on this point.



And will someone PLEASE tell Obama to shut the hell up???



Sadly, gun proliferation is too grand scale in the world to offer any solid means for protecting society from gun rage massacres. The best means of protecting yourself and others nearby is to be AWARE of your immediate area for an flash point evacuation plan IF necessary / possible and be OBSERVANT for any suspicious people; make good use of cellphones by either recording video of the individual to send to local police or speed dial call law enforcement for help.



The very threats we face TODAY have ALWAYS been there decades past---so don't lament this is an emerging new social threat problem; it's just one that has erupted into boil-over.
jimmy
2015-10-01 18:24:56 UTC
one armed person could have stopped that rampage COLD!
john
2015-10-02 11:15:50 UTC
let the students and guards carry guns

a GUN FREE ZONE IS A VICTIM ZONE

notice they only shoot up the gun free zones



no one ever shot up a GUN SHOW
?
2015-10-01 16:52:59 UTC
The best way to prevent shootings like this is to establish better mental health care millions of people have guns and have the ability to do something like this with the guns they own but all sane people would never imagine doing a horrible thing like this there are so few shootings in comparison to how many people own guns most people like 99% of gun owners can use a gun responsibly only the few people who are unstable will use a gun irresponsibly if there is better mental health care it will prevent the people who are mentally unstable from having guns and get them the help they need banning guns for everyone is stupid because the mentally unstable people who want to commit a crime like this will find a way to get a gun no matter what laws are around to prevent people from having guns there just needs to be better mental health care to prevent the people who are mentally unstable from doing these things and make sure they get help before they make a choice to do something like this
2015-10-01 18:31:59 UTC
This is going to keep happening until the majority of the population accepts that (and stops blindly defending) law enforcement, the criminal justice system, mental health, psychology, psychiatry, and many other get rich quick schemes are all shams (go look at how many lawsuits from SSRI drugs are JUST starting to come up, from drugs that got FDA approval 20+ years go), and not effective; then people would have to be willing to limit who can reproduce by both genetic and socioeconmic (lack of mental ilness, lack of criminal record, military status, employment status, income status, ect) factors by giving boys a vasectomy that could only be reversed though an application process.



The only way to stop these types of things is to cut the cancer itself out (which is itself bad people that are able to reproduce and make more bad people); and not treat symptoms and hail people that make the problems worse (cops, district attorneys, or anyone that defends the justice department).



Mean come on, seriously - our next 4 presidents are more than likely going to be elected soley on their position of gun control; these attacks happen even in states and counties that have strict "gun free zones". You can't stop bad people from getting guns, but you can stop bad people from ever existing, then infringing on the rights of others.



Learn from history, don't condemn it - the majority of the population (and yahoo) already accept (negative) eugenics as both moral and the norm.
2015-10-02 10:55:27 UTC
Improving mental health facilities and adding mental health resources to suburban and rural areas of the United States. A good start is training school staff and counselers to spot red flags as early as possible in childhood and therapize those children.



Guns are NOT the problem. Banning guns to stop this issue is like banning banks to stop robberies. There has to be better resources and training for those that work with children, the earlier the better.
Bob
2015-10-04 13:02:39 UTC
I grew up in the 1960's, my 2 best friends in H.S. had handguns, rifles etc.

We could buy ammo at the local sports shop, the owners knew our parents and trusted us. We took gun safety classes and learned to respect guns.

First we could have gun safety courses, at least teach kids guns are not play things. A lot of trouble starts when some young kids find a gun hidden away at home and start playing with it, pointing it at each other.



Today's teenagers have easy access to R rated movies, I see those vending machines where I live and you can rent movies with a credit card. I'm not saying they are the cause but I don't approve of them

Also kids today are being giving Rx drugs, sometimes they become a problem too.
?
2015-10-01 14:11:27 UTC
Improve peoples level of happiness. America is low on the happiness meter compared to other countries. Where as one time we led the world in many things from medicine to education now we are starkly behind many. Our health care system sucked up until recently and it still needs crucial work. This country is in dept up to its eyeballs and our military receives more money a year than our education systems. Controlling guns wont fix the problem it will just turn school shooting to school stabbings, or force already unhinged or damaged kids and adults to devise more unique ways to exact their perceived needed revenge and crimes.



