Question:
How many more shootings need to happen?
Rob
2012-08-07 10:45:16 UTC
pro-weapon people find any excuse in the book to own the closest thing to nuclear weapons possible. How many shooting will it take before they admit restrictions don't -stop- all gun violence, but they do -help- prevent it. As for the people who were shot, the idiot didn't even know they weren't muslim

http://www.examiner.com/article/wisconsin-shooting-offers-opportunity-amid-tragedy
Fifteen answers:
Mr. Blue
2012-08-07 10:52:50 UTC
The shooting at Fort Hood was worse, and the restrictions there didn't help prevent it. Quite the opposite.

Interestingly the shooter at Fort Hood was an Army psychiatrist and the Sikh Temple shooter was trained in Psychological Operations while in the military. I'm starting to think the US Military has a much different definition of sanity than most people do.
Gray Wanderer
2012-08-07 10:56:34 UTC
If restrictions help prevent gun violence, why was gun violence so much higher in the mid 1980's, when the restrictions were so much stricter? Or do you consider 15,000 to 20,000 more murders per year to be violence prevented?
2012-08-07 10:52:41 UTC
pro-weapon people find any excuse in the book to own the closest thing to nuclear weapons possible.



the above tells me you are so retarded that you need to log off the net and go to a rubber room for life.
Tish P
2012-08-07 10:48:47 UTC
How many shootings need to happen before we ban defenseless victim zones and start slapping people for saying stupid shtt like that in public? I couldn't say.





Gun restrictions DO NOT, in fact have any measurable positive effect. Ever. In many cases, draconian gun laws have actually caused increases in violent crime. Examples include LA, DC, Shitcago, and the entire nation of Australia.
ReasoningWithFacts
2012-08-07 10:55:05 UTC
Why weren`t you this concerned a month ago ?? Chicago enlists outside group to stem soaring murder rate.....By Mary Wisniewski | Reuters – Tue, Jun 26, 2012.. .



CHICAGO (Reuters) - Chicago has entered into an agreement with a crime-fighting group that seeks to interrupt violence before it escalates, the city said on Tuesday, as it battles to reduce a soaring murder rate.



Chicago, the third largest U.S. city, has agreed to pay $1 million to CeaseFire to focus on "highest risk" individuals, such as recent victims of violence and those with a history of violence, to stop them from committing crimes.



The agreement with the organization is in response to a murder rate 37 percent higher year-to-date from the same time period last year - at 250 murders compared to 182 in 2011. Chicago's murder rate has outpaced New York City, which has more than double the population.



"The amount of gang violence in our city is simply unacceptable," said Chicago Police First Deputy Superintendent Al Wysinger in a news conference. Wysinger said the agreement with CeaseFire is only "one of the tools we're putting in our tool box to help tamp down some of this violence."



An initiative of the Chicago Project for Violence Prevention, CeaseFire is a non-government organization that claims to take a public health approach to violence prevention.



It sees violence as a learned behavior that can be prevented through behavior change for highest risk individuals, changing community norms and other by means.



Tio Hardiman, director of CeaseFire Illinois, said CeaseFire tries to "get out in front of conflicts" before they escalate. In a recent neighborhood incident, a 10-year-old was beaten up by a 12-year-old, and the conflict between the two families grew to the point where cousins started showing up with guns.



CeaseFire representatives intervened and "nobody got shot," Hardiman said. "Everyone got to go home and relax."



Some Chicago police officers are skeptical of CeaseFire because it uses ex-felons to talk people out of violent acts, and a handful have been charged with crimes while working with the group.



Overall crime in Chicago is down by 11 percent from the same period last year. But officials say years of targeting by law enforcement has shattered Chicago's once-stable gang structure, and the jump in murders reflects a power struggle between the smaller gangs.



RISE IN NUMBER OF GANG FACTIONS



Pat Camden, spokesman for the Chicago police union, said police have over the years been "very successful" at putting gang leaders in jail, Camden said.



"As a result, you wind up with gangs that used to have some kind of structure that have broken down into little mini-gangs. Now you have them fighting for a one or two block territory," Camden said. "There's no concern for life -- it's just take what you can."



Camden said there are around 600 different factions in the city's neighborhoods.



Another possible contributing factor to the murder spike is unusually warm weather at the beginning of the year, when frigid temperatures usually keep violence down.



The CeaseFire agreement will put additional CeaseFire workers in two high-crime districts under the pilot program, which starts July 13. CeaseFire has received state and county funding in the past, but no money directly from the city.
Señor Gato
2012-08-07 10:56:58 UTC
I don't want to sound like I'm making light of a serious problem, but I think that Chris Rock stumbled on a solution. If we can't control the guns then control the ammo. Make each bullet cost $5000.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuX-nFmL0II
ThomasS
2012-08-07 10:48:07 UTC
Statistics show in areas where guns are restricted, the crime rates are higher. Law-abiding citizens are defenseless against those who will always be able to get an unregistered weapon.



If guns are outlawed - only outlaws will have guns. Guess who wins.
2012-08-07 10:50:31 UTC
Quit making hero's of the shooters. That is why they do it. No name, no picture
Greasy Tony
2012-08-07 10:50:03 UTC
The NRA controls the brains of these Right Wing wackos, so as long as they have the power, it doesn't matter how many more Americans die, as long as their lobbyist group keeps making those MILLIONS the gun manufacturers pump their way.
daddio
2012-08-07 10:50:02 UTC
statistics say you are wrong.



open/concealed/carry states have dramatically lower crime rates than say illinois....where only the criminals have guns.



seriously...let's screw the law ABIDER when they are not the problem. illogical.
Unseen
2012-08-07 10:59:04 UTC
I don't know maybe we should ask Obama and the OWS.
2012-08-07 10:48:15 UTC
Until it happens to them . Then Republicans will get it .

Because it seems as if Republicans do not have the brain connections to Empathize or relate to other people .
2012-08-07 10:46:56 UTC
Funny how liberals suddenly don't want to do anything about the underlying causes of rage. We only hear about that need when the shooter is a kneegrow.
Mattias Nilsson
2012-08-07 10:47:09 UTC
I wish you owned a gun. You'd shoot yourself with it by mistake.
2012-08-07 10:48:03 UTC
uh...12?


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