Don't start screaming "anti-semite"..Can you understand? that I don't really understand ???

Question

I'm tired of hearing about the Holocaust.
I know terrible things happened but it wasn't just to Jews. I would be more understanding if they were to include other than "6,000,000 Jews" in their quest for sympathy. I am familiar with their now rhetorical "never again,"but there are others who have been oppressed, killed, gassed, murdered, hanged, maimed, lynched, starved, burned grotesquely, worked to death, and otherwise treated horribly as well.
I know the United States and Israel are joined at the hip. I also know that the United States funds Israel to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars every year, not to mention a huge amount of military aid.

But. What is it about Isreal and Jewish people that holds the United States at their every beck and call?
Are we as strong as we want others to believe? or are we really afraid of Israel?

[sorry. Israel can say anything it wants. But I am wary of them, or perhaps I should say I just don't trust them.]

Answer 1

I cannot agree with you more. As far as the holocaust, why is there not equal attention to the holocaust in the United States against the Native Americans. Likewise, why do we suck up to the Cuban community in Miami? What about the actions they are taking against the Palestinians is different from what was done in Germany?



You ask why? They give us a stronghold in the Middle East. They hold a lot of monetary interests within the U.S. As a nation, we are also afraid of them because they are always a wild card and could turn on us at any time. We had a very strong hand in their establishment in the 1950s and we think that is one we can hold onto (unlike establishing Castro in Cuba, Saddam Hussein in Iraq, not to mention the horrible influence we have had in Central and South America)



It sucks. It's wrong.

Answer 2

I'm supportive of moderate Israelians who wish to see a normalized relations with Iran and the rest of the Middle East. The US-directed policy with Israel in the last twenty years has been nothing short of an attempt to extend Israelian ethnocentric policies of expropriating the land from the Palestian Arabs. Israel has a right to be recognized as state but compensation must be paid to those families. I support Israel and I do think some moderation must take place in order to mediate this conflict before it spills over and opens more floodgates of problems in the MidEast.

Answer 3

We have an historical relationship with Israel much like the one with have with Canada and England. Perhaps not as long standing, but at least as strong. As far 'giving' Israel funds, every dime 'given' is spent in the USA. This money is a form of subsidy by proxy to our defense industries. As far as beck and call is concerned Israel supplies the US with excellent intel about our mutual enemies and perfect or not, Israel is a democracy and at least publicly the US is supposed democracies. (When it isn't supporting various thugocracies.) Yes, a lot of other people were killed during WW2 by the Nazis, but the Jews were particular target. If you look up the Nazi Einsatzgruppen you'll see what I mean.

Answer 4

I think what your trying to assert is completely unfounded and by the way you are totally making a false analogy right here. I.E., your argument is backed by a logically fallacy. You comparing the holocaust to current struggles that jewish people are facing in israel is completely a very naive and stupid connection....I wouldn't scream "anti semite" at you but I do think that your argument is ridiculous... Your line: "I know terrible things happened but it wasn't just to Jews" no S buddy...we all know the nazis killed more than the jews--gays, gyspies, etc...so what your saying to not news to anyone..and yes there have been genocides that occured after ww2--case and point Rwanda--however, you cliaming that the united states is at the footsteps of the jewish community is alittle sensational there....We provide money to alot of countries and those that harbor terroist--for example saudi arbia..so should I say that the United States caters to all saudis?????? No...

Answer 5

1) More than 1/3 of all the Jews in the world were murdered by the Nazis. Name another group that suffered a comparable fate.

2) The US & Israel are not joined at the hip. We also provide massive aid to Egypt & they are not exactly friendly towards us. Read editorials from their (government controlled) press or sermons from their (government appointed) clerics etc.

3) Israel DID offer military aid in both gulf wars, we turned it down because we didn't want the Arabs to get angry. Israel IS providing us with intel that we could not get anywhere else.



Nobody told you to trust Israel, but that's OK, I don't trust anti Semites.

Answer 6

Besides being a restitution for the Holocaust, if that is the point you are making, Israel is the case study for democracy in the middle east. If we are to believe that a non-Islamist democratic naton can thrive in the area, we need Israel to work.



Just a thought. By the way, the killing of Jews didn't begin or end with the Holocaust. It is the systematic attempt to exterminate an entire category of people that many of us still find so horrifying. Factor in that the German people were complicit through complacency and you have a true nightmare and a precedent for te evil that humanity can find within itself.

Answer 7

I think you have a point here, the first gulf war, the second gulf war...

and when we leave them on their own they suck, remember last year when they tried to invade Lebanon again???

the intifada in the occupied territories is going on and on since 2001 and each time they need help the American tax dollar is there for them...

All what they are good at is inflaming situations and we run to save them... politically, militarily and financially (tax-dollars)

I think it is time to start asking questions...



Personally I do not think that we are supporting Democracy, because we also support thugs in the middle east like the Saudis, Jordanians and husni Mubarak in Egypt, all the sheiks in the gulf... we saved the Kuwaitis when Saddam invaded them and they just gave the women right to vote only last year

If we support democracy we we did not agree on the result of elections in Lebanon and the Palestinian Authority, we kept pushing for elections, thinking that going to vote is the only step to achieve democracy, and when they voted as we asked them to do... look at the results, and we refused the democracy that we pushed for, and punished all the Palestinians and the majority of the Lebanese... by cutting funds...

Answer 8

You understand. Some Zionists feel that Israel is "above the law" and if you call them on atrocities, they call you out as "anti semite". They abuse the term because Palestinians are semite as well. The good Jews of Israel are sick of it and protesting. Support them.



Think about it, as a "welfare state" the Israeli government is committing genocide against Palestinians. So "Jews" are the real anti-semites. Israel is a young baby government of 50 years that has had way to much leeway to bomb its neighbors. It's a murdering nation and should be sanctioned.



Complain to your congressmen. IIsrael has intimidated the US government for years in order to get $100 billion in funds and weapons annually, but now your leaders need to hear that you are aware and that you are smarter than they think.

Answer 9

You say you dint understand the relationship between the US and Israel. That's probably because you are lazy and refuse to turn off the CNN or MSNBC long enough to go to the Library and read for yourself the history of our relationship with Israel. If you are serious about wanting to "understand" then do so.......

Answer 10

" A man is considered an anti-Semite if he calls a Jew a Jew." Hillaire Belloc quoted in Culture Wars (Sept. 2000)



Mexican Holocaust started in the 80's = Millions disappeared = migrating to the USA

Answer 11

asserting "ballot" saves ya from getting suggested for chattin' because of the fact of it falls in the community policies. yet i've got observed that utilising "Survey" gets greater intrigue. previous avatar, new avatar ... they the two artwork.

Answer 12

Wow. Okay I do not think my answer will satisfy you. Your feelings are to well buried in your soul!

Answer 13

Yawn.

Answer 14

What's the question. You're just ranting. Go to a local mosque and spew forth.

Answer 15

Ditto. What's your question?