Question:
What kind of world are we living in when a nominee for the Nobel Peace Prize is incarcerated in a US prison?
anonymous
2012-02-27 19:26:32 UTC
Bradley Manning has been nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize this year.

Manning has been incarcerated since his arrest in 2010 for leaking a video showing the killing of civilians, including two Reuters journalists, by a US Apache helicopter crew in Iraq. He is also charged with sharing the documents known as the Afghan War Diary, the Iraq War Logs, and embarrassing US diplomatic cables, with the anti-secrecy website WikiLeaks. The video and documents have illuminated such issues as the true number and cause of civilian casualties in Iraq, human rights abuses by U.S.-funded contractors and foreign militaries, and the role that spying and bribes play in international diplomacy.

Although not yet tried, he has been held under solitary confinement, denied sunlight, and occassionally, clothes. United Nations chief torture investigator Juan Mendez has gone on record saying he is “frustrated by the prevarication of the US government with regard to my attempts to visit Mr. Manning.” All of this has been called harsh and punitive by Amnesty International, and Congressman Dennis Kucinich has called it " more consistent with Kafka then the US Constitution.”

How can so-called patriots still believe that by supporting this government, they're fighting for the principles on which America was founded?
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anonymous
2012-02-27 19:31:31 UTC
The US imprisons more humans than any nation in history.



Prisoners are made corporate slaves in US prison industrial complex, killing free markets, disemploying US working class, and injecting US richclass owned and produced industrial products at unfair competitive price levels into world markets (as no labor costs). And to think that on top, all prison industrial operational costs are paid for by YOU, US working class (not to mention you pay for the thieving judge, court, and prosecutorial and “defense” lawyer team costs) -- just imagine the cost-free US richclass slave profits.



(To wit, developing sexual abnormalities and other human often-psychological abuses within such a disgusting US richclass operated slave system are simply symptoms of a mammoth human slavery crime.)



So -- why does the US have 23.4% of the world’s prison population -- when they have only 4.5% of the world’s population? That’s worse than scary. What’s the message in this? It’s this: US richclass oppression causes crime -- purposefully.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarceration_in_the_United_States



“The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world at 754 persons in prison or jail per 100,000 (as of 2008)… The United States has 4.52% of the world's population and 23.4% of the world's prison population.”



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population



And on Y!A, one after another someone introduces a dilemma and then asks, “Should we throw them in prison?” Your US richclass slavers have a bunch of very well-trained masochistic publics who cannot grasp yet envision any of ten thousand effective solutions other than abuse. Why am I the only one seeing through this US richclass-abuse scam aimed at prison slavery profits?



US richclass oppression of under-classes has your publics blaming and targeting the poor for crime (very misdirected attention) -- while US richclass oppression causes the crime, and while US richclass prison industrial complex take down slave-profits galore (so much for “free markets”). It's an easy gig.



SLAVERY AND FREE MARKETS CANNOT COEXIST.



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This article starts out slowly, but ends with a bang. You can verify US richclass slave industry therein:



http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1887.html



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“Fascism” is oppressive, exploitative power forcibly imposed over a severely weakened public by a banded richclass regime -- and in the form of plethora written and repressive laws, rules, dictates, rigged economies, lies, cons, bureaucracies, delays, controls, denials, fees, expenses, taxes, duties, levies, tariffs, assessments, tolls, tributes, attached and hidden costs, conscriptions, permits, licensings, penalties, financial traps, promissory obligations, interests, indemnities, fines, liens, appraisals, suspensions, red flags, concomitants, garnishments, appropriations, seizures, suits, censorships, evaluations, redundancies, layoffs, terminations, propagandas, belittlements, humiliations, neglects, impediments, legaleses, curtailments, exclusions, expellings, inspections, interrogations, investigations, body searches, familial interferences and deprivations, property searches, accusations, threats, condemnations, kidnappings, detainments, detentions, charges, bounties, ostracizations, punishments, probations, raids, physical restrainments, beatings, tortures, rights violations, complicities, liberticides, coerced betrayals, informants, conspiracies, secret files, ethnocides, servitudes, imprisonments, enslavements, and etc. and etc.; with sparse, minimal, laughable, token positive reinforcements, and most of very few “positive” reinforcements in the form of tricks, coercions, ultimatums, collusions, bribes, masochisms, and blackmails; in conjunction with a repressive wage system and broadened wage inequity (such as that system baldly exhibited under US richclass in the USA).
Thomas
2012-02-27 20:02:42 UTC
The kind of world where they give a Nobel Peace Prize to a man that did nothing to deserve it and later became a mass murderer. Manning deserves the Nobel Peace Prize and a release from incarceration.
webferret74
2012-02-27 21:53:22 UTC
The same world were an actual terrorist has actually won the Nobel Peace Prize previously. Honestly this award has very little basis for actual contributions to peace as it can be awarded to someone in the hopes that they may contribute to peace in the future. (Obama)