When America gets past its trauma from 911 and gets past its war inundated mind and gets past this need to promote the well being of business over the happiness of its citizens, when America decides that we the people are once again more important than money and power it again will be a great nation and this gun control issue and school shootings will decrease and become just bitter memories of the past.
Fly G
2015-10-01 19:38:38 UTC
Get the problem at the root:



- Poor mental health stemming from many reasons, often cultural rot and decay, lack of love and nurture

- The notion that shooting and killing people is somehow cool. Reinforced by endless video games and movies.

- AKA, the desire to be a "badass", one of many terms glorifying.. well, bad behavior of all types



If everyone took a serious oath to never do harm to another human being, for any reason.. and always help whenever it is needed.. and consider everyone equally deserving of respect and resources.... not only would no one consider pointing a gun at someone... but social decay wouldn't have a chance to form.



It's called doing unto others.



In any society where this is first priority, there would be lots of love, equal opportunity, understanding, good spirit. There'd be no bullying, oppression, poverty, or any other reason for anyone to lash out in hatred or snap completely.



The answer to all of our problems is love, do unto others, forgiveness. But less spoken of is to NEVER view someone else's evil to justify doing more evil. It snowballs. Hey, someone else started it. Started this whole mess. We heal hate with love and forgiveness. By showing individuals and entire societies their good qualities and accomplishments and reward them... rather than pointing and lashing out at their wrongdoings, villifying them. Hate and revenge is a virus, but love is just as catching... and our only antidote.
?
2015-10-04 09:15:49 UTC
We as people don't have the solution to this problem or any others because the problem is beyond us, so too the solution is too. These issuses go beyond the United States and affect people on a global scale. Look at Isis. Look at Syria and the people swimming to Greece to find refuge. These things are huge. But the solution is simple. Psalms 37:9-11 says God, Jehovah, will get rid of all the bad, wicked, people. And you ll look and he won't be there. But the meek will possess the earth. Problem solved. Want to learn more, see www.jw.org.
trurider t
2015-10-01 21:59:02 UTC
Saying BAN GUNS is NOT STUPID. Having a Country full of Guns IS. The ability to Own Guns does not protect people as if it did, then this sort of thing would not keep happening. Also the argument that Guns don't kill is total BS. They do, in the hands of those humans that use them. Name me the last time a Cat shot a human. Americans don't understand how having a country without guns as most of the world is, is nice and safe. American youth want free drugs. Add Guns to that and this will become a weekly occurrence.
?
2015-10-01 21:31:05 UTC
No easy answer because it's a complex problem...one item that seems to run through all of these mass shootings is that there were signs in each and every case that the person(s) had mental issues and were reaching out. Whether it be though friends, coworkers, parents, siblings or doctors they were changing

mentally in some way and the signs were ignored.

I expect this case will be no different.
2015-10-02 09:21:03 UTC
It may surprise some retarded people who have never been out of town but some people need guns for protection from a variety of circumstances such as wild animals and criminals. There is no way to depend upon police protection when the nearest officer is 30 miles away. If he could average 60 miles per hour he couldn't get to you in less than 15 minutes.



In fire fighting we learn three things are needed to have fire. Oxygen, fuel and heat. If you remove one of these there will be no fire. So if we remove some of the things that produce gun violence at schools there will be no gun violence at schools. What to remove. Guns, Shooters (mental cases) and schools.



Now if you are looking to prevent people from having guns because they are mentally ill should they really be at the school?



Before we can remove all guns we need to remove laws that say gun laws are illegal. If you understand English that is what the Second Amendment says. To do that you need a new amendment. Have any gun law proponents proposed such an amendment? The answer is no. The number of retards who think you can just pass another law that is different from the law we have now that have made such a proposal is zero.



