Question:
Global Warming?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Global Warming?
23 answers:
2007-05-06 15:57:47 UTC
i agree, search 'the great global warming swindle' on youtube or watch it somewhere else
Sav
2007-05-03 15:40:16 UTC
It is and unfortunately it's hurting the cause to combat it. These extremist need to realize they are hurting the case for global warming more than helping it by their doomsday, worst case scenario rhetoric.
2007-05-03 15:37:06 UTC
I agree
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2016-12-10 23:35:25 UTC
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rmagedon
2007-05-07 07:57:09 UTC
The globe warms and it cools, it is normal, the sun is the primary cause, all pretty simple stuff.



The environmental movement however is communist and the end goal is the destruction of the capitalist system in the world starting with the big dog, AMerica.



Maurice Strong primary designer of the Earth Summit asked, "Isn't the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn't it our responsibility to bring that about?" . Futurist Barr, Commoner writes that "nothing less than a change in the political and social system, including revision of the Constitution, is necessary to save the country from destroying the natural environment." He adds, "capitalism is the earth's number one enemy." Taking Commoner one step further, Judi Bari of Earth First! says, "I think if we don't overthrow capitalism, we don't have a chance of saving the world ecologically. "I think it is possible to have an ecologically sound society under socialism. I don't think it is possible under capitalism."



from http://www.sovereignty.net/p/ngo/ron.html





"I have three important premises to provide a general context for my perspective. First, nature bats last. The second premise is that the house is on fire. Finally, in times of crisis our plans [should] be commensurate with the scale of the problems. We need something akin to another Marshal Plan-starting with restructuring the rulemaking processes for the global economy-to provide a roadmap to help reverse dangerous trends and get us to a better world."



The first two premises are bogeymen we must fear if we are to answer his later call to action.



* Nature bats last. Catchphrase meaning nature will destroy you if you violate her rules, and capitalism violates nature's rules. We're doomed.



* The house is on fire. Capitalism is the fire, earth is the house, capitalism is destroying everything, air, water, soil, all life on earth. We're doomed.



That's sufficient reason to justify destroying capitalism.



In their own words, they are seeking the destruction and control of our country, our economy and our freedoms.
gene_frequency
2007-05-07 03:36:52 UTC
Good job IDing a possible hoax at the people's expense. Could it be that global warming and cooling is part of a natural cycle?
firetach2000
2007-05-03 16:42:55 UTC
Why is Al Tree hugger Gore even pushing this issue. There is only a few countries that care about there nature and trying to protected it. There is over 300 countries in the world. 1-5 countries is not gonna make a difference. Well whatever the gods have in store for us. I guess we will find out.
2007-05-03 15:41:12 UTC
well... it really depends...



now, I'm no scientist... and don't pretend to be... but I do know that sometimes things are cheaper to stop before they happen than after they happen... an ounce of prevention...



now there are several different scientific views on the severity of global warming and why it's happeneing... so it's kind of hard to tell exactly what's going on for sure...



I'm just saying... if Africa becomes uninhabitable... malaria may not be the thing they are really worried about there...
infobrokernate
2007-05-03 15:37:31 UTC
Great point.



Wikipedia says the experts predicted "global cooling" twenty years ago. (wikipedia- global cooling)
frogyspond
2007-05-03 15:42:20 UTC
who is to say we should not do both of the things you talk about. If we do not put a stop to this uncontrolled pollution there will not be a world to live on, and that is the thing everyone forgets about that says we spend too much time on the subject of global warming. WE DO NOT SPEND ENOUGH TIME ON THIS SUBJECT. If we do nothing then I might be okay but I know my kids will be in serous trouble.
booboo
2007-05-03 15:52:22 UTC
I don't know maybe it's when it does happen, and it is happening

the result is an uninhabitable planet so all those people with malaria, and anybody else for that matter will be dead, that's

what uninhabitable means, and in case you know something I

don't we can't exactly pack up and move, unless we developed a starship Enterprise while nobody was looking. Also global warming isn't something that can be turned off like a light, you're talking many decades before the environment can cleanse itself, and that's if all pollution of the planet stops,

that means, parking all the cars, shutting down all the power plants, going back to plowing fields with horses and oxen, are

we ready to do that? not likely, so sure lets wait another

hundred years it's really not going to make that much of a difference anyway. Worrying about how much it costs is going to seem like an absurd and far away thought way sooner than most people care to even contemplate.
2007-05-03 15:41:20 UTC
Global warming will cause an expansion in the habitat of mosquitoes and increase the malaria problem.

