Arm chair democrats how would you have handled George Floyd without tasers or pepper spray ?

Question

Arm chair democrats how would you have handled George Floyd without tasers or pepper spray ?

Answer 1

If Democrats were involved they would have sent him to sensitivity training where he would have also died of a fentanyl overdose just the same. 

Answer 2

There is claim that police training is somehow flawed (and is apparently what "defunding the police" means), but certainly you don't need training to know kneeling on one's neck is simply a cruel and unusual punishment. Police offers must have some training of humane, non-murderous, and effective ways to restrain people. As for your question, wouldn't you have a group of officers holding him down and arresting him? And if needed, wouldn't you chase him rather than kill him? No need to kneel on a neck, use tasers, or use pepper spray!

Answer 3

Any Democrat and Arm Chair Democrat   would have cuffed him       hands behind and or next to a pole or arms around a pole fool.

Answer 4

tell him that it is all about slavery.

Answer 5

What is an “armchair Democrat”? For example if you call somebody an “armchair quarterback” it means they’re not a real quarterback but they’re just second-guessing what a real quarterback is doing or should do or should have done. . Obviously that’s not the meaning you intended to convey in terms of applying the same metaphor to “Democrats” and the use of force by cops. Maybe you should develop a little more skill with the English language before you make an idiot of yourself like you’ve just done here.  Typical low IQ trumpublican. LOLOLOLOLOLOL

Answer 6

Well for starters, I wouldn't rest my knee on someone's windpipe. That's just excessive.

I'm not a police officer, but I'm rather familiar with human anatomy and physiology. Resting your body weight on someone's neck is something you would do if you were trying to suffocate someone.

Answer 7

not kill him??????

Answer 8

I haven't police training. Since I'm not a racist I would have handcuffed him to something he couldn't move. I see no reason to kill him.

Answer 9

Well for starters I wouldn't have killed him. 

Answer 10

You folks answering, if you were paying attention to the trial, you would know by now that it was the pressure on his ribs that killed him, not on his neck.  Unless it was heart disease and carbon monoxide.

I saw the famous picture of the knee on the neck, and I know my physiology; so I couldn't see how that could have killed him.  Turns out it didn't.  It was the knees on his back and the pressure pushing his handcuffed hands into his ribs so he couldn't inhale enough, until finally he ran out of oxygen.

Drugs might have contributed, but it looks like they didn't; unless some more evidence comes in on that.

Sorry for the rant, My Clone.  It really isn't clear yet why the police responded the way they did: accident, mistake, desire to kill, desire to hurt, fear of Floyd, fear of the onlookers, ignorance - I'm watching the trial and I don't know yet.

This is very different from Zimmerman's trial, in which the Prosecution proved reasonable doubt well before the Defense had its say.  

Answer 11

He was handcuffed and obviously not going anywhere.

Answer 12

Carried him under arrest in a police van to jail, booked him for charges for which he was arrested.

Answer 13

I would’ve treated him with respect and dignity and let him go I just ask him not to break the law anymore.  Similar to what we are taught as children.  

Answer 14

call for backup and dragged his butt to the precinct. All he did was refuse to move. He was handcuffed. 

Answer 15

billy clubTASER or rubber bullets

Answer 16

woona had to, he dinna do anyfing wrong!!

Answer 17

Vulcan neck pinch

Answer 18

Police training should enable five cops to handle one suspect, even if he is a large strong man, without rendering him unconscious. Earlier Floyd was hand cuffed and sitting up, I would have waited him out right there until he realized he had no other option but to get up and go with them. Being handcuffed and surrounded by 5 officers, what option did he have? Further after he was immobilized on the ground with three cops already holding Floyd down I wouldn’t have knelt on his neck til he passed out and maybe dead. Police have an obligation to protect a suspect once in their custody by treating them humanely. That was not done in his case. Too many times suspects, especially minorities, are not treated fairly. It’s the impetus, rightly so, behind the BLM movement.

Answer 19

It would not have been easy

Answer 20

He was handcuffed and obviously not going anywhere.