You say don't give any stupid answers well we apparently have a lot of stupid people. None of us wants to properly address this issue. Out of 320,000,000 people here no one has written or proposed an amendment that can address the issue legislatively according to the Constitution.



The Constitution says how our government is supposed to work. If you want to solve legislative, executive and judicial problems you need to read what the Constitution says is the way to do it. Voters only elect people. If the voters don't like the way you solve problems they won't vote for you.



You still have to solve the problems or we are doomed.
?
2015-10-01 14:52:28 UTC
Ban crisis actors, defund the BATF, & FBI. Problem solved. Not many school shootings from the 1960's to the 1990's. I can only recall Charles Whitman, and he had a massive brain tumor. It's all manipulated from within our own government, research it for yourself. Put your blinders on, or put on your reading glasses. So many false flags it hard to tell.

Sic Semper Tyrannous.
TTown
2015-10-02 09:46:03 UTC
The retards like Obama would say take away the guns, from people who abide by the law and let the criminals have them all. That way we can all be slaughtered like sheep.



Why wasn't there at least one armed guard at the school? It's moronic to hink you are not a target if you are in a un free zone, ALL THE SHOOTINGS HAPPEN IN GUN FREE ZONES! Wake up and learn.
Cajunboy
2015-10-01 20:47:41 UTC
Anyone who say's things like, "It's easy" or "all you have to do" does not get out much and certainly does not watch National and Local News. There's no easy answer. But I was of the impression that Obama Administration were off to a good start by suggesting that Detailed Police Officers work extra hours and Paying and Training Teachers, Instructors and local experienced family members to work and walk the Halls. Knowledge and Training is the answer. If a state doesn't think a life is more important than money ....shame on them. We waste more money, time and effort on statistics on bullfrog mating, Whether Mars has water or not, and what Celebrities are wearing and how they comb their hairs than we do protecting and securing our future which is our children and their education. They will have to determine the future and progress and success of our Nation.
?
2015-10-02 00:11:59 UTC
Anyone who say's things like, "It's easy" or "all you have to do" does not get out much and certainly does not watch National and Local News. There's no easy answer. But I was of the impression that Obama Administration were off to a good start by suggesting that Detailed Police Officers work extra hours and Paying and Training Teachers, Instructors and local experienced family members to work and walk the Halls. Knowledge and Training is the answer. If a state doesn't think a life is more important than money ....shame on them. We waste more money, time and effort on statistics on bullfrog mating, Whether Mars has water or not, and what Celebrities are wearing and how they comb their hairs than we do protecting and securing our future which is our children and their education. They will have to determine the future and progress and success of our Nation.
?
2015-10-02 11:50:58 UTC
All I'm saying is that if one person in that building were carrying a firearm, then the shooter could've been stopped a whole lot faster. For the libtards, if you take away guns it will not solve the problem, the people that commit crimes do not obey the law anyways, so making guns illegal would only take from law abiding citizens.
Mtn girl 48
2015-10-02 19:40:21 UTC
I thought the issue of metal detectors at all school entrances was decided a while back. We need to implement right away.

Also let students know if someone is acting weird, to tell a teacher or counselor and don't just let that person continue to suffer in their mind. Kids need to get over the snitch mentality.
2015-10-02 13:33:55 UTC
Every mass shooting in the US in the last 50 years took place in a so-called "gun-free zone," and every one of them ended when it encountered armed resistance, either from police or from armed citizens.