Yo wingshoo the Canadian nothing you say gives proof that there isnt Global warming caused by the human population. You just say "no there isnt! no there isnt such a thing! You wanna know why? because I know there isnt such a thing!" There are almost 7 billion people on this planet and a whole lot of them have cars. Why don't you turn on your car, get a lawn chair, and seat it a foot away from your muffler. I bet youd have a great time. Now imagine that thick stink comng out of 100 million cars and tell me there isnt something wrong. Then imagine twice that pollution coming from our houses and power plants and you will get an idea that falls just short of what we are really emitting. You can take a trip up to the artic and see where the ice caps have melted after millions of years and this time just happens to coincide with our century of Industry and technology. Its happening and we have to take action before its a problem beyond our imagination.
bs b
2007-05-03 15:39:57 UTC
yeah it is way out of hand. I know and realize it is happening and that we should start taking better care, but I have to say when do you hear Gore talk about anything else at all. He has nothing but that, and that alone. I am a democrat even and he drives me nuts most the time. We get it already, thanks. Just a tid bit since this is my area of expertise. Did you know in the year 2010 that the exhaust coming out of Semi trucks will be cleaner than the air it is blowing into? You think wow that is great, you also don't know that these emission laws are going to cut the fuel mileage from an industry average of about 5.8 or so to around 4.7. At what cost do we raise the red flag?
wyldfyr
2007-05-03 15:43:41 UTC
First of all it's not in a hundred years. Many effects of global warming are happening now. The costs of doing nothing far outweigh the the costs of doing something now. Haven't you heard the saying about an ounce of prevention? There are actually opportunities for innovative people, who can come up with cleaner alternatives. The future belongs to those visionaries. If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
2007-05-03 15:38:16 UTC
Because Al Gore has DVDs to sell. But I agree.



Edit: The poster above me states 90% of the scientists. Yes 90% of the worlds leading scientists believe in natural warming of the globe, but only 17% believe in Al Gores "global warming."
Jack
2007-05-03 15:41:02 UTC
Lowering carbon emissions may not even fix the problem. Recent research shows that the cause of global warming is likely due the Sun, and has little to do with pollution.
chrys
2007-05-03 15:42:11 UTC
very good point!!!

think though that actually both goals could be reached only if they did not spend so much money on generating more and more wars around the world, how many african countries would have benefited from the billions that are being spent in wars?
Conan
2007-05-03 15:41:19 UTC
Global Warming?

I'm cold as an ice Cube.
Arbgre555
2007-05-03 15:38:04 UTC
Ummm, how about because if global warming is true and as bad as 90% of scientists believe, it means billions of dead, not millions. Is that a good enough reason?
jeb black
2007-05-03 15:37:54 UTC
The UN is moving to take control. You heard it here first..maybe.
tom4bucs
2007-05-03 15:38:25 UTC
u bet BUT



the ice is Melting on Mars! due to - OH NO -

GW on MARS~!!!!!!!



Let's send Al on a fact finding mission, personally!
heada_bone
2007-05-03 15:38:31 UTC
climate change is real, but it's not man-made. the sun is getting hotter, and the solar flairs are getting closer to earth. the gloom and doomers fail to tell you that the temperature on both the moon and mars is getting warmer.
2007-05-03 15:37:58 UTC
Global Warming, as we think we know it, doesn't exist. And I am not the only one trying to make people open up their eyes and see the truth. But few listen, despite the fact that I was the first Canadian Ph.D. in Climatology and I have an extensive background in climatology, especially the reconstruction of past climates and the impact of climate change on human history and the human condition.“Few listen, even though I have a Ph.D, (Doctor of Science) from the University of London, England and was a climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg.” . For some reason (actually for many), the World is not listening. Here is why.

What would happen if tomorrow we were told that, after all, the Earth is flat? It would probably be the most important piece of news in the media and would generate a lot of debate. So why is it that when scientists who have studied the Global Warming phenomenon for years say that humans are not the cause nobody listens? Why does no one acknowledge that the Emperor has no clothes on?

Believe it or not, Global Warming is not due to human contribution of Carbon Dioxide (CO2). This in fact is the greatest deception in the history of science. We are wasting time, energy and trillions of dollars while creating unnecessary fear and consternation over an issue with no scientific justification. For example, Environment Canada brags about spending $3.7 billion in the last five years dealing with climate change almost all on propaganda trying to defend an indefensible scientific position while at the same time closing weather stations and failing to meet legislated pollution targets.

No sensible person seeks conflict, especially with governments, but if we don't pursue the truth, we are lost as individuals and as a society. That is why I insist on saying that there is no evidence that we are, or could ever cause global climate change. And, recently, Yuri A. Izrael, Vice President of the United Nations sponsored Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) confirmed this statement. So how has the world come to believe that something is wrong?

Maybe for the same reason we believed, 30 years ago, that global cooling was the biggest threat: a matter of faith. "It is a cold fact: the Global Cooling presents humankind with the most important social, political, and adaptive challenge we have had to deal with for ten thousand years. Your stake in the decisions we make concerning it is of ultimate importance; the survival of ourselves, our children, our species," wrote Lowell Ponte in 1976.