Note ANY of the folowing can nominate someone for the Nobel Prize:

Members of national assemblies and governments and members of the Inter-Parliamentary Union,

Members of the Permanent Court of Arbitration and the International Court of Justice at the Hague,

Members of Institut de Droit International,

University professors of history, social sciences, philosophy, law and theology, university presidents and directors of peace research and international affairs institutes,

Former recipients, including board members of organizations that have previously won the prize,

Present and past members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee, and

Former permanent advisers to the Norwegian Nobel Institute.



Did you notice the University professors in the list... getting nominated for this means very little.



And your understanding of the Bradley Manning case leaves much to be desired. First off he was in solitary mainly for his own safety (btw he is allowed time to interact with other prisoners at Levinworth), the incident where he was denied clothing was because he threatened to kill himself with his clothes, he was NOT denied sunlight (that accusation was disproven so many times it is not funny), and a military person under court martial (and note he has already had the pre trial) for divulging classified information to a foreign country would not be allowed foreign visitors in ANY country.



Manning was a low ranking member of the Army with clearance to help protect his unit, who was getting ready to be dishonorably discharged from the military (demoted several times for issues including attacking a female soldier.) when they found out he had been leaking information to a foreign company. (He was turned in by a hacker he had been bragging too about this who asked people in the hacking community about it and everyone told him to turn Manning in... as even they felt what he was doing was wrong.)



His reasons (per early interviews) were because he felt he was not getting the respect he felt he deserved from those above him in the chain of command and to impress his boyfriends college friends. (Btw it was well known in his unit that he was gay/had gender identity disorder, but the funny thing is that no one really cared about that.) In addition, he did not just release records that showed wrongdoing on the part of the government itself... the first thing he released (the apache footage you were talking about) was on an incident that had been known about for years, had been investigated, and even the footage he released (which was editted and had a large section removed from the middle of it) showed that the reporters (not wearing any identifying clothing/insignia) were with insurgents with RPG's and at least one assault rifle, that were the Apache's targets per their orders.



He did not even review the later files he was releasing, he just mass dumped over 500,000 classified documents. (That he used an automated program to gather) Which included such things as most vulnerable target lists for the U.S. infastructure, lists of villages/informants that helped the U.N. and Nato forces, methods people had used to escape countries like Iran (including a step by step route which would put the people who helped them in danger), and things of this nature... which have been published in the press since. (The press cited their source as Wikileaks)



The worst part is that there are channels he could whistleblow through if he had found actual criminal actions/or even questionable onesin the records. Due to the actions of Daniel Ellsberg back during the Vietnam war, there are now contact numbers (Outside the chain of command, in some cases another section of the government entirely, such as Congress) that people with access to classified data are given. And they are required to report anything that is questionable. Manning did NOT do this... instead within a month of his assignment overseas, he started leaking files.
anonymous
2012-02-27 19:30:36 UTC
They won't give it to Manning.



Not when the world is controlled by the West.



Now, if Manning was in a Chinese prision, you could guarrantee it!
anonymous
2012-02-27 19:33:02 UTC
I don't know enough about the Nobel process to know if just being nominated has any significance.


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