After the Maalot massacre, the Israelis began a program of having armed volunteers in their schools. The volunteers carry automatic rifles, and they are trained by the police or military. The only mass shooting of Israeli school children since then took place during a field trip to a park on the Jordanian border. At the request of the Jordanian government, the chaperones were unarmed.
Zack
2015-10-01 20:53:59 UTC
Don't ******* ban guns!! If every community had them, that shooter woulda had his *** shot like crazy. I vote that every stable American should be able to carry if they choose to. Maybe if we actually had a good president... Obama is the worst president ever. Maybe if Obama stopped trying to control guns, this shooting wouldn't have happened. Because guess what? That's why I have my concealed carry permit. So when **** hits the fan, I'm ready.
2015-10-01 23:00:14 UTC
It's easy ban guns, this wasn't a gun free zone Oregon has passed law saying this last year, I'm amazed so many shootings have occurred, this was the 45th school shooting in the USA this year and since sandy hook there's been 147 counts of mass shootings. There needs to be change Australia, Japan and England are examples of gun control working, in Japan you can't even buy a pistol in some areas and they haven't had any mass shootings. But countries like Switzerland and the USA will always have shootings because many people are too thick to understand there will be more safety if you ban all guns but it won't happen because groups like the NRA and the Republicans share at least one brain cell between them and are evil so there's gonna be a hell of a lot more to come sadly.
Linda R
2015-10-02 07:29:37 UTC
Until there is a sharp climb in building 'mental facilities' ..... this will continue.

Eons ago, EVERY state had tons of mental institutions and there were no

mentally ill people walking around on the streets. They were in a 'specialized'

facility and monitored. Then, nearly ALL mental facilities were closed down...

leaving the mentally ill patients in group homes or returned to live with their

families. While living in group homes....local companies hired them to do

menial tasks (like counting things to place in bags). This also meant, after

work....unless they returned right back to where they lived....they were just

roaming around on the streets. As for those who lived with their family...

most just sat the person in front of a TV or play with video games because

they did NOT know how to 'deal with it'.

Those roaming the streets, most often, committed crimes and ended up

in prisons..........then it was the responsibility of the prison to 'deal with them'.

Until their is a sharp rise in building 'mental facilities' again........this will continue.
?
2015-10-01 21:19:49 UTC
Treat school students like people who might kill you if you disrespect them. Killings, bullying, and suicide are becoming pretty standard at these institutions. Most of these shooters are young people targeting their schools. We should look at what we can do to make these places more respectful and less like prisons.

The simplest and most easy thing one can do as an individual is try to treat people with respect or at least leave them alone so you don't push them over the edge.
vincenzo
2015-10-01 22:01:57 UTC
Canada was built on war and ironically has one of the lowest gun crime rate.



why?



Because:A license is required to own or possess firearms. Federal government safety course required before applying for a license. Special license required to own pistols. Pistols may only be used for target shooting at a licensed range. Semi automatic firearms have size restricted magazines (rimfire rifles excluded) Automatic firearms not permitted.



As a developed nation America should to the same. :)
Ryan E
2015-10-01 16:25:56 UTC
The only way to stop it is to exercise your second amendment right to carry a weapon. To say take your classes online and we wouldn't have this discussion is rediculous. We atleast me, I'm not gonna lock myself in my house for the rest of my life. If you can't defend yourself with your own two hands then get somebody or something to get it done. Just my opinion. You need to be able to defend yourself especially in this world I'm coming up in.
?
2015-10-01 22:56:44 UTC
Make counseling/ Anger management a required class in middle school, high school,college....have training at work on anger management once a month at every JOB. Teach children not to be mean. The problem is we treat other
?
2015-10-01 21:08:17 UTC
Personally I think that psychologist should be assigned a group of students to appraise their students mental and physical states, because with today's chemically induced fertilizer, bullying, peer pressure and low esteem of themselves, such things can be detected before any unstable actions occur within the educational systems.
?
2015-10-01 16:45:37 UTC
I'm not for banning guns. I just believe we need to have background checks for past crimes or past psychological disorders, also, we should have psychological screening for CURRENT and future possible disorders in order to make sure that the person that gets a gun isn't going to go on a massacre.
Brigalow Bloke
2015-10-01 18:37:56 UTC
Another mass shooting in the USA. Quick, blame a Muslim / atheist / Catholic / Freemason / liberal / Sikh / Hindu / Shinto / conservative / Buddhist (insert whatever group you dislike here).



Blame anyone or anything but untreated and unrecognised mental illness and the availability of unnecessary weapons.



You lot are so predictable.



