Is Obama really so stupid/naive as to...?

Question

attempt to deal diplomatically with a country that denies the holocaust ever happened? See for yourself.

Iran's government spokesman on Tuesday branded the Holocaust a "big lie" created to place the Islamic republic's arch-foe Israel in the Middle East, the state IRNA news agency reported.
"The Holocaust is a concept coming from a big lie in order to settle a rootless regime in the heart of the Islamic world," Gholam Hossein Elham told a conference on Gaza in central Iran's religious city of Qom.

It was not the first time an Iranian official has questioned the massacre of Jews by Nazis in World War II.

Iran does not recognise Israel, and since his election in 2005 President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has attracted international condemnation by repeatedly predicting that the Jewish state is doomed to disappear.

In late 2005 Ahmadinejad branded the Holocaust a "myth." His comment was followed by a conference in Tehran in 2006 that brought together Holocaust deniers and revisionists.

A mass-circulation Iranian newspaper also staged a controversial cartoon competition on the subject.

In September last year a group of Iranian Islamist students unveiled a book mocking the Holocaust and filled with anti-Semitic stereotypes and revisionist arguments.

The United Nations designated January 27 as international Holocaust memorial day in 2005, marking the date Soviet troops liberated the largest Nazi death camp, Auschwitz-Birkenau, in Poland.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.dcc1dae7280236f3833645ed9fa891cb.5e1&show_article=1

Answer 1

It doesn't matter what Obama thinks at this point. He was elected on that platform. Whether the American people were carried on a media wave of disinformation and propaganda or not, he was duly elected. It was the theme that 'diplomacy' was not fully utilized to the extent that it should be - in part - that led him into office. Personally, I think it is naive and dangerous. Beyond my personal opinions (and the history I use to justify my positions on appeasement), we shall see now if the approach he is using will result in better foreign relations, as liberals have long contended they would. I wish him well in his endeavors, and I sincerely hope that it will do just that. I have my doubts, but only time will tell.

Answer 2

I was amazed at some of the other answers you have received thus far. It is hard to believe that anyone could think that the holocaust is no longer an issue just because it is 2009.



What happened yesterday per se is always a relating factor to what happens today and tomorrow....and especially in this case, has a direct relevence to the issues of today. Iran in particular and the Muslim world in general would like to see Israel (not only the state but the people) gone. This ongoing ideological (religious) war started more than two thousand years ago and it will continue until the end of time as we know it.

Answer 3

The holocaust deal is only part of the issue. Obama and the liberals have deluded themselves into believing that you can actually reason with these people. They don't understand that one of the main issues is the fact that as long as we are allied with Israel in any way shape or form, the Islamic extremists will still have the United States on their to-do list of countries to blow up today. And that's only one more part of the problem. They hate us and our lifestyles. They are intolerant of any other religion than Islam. It's punishable by death to preach Christianity in most of those countries. How can you reason with people like that. They seek the total destruction of israel and the West. Obama shouldn't be wasting his time trying to appease these idiots. In fact, we should probably stomp Iran into the sand before they have nuclear weapons, which isn't very far off.

Answer 4

Our relations with Iran, and most of the Middle East, have been under extreme pressure for the past 8 years with the Bush administration's policies. Obama is simply taking more steps before the whole "invade country/war is inevitable" option.



We are at least trying to put forth a diplomatic effort, which will help us with support if war does turn out to be inevitable. We lost support for the Iraq war, both abroad and at home, once people didn't think it was worth it anymore. Obama's steps means he's paid attention to the way Bush dealt with things, and is trying a different approach.



Not bad. Just different.

Answer 5

The answer to this very loaded question may in fact be "yes," but let's remind ourselves what a loaded question is.



"Loaded question, also known as complex question, presupposition, "trick question", or plurium interrogationum (Latin, "of many questions"), is an informal fallacy or logical fallacy.[1] It is committed when someone asks a question that presupposes something that has not been proven or accepted by all the people involved. This fallacy is often used rhetorically, so that the question limits direct replies to those that serve the questioner's agenda.[1] An example of this is the question "Are you still beating your wife?" Whether the respondent answers yes or no, he will admit to having a wife, and having beaten her at some time in the past. Thus, these facts are presupposed by the question, and in this case an entrapment, because it narrows the respondent to a single answer, and the fallacy of many questions has been committed.[1]"

Answer 6

It is always best to try to deal with people in a diplomatic way first. Then when that doesn't work, you move on to the next step. This is usually embargoes on a country. When that doesn't work, then the strong arms are used with the military being called in.