I was as opposed to the threats of impending doom global cooling engendered as I am to the threats made about Global Warming. Let me stress I am not denying the phenomenon has occurred. The world has warmed since 1680, the nadir of a cool period called the Little Ice Age (LIA) that has generally continued to the present. These climate changes are well within natural variability and explained quite easily by changes in the sun. But there is nothing unusual going on.

Since I obtained my doctorate in climatology from the University of London, Queen Mary College, England my career has spanned two climate cycles. Temperatures declined from 1940 to 1980 and in the early 1970's global cooling became the consensus. This proves that consensus is not a scientific fact. By the 1990's temperatures appeared to have reversed and Global Warming became the consensus. It appears I'll witness another cycle before retiring, as the major mechanisms and the global temperature trends now indicate a cooling.

No doubt passive acceptance yields less stress, fewer personal attacks and makes career progress easier. What I have experienced in my personal life during the last years makes me understand why most people choose not to speak out; job security and fear of reprisals. Even in University, where free speech and challenge to prevailing wisdoms are supposedly encouraged, academics remain silent.

I once received a three page letter that my lawyer defined as libellous, from an academic colleague, saying I had no right to say what I was saying, especially in public lectures. Sadly, my experience is that universities are the most dogmatic and oppressive places in our society. This becomes progressively worse as they receive more and more funding from governments that demand a particular viewpoint.

In another instance, I was accused by Canadian environmentalist David Suzuki of being paid by oil companies. That is a lie. Apparently he thinks if the fossil fuel companies pay you have an agenda. So if Greenpeace, Sierra Club or governments pay there is no agenda and only truth and enlightenment?

Personal attacks are difficult and shouldn't occur in a debate in a civilized society. I can only consider them from what they imply. They usually indicate a person or group is losing the debate. In this case, they also indicate how political the entire Global Warming debate has become. Both underline the lack of or even contradictory nature of the evidence.

I am not alone in this journey against the prevalent myth. Several well-known names have also raised their voices. Michael Crichton, the scientist, writer and filmmaker is one of them. In his latest book, "State of Fear" he takes time to explain, often in surprising detail, the flawed science behind Global Warming and other imagined environmental crises.

Another cry in the wildenerness is Richard Lindzen's. He is an atmospheric physicist and a professor of meteorology at MIT, renowned for his research in dynamic meteorology - especially atmospheric waves. He is also a member of the National Academy of Sciences and has held positions at the University of Chicago, Harvard University and MIT. Linzen frequently speaks out against the notion that significant Global Warming is caused by humans. Yet nobody seems to listen.

I think it may be because most people don't understand the scientific method which Thomas Kuhn so skilfully and briefly set out in his book "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions." A scientist makes certain assumptions and then produces a theory which is only as valid as the assumptions. The theory of Global Warming assumes that CO2 is an atmospheric greenhouse gas and as it increases temperatures rise. It was then theorized that since humans were producing more CO2 than before, the temperature would inevitably rise. The theory was accepted before testing had started, and effectively became a law.

As Lindzen said many years ago: "the consensus was reached before the research had even begun." Now, any scientist who dares to question the prevailing wisdom is marginalized and called a sceptic, when in fact they are simply being good scientists. This has reached frightening levels with these scientists now being called climate change denier with all the holocaust connotations of that word. The normal scientific method is effectively being thwarted.

Meanwhile, politicians are being listened to, even though most of them have no knowledge or understanding of science, especially the science of climate and climate change. Hence, they are in no position to question a policy on climate change when it threatens the entire planet. Moreover, using fear and creating hysteria makes it very difficult to make calm rational decisions about issues needing attention.

Until you have challenged the prevailing wisdom you have no idea how nasty people can be. Until you have re-examined any issue in an attempt to find out all the information, you cannot know how much misinformation exists in the supposed age of information.

I was greatly influenced several years ago by Aaron Wildavsky's book "Yes, but is it true?" The author taught political science at a New York University and realized how science was being influenced by and apparently misused by politics. He gave his graduate students an assignment to pursue the science behind a policy generated by a highly publicised environmental concern. To his and their surprise they found there was little scientific evidence, consensus and justification for the policy. You only realize the extent to which Wildavsky's findings occur when you ask the question he posed. Wildavsky's students did it in the safety of academia and with the excuse that it was an assignment. I have learned it is a difficult question to ask in the real world, however I firmly believe it is the most important question to ask if we are to advance in the right direction.

Dr. Tim Ball, Chairman of the Natural Resources Stewardship Project (www.nrsp.com), is a Victoria-based environmental consultant and former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg. He can be reached at letters@canadafreepress.com


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