(Well regulated militia? The Swiss have one of those, the USA does not)
A.S.A.P
2015-10-01 14:12:50 UTC
If people weren't so horrible people wouldn't resort to these things as humans we push people to the brink and then tell them they are crazy. I laugh at this, society is so messed up and these things will continue to happen. Whenever they happen I feel a mixture of sadness and relief that everytime this happens people wake up to how they 'outcast' people. Revenge is a you know what.
?
2015-10-01 20:26:47 UTC
It's easy by placing armed security guards in every school, allow students to carry firearms lawfully which this school allowed until 2013 and now look what happened, more research in mental health. Gun Free Zones are leaving students and teachers defenseless at the hands of terrorist!
?
2015-10-01 23:14:07 UTC
I doubt putting up a sign that says no gun is really going to stop a person from shooting.
M
2015-10-01 12:12:09 UTC
Simple. All we need to do is stop giving recognition to these shooters.



In fact, I'd bet that if we stopped crediting the shooter in the media, these "mass shootings" will stop happening completely.
Edward
2015-10-01 20:21:51 UTC
More people in that school an all others should be armed.The nut jobs that do these shootings pick places where few are armed.
?
2015-10-02 14:22:37 UTC
Prayer
2015-10-03 11:26:44 UTC
Encourage firearm carrying and ownership, make self defense classes mandatory. Bam, there goes more than half the violence in the entire country. Because a criminal would know if they tried something, they would probably end up with a gunshot wound.
Towanda
2015-10-01 22:11:22 UTC
I have no idea but I do think we need to open the mental institutions that Reagan closed years ago. I remember that day as I watched a line of people saunter down the street with no idea of where to go or when to take their meds.
creed
2015-10-01 21:27:08 UTC
& what, your response by hiding yourself in your "room" to earn an education would resolve all matters?...& it's 'intelligent' to respond in such a manner without thinking of the implications of your response? society has become more isolated, these people that are committing these crimes are isolated people, yet your response is to isolate yourself. I believe that your beliefs will allow You to become the next fool out there committing crimes like this. society itself needs to change, respect for life needs to be implemented, quality of life needs to be the main ingredient, & it needs to extend to everyone, whatever goes on in the mind of the person implementing these crimes are the same things that go on in everyone's mind about the incident, kill the bad people...just take a look @ the comments & the 'righteousness' of all your responders, considering pulling More guns out, stating that the 'rights' that we have today were 'in fact' the rights that were given to us through the constitution. there are many more aspects to this question that you ask, that evidently you haven't thought through. biggest thing you should be looking @ is why do we allow all this to happen...this world is simply messed up...figuring out how we got here is ONE HUGE WAY to determine how to fix it....& the internet will NOT help this subject in the least. your intelligence needs to expand from simple media, my young, but attempting idealistic individual
joe
2015-10-04 17:30:02 UTC
I saw something I thought was a good idea through Facebook. We have thousands of highly trained, lethal, unemployed veterans. Throw 3-4 of them in schools. They get jobs, people stay safe!
?
2015-10-02 15:48:36 UTC
I'm from Oregon and we had a huge conversation about this. They said we should put security's to guard. Since it was a public place they don't really put anyone to guard so people want that to change.
JOHN G
2015-10-02 02:43:16 UTC
It seems to me in the UK that many Americans are starting to except this as a way of life, that the sad point, why the obsessions with guns?, to most people in Europe it seems pointless in the 21st century, you need some sort of psychological testing programme.
justa
2015-10-02 06:28:42 UTC
You can't. There isn't any way, and you can't ban guns because we still have great grandpas gun from the civil war in the attic and someone can find it and still shot people. We could be more proactive regarding mental illness, but its impossible to determine the success of something that doesn't happen by the fact that it didn't happen.
-
2015-10-01 17:32:50 UTC
If Guns were banned people wouldn't be able to shoot each other. Gun control was put in place in Australia with a large degree of success.