As president, you need to go through these steps or you have the citizen of your country asking why didn't you try to solve a problem diplomatically before sending in the military.

Answer 7

For those of us who remember our relatives who were in that war telling us of the horrible events that they witnessed, and those of us who remember seeing photos and hearing the survivors tell of the atrocities that they endured through pure hatred. To see their pain filled faces when they spoke about their sufferings, and the tremendous losses of their loved ones. You hurt for them, and you wonder why so many nations could allow such an event against a people to happen.



If evil can convince the world that the truth were lies, this act could be repeated world wide against Jews and Christians.

Answer 8

To address the question, yes and yes. But it isn't stupidity or naivete. His agenda is the same. He is a Muslim. They are Muslim. They hate the Jews, maybe he does, too. Maybe he doesn't care. We are in big trouble and nobody can see it.



To ZzZz: "Obama is bigger than historical events."



Did you really say that?? My God, WHAT THE F_CK IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU PEOPLE? Obama is bigger than the Holocaust, where 11 MILLION PEOPLE DIED for NO REASON? (6 million Jews, I know but it wasn't JUST Jews that were killed.)



Then you say "Why do you care so much about the Middle East?" Um, because they hate us? Because we are basically on the edge of World War III and have been for years? Did you really not know that? All it is going to take is one more thing and that is going to be it. You psychos are the reason why in 4 years, you will not even recognize your country and the rest of us have to suffer with you because you put your faith in a god in a three-piece suit.

Answer 9

Why out of the tens of millions of civilians killed in WW II , the Jews only want to remember the 6 million Jews ?



23 million Russians were killed in that war, along with most of the countries in Europe, in my book ,I do not care what the world thinks of the Zionist in Israel.



Their ruthless actions against an unarmed civilian population, destroyed anything done 60 years ago !

Answer 10

Are you so stupid/naive to believe that any diplomatic talks with Iran will deal with their denial of the holocaust? There are far greater issues to deal with than that.

Answer 11

"This question is very long. Break it down into smaller questions, one at a time?"



This is a prime example of the problem;



If its not in Sound bites or Quick simple bits, people dont want to take the time to educate themselves,

Take the time, read what he wrote, do the research and then respond.

Everything today is knee Jerk mostly because people are lazy.



Sorry this is off topic, but I saw it as very interesting.



I will research it and respond/

Answer 12

Obama is bigger than historical events. Denying other humans their right to believe what they want is the failure of the past administrations.



Why do you care so much about the middle east anyways? Bush and the rightwing nutters failed to publicly identify why 911 happened. That is a fact. It wasn't because of a group of angry men who decided by themselves. They were the product of US foreign policy that stomped on others. It seems you still want to stomp on the voices and beliefs of others. Open up your mind and stop denying that there are more people suffering in this world than just your friends.

Answer 13

He's following the Neville Chamberlain school of diplomacy. Appeasement at all costs. We know how successfully that one worked out.

Answer 14

Are you so naive or fanatic as to believe the possible "denial of the holocaust" which happened in the 1940's is an important subject in diplomatic relations in 2009?

Or do you really believe that the existence of a shitty rogue state like israel deserves much public interest?

Answer 15

The truth is we elected a Muslim that supports Iran, and doesn't mind turning a blind eye to Iran's quest for destruction and hatred. So is he Naive....no. Is he stupid.....that is debatable.

So who is the stupid and naive....The 65% or so Americans that didn't even look into his past, didn't care about his past, or just went with the liberal media biased and voted in a Muslim to President.

Answer 16

No. Obama won't enter into negotations with amdenajhad . Instead well continue feeding 80 million dollars a day to the saudi royal family and indirectly to Osama Bin Laden thier golden child.



if you think about this clearly a second you might learn something:



"Better the devil you know than the one you don't".

Answer 17

I think anyone who merely discounts Obama as "stupid/naive" are probably a little stupid or naive.



Sorry.

Answer 18

This question is very long. Break it down into smaller questions, one at a time?

Answer 19

He is doing the right thing.

Answer 20

"This question is very long."



That's because its a 'Chat' 'Rant'.