Question:
Trump told the American People he NEVER considered firing Mueller. Reports say he did.According to Ken Starr Is THAT grounds for impeachment?
2018-01-29 13:23:53 UTC
"If the reports are correct that President Trump sought to have Mueller fired, then his public denial would be false," Ken Starr said.

"So would that be grounds for impeachment?"

"I take lying to the American people very, very seriously," Starr responded.

"President Clinton cited his public denial of having sexual relations with Monica Lewinsky as the basis for one of the 11 grounds for impeachment."
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-special-counsel-fired-reason-independent-prosecutor/story?id=52664965
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"8 times since June the White House denied Trump was considering firing Mueller"
https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/25/politics/robert-mueller-donald-trump/index.html
22 answers:
2018-01-31 13:21:39 UTC
yup
Athena
2018-01-29 21:00:47 UTC
Hardly.

Your boss considered firing you dozen time.

Is that criminal?



Boy, you people are really reaching.

Sitting all day at the coffee shop with all that extra money the Trump Tax break gave you must be weighing heavily on your minds.



Funny how you did not care about any of this when Holder was AG. He was charged with Contempt of Congress.
?
2018-01-29 15:09:58 UTC
People seem to miss the point. The topic is about detail, not him talking about it. This is just like the WORD "shithole". Using that word is not what that topic is about. It's weird people do this. I think it's a way of dodging the actual topic... or just plain stupidity.
Murzy
2018-01-29 14:58:11 UTC
if Trump could be impeached for every lie he told, he would be gone a long time ago. lie under oath is another story
kathy_is_a_nurse
2018-01-29 13:57:07 UTC
I can't imagine Trump didn't contemplate firing Mueller, especially knowing his background. But there is a big difference about having it cross your mind and actually doing it. So, no, that would not be grounds for impeachment.
2018-01-29 13:48:29 UTC
Well, he didnt get fired.
2018-01-29 13:34:27 UTC
But Trump didn't fire Mueller. You think it's an impeachable offense that a President 'wants' to do something, but didn't?
2018-01-29 13:33:42 UTC
If lying to the public was grounds for impeachment, all presidents could have been impeached.

Lying under oath is an impeachable offense.

"What Are the Consequences of Lying to the FBI?"

"While you might have the right to remain silent, you certainly don't have a right to lie to the police. State laws can vary when it comes to false statements, but lying during federal investigation is a felony carrying a potential five year prison sentence.



And that's just your standard, run-of-the-mill federal obstruction of justice charge. What about misleading the FBI regarding your alleged contact with the Russian ambassador?"

http://blogs.findlaw.com/blotter/2017/02/what-are-the-consequences-of-lying-to-the-fbi.html

Dt is so dishonest, get him on the hot seat and let him take him self down.
dasuberding
2018-01-29 13:28:03 UTC
Going to be very hard to prove who is lying and who isn't...but I'm sure you libs see a silver lining everywhere now. You have very few crumbs of hope to rely on now.
2018-01-29 13:27:36 UTC
Your buddy Ken. Do you put on Monica's blue dress for him before you go down?
?
2018-01-30 08:47:21 UTC
they are playing us like dummies.
?
2018-01-30 01:29:41 UTC
mueller should be imprisoned
2018-01-29 17:34:13 UTC
President Obama told the American People "Your taxes won't go up One Dime. None Of Them"

and he told the American People "We will start by lowering the Average premium by 2500 dollars per year.



And John Boehner took Impeachment off the table.



Somehow, that doesn't seem fair to me/. That you guys have been saying "impeach 45" even before he was sworn in.
Bob
2018-01-29 14:17:17 UTC
Ken Starr did NOT say that. He has to be UNDER OATH.. the mere discussing of firing Mueller is not illegal, it is not obstruction, firing Mueller is not legal grounds for impeachment, indictment.. He can be FIRED for any reason. The firing of him does not stop the investigation. This is more FAKE news hype
2018-01-29 14:02:43 UTC
If Trump lying to the American people were an offense he can get impeached for, Trump would need to get impeached about 2000 times. Legally it only counts if you lie under oath. You still can lie on twitter or in interviews or state of the union addresses.



However instead of impeaching Trump the American people can refuse to enable him in the voting booth starting with the midterm election. And there is a good chance they will.
?
2018-01-29 13:42:14 UTC
Ken Starr sounds like he's desperate to get back in the "Monica" spotlight again.



Trump has told 2,000 lies in the last year, according to fact checking sources, but being a moronic politician is not a crime.



the lies have to be under oath, during an investigation or trial.



If we arrested every politician that lied, we'd need a way bigger boat.
?
2018-01-29 13:41:28 UTC
He said she said, pretty much how everything seems to work now. Unsubstantiated accusations from unnamed sources become facts. Has been an issue for the last decade. It would be so much better if we kept our debates about actual actions. Seems to me, there are enough negative actions by Trump to keep the anger going.
busterwasmycat
2018-01-29 13:35:44 UTC
Impeachment is a funny thing in that it isn't a judicial act so much as a political one. The phrase "high crimes and misdemeanors" is intended to cover the gray area, the area of malfeasance and nonfeasance that may or may not be criminal but is still wrong and an abuse of power. I don't think that the simple fact of repeated lying in public on a substantive issue is sufficient, of itself, for impeachment. But it could definitely be part of a set of "wrongful acts" that would justify impeachment.



I personally think that refusal to implement the Russians Sanctions act is, of itself, sufficient grounds for impeachment. The Executive Branch and the Chief Executive (the President) have one primary job, and that is to "Faithfully Execute" the laws of the United States of America. If you want, you can use this refusal to do his job as part of the collusion argument, but it does not actually matter WHY, except that the political willpower to impeach would be a lot greater, the more charges there are.
Pfft.
2018-01-29 13:30:31 UTC
Stop
2018-01-29 13:30:20 UTC
OK, get rid of every politician that has lied to the US public. Clear out the entire Senate, the entire House and pretty much every politician alive.



As far as this lie, people were FAR more impacted by the lie "You like your doctor, you can keep your doctor."
Slickterp
2018-01-29 13:25:58 UTC
That lie is probably not grounds for impeachment.
Summertime
2018-01-29 13:25:30 UTC
Never thought I would say this. But Ken told the gospel truth.


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