The problem with the USA is your "right to bear arms". This simply puts guns within every ones reach. Yes...yes most people are responsibly gun owners but you have millions and millions of guns and it's so easy to get hold of one that your lunatics are just blowing innocent people away. Quite frankly, each time I now see that there was another massacre in the USA I just think... so what. Only have yourselves to blame.
2015-10-01 12:00:53 UTC
You ban guns, that's how. I understand that it'll take decades before they truly begin to vanish, but they will vanish one day. Banning them is the first step, and must be taken. Until guns are banned, things like this will continue to happen.
Julian
2015-10-01 12:00:39 UTC
Well look at what happened to James Holmes. He isn't even getting the death penalty. Maybe if we beheaded people publicly like they do in Saudi Arabia that might get the message across.
?
2015-10-01 18:59:08 UTC
Everyone here answering is stupid, **** like this will never stop theres no anwser to stopping violence its in our nature, look at how ruthless animals are, were animals too just with greater thinking/feeling and everything else.
Bug
2015-10-01 12:01:57 UTC
We can't stop them. Our politicians are cowards.

The best we can do is hope and pray we're not victims the next time.



Just another day in America.
Shareef_009
2015-10-01 11:58:00 UTC
Metal detectors at the very least. Police officers stationed at the community colleges instead of rentacops.
smsmith500
2015-10-01 21:13:53 UTC
Armed and trained security people would be a good idea. We have plenty of soldiers that need a job. People that do this sort of thing are crazy, but usually won't want to get return fire right away.
2015-10-01 12:09:20 UTC
How do you balance a budget? And don't say raise taxes or cut spending because that's just stupid.



Stupid would be to not notice the DRAMATIC decrease in gun deaths in the UK and Australia when they enacted gun control legislation.
2015-10-01 14:45:06 UTC
No to more gun laws. Yes to To improving the mental health laws in

this country. Put the crazy's away. And most of your problems are

taken care of.
jordan
2015-10-01 12:22:13 UTC
Banning is only an option for Conservatives when it comes to banning abortion, birth control or gay marriage, otherwise we are told bans don't work! So bans are good sometimes, other times, not so much...
rainmaker
2015-10-05 11:03:05 UTC
We will not! take away all the guns these nut jobs will use gasoline or something else. It is mean and mentally ill people that do the killings

Life means nothing to a lot of people!
2015-10-01 14:31:23 UTC
allow students or faculty to carry firearms. that way they can take out the shooter faster than dialing 911. cops take more than 5 minutes a bullet takes less than a second depending on distance. id much rather have 1 dead shooter vs 1 dead "innocent"
Cull
2015-10-01 17:14:48 UTC
Arm everyone. Mental health risks will be eliminated soon. On a side note I am sure will find out he was a crazed dumb sheeet that everyone new was a ticking timebomb.
You
2015-10-01 17:51:31 UTC
Just make it harder (for lack of a better word) to get guns. The person must be psychologically stable, and generally a good person before they should be allowed to purchase a weapon.
kim
2015-10-01 17:51:11 UTC
Have an armed person in each classroom. Let them work off their college tution
?
2015-10-02 19:39:20 UTC
Make everyone wear a bullet proof vest and a bullet proof helmet and carry around armor shields
retired
2015-10-01 14:10:26 UTC
i think we need to do a better job at terriosm I feel like maybe these shootings is because our people are brainwashed by terrorism and then sent back home to commit these acts
2015-10-01 11:58:04 UTC
Libtards will say ban them, even though you'll be able to get a black market ak47 for less than a thousand bucks. I say just change the culture of society. You don't simply want to shoot people when you're "mentally ill."
2015-10-01 17:14:45 UTC
Throw every white guy in a mental ward, I am not even racist but tbh its only white people really shooting up schools tbh.
?
2015-10-03 11:01:09 UTC
Band guns
GEORGE B
2015-10-03 06:29:38 UTC
So long as our political leaders, like Barack Obama has done, fan the flames of victimhood and entitlements and then call for violence to solve our problems, then incidents like this one will surely happen again in the future.



You cannot go around fanning the flames of discontent, calling for violence, and then deny your culpability and responsibility when someone acts on the words you urged them to accept..... like Obama has done.



Obama..... in his own words.....



