Question:
See, this is how I KNOW republicans are wrong most of the time.?
2010-11-27 08:21:24 UTC
I recently posted a question asking whether republicans should support the health care bill on the grounds that it supports states rights. I supported this argument by stating the provision of the bill that allows states to create their very own system.
Now, this has never been a possibility before.
This is the most pro state rights healthcare situation in American history.

The responses I got were mind numbingly stupid.
Some people actually said "the bill takes AWAY states rights , not gives them." - No, I explained why it's very pro states rights.
Someone else said "it takes away individual rights"- Again, no, being


It seems republicans simply deny any viewpoint different from their own and refuse to accept the possibility of reality not agreeing with their agenda, even if the entire world and every major scientific organization backs it,
Half of the republican arguments seem to be "ah, but what if they DONT do that?"- no real intelligent thinking, just a stupid comment with no basis in truth or reality.

Most people who vote republican are voting against their interests, but are, of course, too stupid to realize how.

the states with highest life expectancies and quality of life rankings are all liberal, (no, idiots, i dont have a source, do some RESEARCH and EDUCATE yourselves.)

which takes me to my last point. stop asking for a source every f-ing time you hear a different viewpoint, do some research and find it yourself. thats what separates an intelligent person from a stupid person- an intelligent person can learn for themselves, a stupid person needs to be spoonfed information
Fourteen answers:
Tommy
2010-11-27 08:24:47 UTC
Why to leftist Liberals always rant on indefinitely about some obscure point that don't make sense
?
2010-11-27 16:38:40 UTC
Any time you give more power to a government, state or federal it takes away from you rights, your choices and your wallet. Nuff said. For people who believe the government controlling every aspect of your life is in your best interest you wouldnt understand the arguments agaisnt it. The fact is the government state or otherwise CANT AFFORD IT. Medicare is being cut 30% on payments very soon. Do you really think thats in the best interest of the people it supposedly serves? It needs to be cut but the fact is, if you are using it you WONT get as a good a care as you would have on a private plan. Now im coming at this as a person who believes the government is too big AND as a healthcare professional. medicaid is even worse. When we bill medicaid we dont even recoup the costs of what the services rendered incur. We dont even break even.



Now you are telling me im stupid because I dont think ALL healthcare should be like that. I think you may need to reevaluate your thinking. I have an outstanding insurance plan paid for by my emplyer, its pretty much the ONLY perk I get aside form a good vacation time set up. With government healthcare coming into play Ill likely lose it because it will become to expensive. I will be forced to either pay a nasty penalty for not buying insurance on my own, or be out alot more money becaue of Obama and the democrats.
Reason Enforcer
2010-11-27 18:47:33 UTC
When the Federal Government mandates that all states must do things a certain way, even if it is against the will of the states, it's clearly not supporting state's rights. You're just wrong.



It has been possible before (see Romney care). It is not in my best interested to have my health insurance costs increase in order to become complaint (but they cover my gynecologist visits and necessary breast reconstructive surgery thanks Obama! I have an X and a Y chromosome).



I'm not voting against my best interest when I vote against the government stealing my freedom.



I again reiterate. The Government forcing the states to do things unconstitutionally doesn't support states rights.
Jeffrey N
2010-11-28 13:38:38 UTC
You're a total KNOB! Unlike yourself, I'll provide several links on the best idea on Health care which comes from Governor Rick Perry of Texas. A Republican! Note the emphasis on State Rights.



The third link provided is video because I doubt your reading skills (or lack of).
?
2010-11-27 16:29:30 UTC
Actually, you argument is kind of like asking us (I'm a democrat, by the way, but NOT a socialist, liberal, or democratic socialist) to accept that you are giving me a choice by saying I can give you my car or I can give it away to someone else, and see, you're giving me a choice!



What utter nonsense.



You want state rights? You give the states the right to opt OUT of the healthcare plan in ALL ways, not do it at all, not pay for it, not receive from it.



THEN you are protecting state rights.



Otherwise, you're just saying: Either accept the Federal plan or you MUST create your own that matches our criteria as the Federal government.



What hogwash, protecting state rights...
2010-11-27 16:48:01 UTC
I see



So when the Federal government forces a state to fund this Obama Care it gives the state rights and authority? I am so glad I figured that out, you are over whelming I submit to your ignorance.
Uncle Benito
2010-11-27 16:26:12 UTC
Do you even know what the term states rights means? No bill has to GIVE them. They simply exist, and will as long as the Tenth Amendment remains part of the Constitution.
uncle meat
2010-11-27 16:25:18 UTC
It comes down to the simple fact that most States cannot afford it & are already mired in deficit spending. It's a matter of not spending money that you don't have, which is what every individual & every organization that wants to survive fiscally needs to do.
jammersavage123
2010-11-27 16:24:51 UTC
So the miserable attempts at state health care by Tennessee and Massachusetts only happened because this bill passed? If I remember right, this happened WAY before this farce of a bill passed and both were complete and utter failures (proving yet again that socialism doesn't work, even on a small scale)
?
2010-11-27 16:24:30 UTC
So how does this justify or take away the fact that it still forces people to purchase something against their will? (hence making this whole paragraph a bunch of irrelevent blabbering that it is lol)
2010-11-27 16:26:00 UTC
If it conflicts with the Fox News talking points, it is obviously a lie perpetrated by our socialist rulers.
?
2010-11-27 16:23:26 UTC
Stupid people asking for sources. We should just take your word for it.
SugarBear
2010-11-27 16:26:56 UTC
There you go. All the argument and condemning must mean you are correct.
?
2010-11-27 16:24:01 UTC
Soetorocare is a disaster, and there is no prize for being the last person to figure this out.


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