No one has done more in last several decades with his inflammatory community organizer rhetoric to divide this country than has Barack Obama.



“They Bring a Knife…We Bring a Gun” - Barack Obama



“Get in Their Faces!” - Barack Obama



“I don’t want to quell anger. I think people are right to be angry! I’m angry!” - Barack Obama



“Hit Back Twice As Hard” - Barack Obama



“We talk to these folks… so I know whose *** to kick.“ - Barack Obama



"Republican victory would mean “hand to hand combat” - Barack Obama



“It’s time to Fight for it.” - Barack Obama



“My administration is the only thing between you and the pitchforks.” - Barack Obama



“I will be happy to see the Republicans test whether or not I’m itching for a fight on a whole range of issues. I suspect they will find I am.” - Barack Obama



“It’s tempting not to negotiate with hostage takers” - Barack Obama



“We’re going to punish our enemies" - Barack Obama



“Those aren’t the kinds of folks who represent our core American values.” - Barack Obama
thegreatone
2015-10-01 18:42:58 UTC
There's no stopping them.



It's going to keep happening no matter what the case.
?
2015-10-01 14:33:17 UTC
It's going to get to the point where they will need armed guards at schools. In fact we have reached that point.
Dennis
2015-10-03 11:34:54 UTC
Eliminate gun free zones.....allow concealed carry without permits, like Wyoming and Alaska do. Wack-Jobs target gun free zones for a reason.
DonnieB
2015-10-02 07:59:30 UTC
Unfortunately those who rail for more gun control do NOT have evidence on their side. I would point you to a Harvard study ( http://www.law.harvard.edu/students/orgs/jlpp/Vol30_No2_KatesMauseronline.pdf ) the refutes your argument. The conclusion, "“where firearms are most dense violent crime rates are lowest,

and where guns are least dense violent crime rates are highest.."



Facts are stubborn things.
?
2015-10-01 21:11:25 UTC
I don't believe that there is a proper scientific answer. However, we don't have that problem here in Australia. There are no gun shops down under.
?
2015-10-03 09:13:21 UTC
Alien technology
?
2015-10-02 04:37:11 UTC
I do not know but If you see any red flags on the social medial report them to law enforcement for follow up.
?
2015-10-01 15:08:40 UTC
Outlaw handguns
?
2015-10-01 20:03:48 UTC
"That's just stupid"



Well, why is it that countries that HAVE banned guns have an extremely lower rate of shootings compared to the USA?
2015-10-03 12:31:17 UTC
Get more tighter security on college campuses.
2015-10-01 19:30:10 UTC
Security Gun Towers like cellular towers!
maxwell
2015-10-02 12:07:28 UTC
It would seem without school buildings there would be no place for these nutjobs to shoot children , you, know
?
2015-10-02 18:34:26 UTC
Get rid of muslim religions in your state. this is where all shooting stem from in America. Mike
Stefan
2015-10-02 10:46:18 UTC
The only answer, whether you want to hear it or not, is to completely ban the private ownership of guns. Duh. Some European countries have banned guns and they have extremely few gun deaths every year. In the US, we have tens of thousands. Sadly, rednecks in this country care more about their right to shoot guns than human lives. Crazy stuff.
?
2015-10-01 13:41:00 UTC
Stop letting your people buy guns and instead get them to buy snickers, they're not themselves when they're hungry.
thomas
2015-10-01 22:54:07 UTC
Stricter control
Martin the baby
2015-10-02 07:45:27 UTC
Take a look at other world countries, gain some inspiration.
KROSSIN303@Yahoo.com
2015-10-01 16:13:54 UTC
HOW LONG WILL THE PSYCHIATRIC EXPERTS BE unaccountable?. FIND ME A BRAIN DR./PSYCH/PHARMAPSY/WHO ACTUALLY HAS BEEN HELD ACCONTABLE AS OTHER DOCTORS WHO DO TRY THEIR. BEST TO CARE FOR ALL THEIR PATIENTS! WHY DO SO MANY THESE YOUNG AMERICAN MEN LACK ANY SENSE OF REALITY!! c
Marsha
2015-10-01 21:37:21 UTC
NRA owns Congress so no sane gun control measures have a chance of passing.
ausblue
2015-10-01 23:57:08 UTC
make the media shut up........casue theres all these idiot copy cats that just hope to get a minute of fame on TV even if they are shot dead they think in their twisted brain they will be famous ..



example ...australia had NEVER HEARD or road rage til it was in the media about americas road rage ............ soon after australia got road rage ..stupid people copy stuff
?
2015-10-01 20:44:04 UTC
Truth is you can't. You never know when a person is just gonna lose control
?
2015-10-01 20:25:19 UTC
Have more programs to help people who have mental illness or have anger issues from being bullied
?
2015-10-02 01:27:23 UTC
Yes.
?
2015-10-01 18:32:56 UTC
Better security
?
2015-10-02 11:27:19 UTC
You remove the opportunity by getting rid of "gun free Zones" And encourage CONCEALED Carry--for those with permits.--Keep potential perps GUESSING. They will only act if they are sure they are safe.
Thomas
2015-10-02 04:04:42 UTC
issuing out guns to responsible and making it more hard to people to easily get guns

that is they must have all legal requirement needed to get the gun and must have strong reasons for aquiring the gun
2015-10-01 13:48:26 UTC
The shooter must be a white guy. Otherwise, this thread would be FLOODED with racist comments.
Warm
2015-10-01 21:31:36 UTC
Eerr GUN CONTROL It worked for Australia. Obsession with gun ownership, and carrying them is so strong in the USA, you will never do it. - Just keep burying them.
vusumuzi
2015-10-03 09:12:46 UTC
give every one in college a gun problem solved
?
2015-10-02 00:23:24 UTC
Ban guns from these useless redneckw.
?
2015-10-01 15:23:15 UTC
The government should increase public security.
Kimani
2015-10-01 17:03:20 UTC
we have to enact better gun policies but the gun pac groups and lobbyists will not let laws to be put forward
2015-10-03 17:39:29 UTC
no way white people will always find ways too shoot out the skool
2015-10-01 22:14:00 UTC
Expand the concealed carry laws.
?
2015-10-01 20:08:44 UTC
Reverse the spiritual degradation of our nation.
Huh?
2015-10-01 12:34:29 UTC
OK then, ban ammunition sales.
2015-10-02 12:40:16 UTC
Ban all guns.
?
2015-10-03 06:52:28 UTC
Be up security
2015-10-01 16:21:09 UTC
embrace young white males?
fragglestickcar
2015-10-01 15:39:46 UTC
Only crimminals should have the guns
SCE2AUX2
2015-10-01 11:58:52 UTC
Ban gun free zones.
Art G
2015-10-01 15:39:45 UTC
TIGHTER BACKGROUND CHECKS BEFORE GUNS ARE SOLD TO COOKS AND NUTS WILL HELP !
?
2015-10-02 07:53:10 UTC
educate
2015-10-01 20:37:43 UTC
outlaw islam
Amber
2015-10-04 07:03:13 UTC
Why would you write about it on yahoo?
Austin
2015-10-02 11:09:46 UTC
Stricter gun laws
2015-10-01 19:00:57 UTC
seek and find help for the mentally ill.
?
2015-10-02 12:57:05 UTC
hhh
Pamela Johnson
2015-10-01 12:02:37 UTC
Give everyone a gun.
?
2015-10-02 10:22:16 UTC
baseball bats
Slade Cutter Whips Quiet Riot
2015-10-05 15:37:22 UTC
Dr.Huxtabul...........more mental institutions.
Kevin
2015-10-01 17:32:25 UTC
the right to bear arms.
Nathan
2015-10-02 06:32:03 UTC
help people more if they can
?
2015-10-01 19:40:40 UTC
U cant
?
2015-10-01 18:43:55 UTC
KEEEEEEEEEEEEWl
?
2015-10-02 11:17:50 UTC
Arm the Security! DUH....


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