Answer 21

First off, by not killing him via  asphyxiation. Those means you mention are used to effect an arrest when the suspect is resisting. So is pinning him to the ground. However, Keeping a knee to the neck is potentially leathal and should not be utilized (more obvious now), and refusing to let up SEVERAL minutes after Floyd complained about not being able to breath, after Floyd had quit resisting, after Floyd stopped moving and talking altogether. For several minutes. 



Floyd is not on trial. Chauvin’s zealous overuse of force,  long after it was needed to control the situation, that resulted in the death of someone he had in custody, whom he is entirely responsible for while that individual is in custody, that is the issue here

Answer 22

Your question is irrelevant. He was murdered by a policeman. It was a snuff film. 

Answer 23

I would have used tasers or pepper spray. He was a big guy. But is this the issue here? I thought it was putting a knee on his neck as he yelled, "I can't breathe!"

Answer 24

Democrats would have dropped their pants and grabbed their ankles.

Answer 25

I am a Never trump Republican who would have handled it the way hundreds of thousands of other arrests are handled. Once in cuffs, no continued application of force beyond controlling a suspect. Once in the car, don’t remove until you get to the station or hospital depending on circumstances. Never ever kneel on a suspect in cuffs. 

Answer 26

Armchair Republicans: When was the last time you had someone kneel on your neck?

Answer 27

You mean with him already handcuffed behind his back and him on his belly?  How difficult is it to deal with a guy who's handcuffed??  Maybe just wait out his tantrum.

Answer 28

I would not have taken a cuffed suspect back out of the police car and crushed his neck.

Answer 29

Same way law enforcement safely apprehended this pasty white guy who murdered two with his legally owned firearm before running still armed from the cops yet was apprehended without pepper spray or taser, handcuffed, politely sat on the ground and given water. 



"George Floyd was a violent, useless excuse of a human being"



Really now.  Can you find me violent criminal history that isn't 13 years old.

Answer 30

Well, he was on the ground, hand-cuffed. 

Answer 31

So after he was pepper sprayed, tasered and handcuff, you also couldn't handle him other than sitting on his neck for ten minutes?



What cracks me up is that you claim to be against the government.

Answer 32

I'm not a Democrat, but I believe the answer is let him go and scold him. But scold him sternly so you feel like you did something of value.  Then, hope for the best. 

Answer 33

Well I am not an arm chair democrat, 

I do teach how to handle these situations though, Wrist and other joint locks would have been effective as well in his situation. but police are not trained for that. They get a 6 week crash course on how to deal with all situations. Good luck with that.

Answer 34

Once he was handcuffed, which he was early in the proceeding, if you will, what would be the purpose for tasers or pepper spray?  Although, I am not familiar with any tasers or pepper spray being involved in the Floyd matter.  

Answer 35

By being handcuffed, on the ground Floyd was not a danger to  himself or others. No further restraining action was required.

Answer 36

Dear Clone,

It's not you...

I am an "arm chair Liberal Democrat".

I have done psychiatric intake work for decades and we have to restrain patients as big as (if not bigger) than George Floyd.

NEVER have the hospital staff ever hurt anyone let alone killed anyone putting someone in full restraints when they threaten the staff, the other patients or attempt to hurt themselves.



NEVER!



And the hospital that I work for is NOT THE EXCEPTION but rather the example of every hospital in America.



So tell me, Clone...how can we do it every day without injury or death and the Minneapolis Police can't?



We're all well trained and they are not.

Answer 37

Once you have his hands in restraints behind his back, It's fairly easy for even a small person to keep him off balance until he can be seated in the back seat of a car. The cops obviously wanted to inflict pain. Control and restraint were obviously NOT their priorities.

Answer 38

It's completely pointless to even ask the Left this question when they all have 'canned' answers to begin with. They just repeat whatever their Entertainment Gods and Media Stars say.

Answer 39

You will be amazed how some of these $hit talkers handle under pressure 

Answer 40

A democrat would ask him to show up at court at his convenience with the idea he should not now, or ever be held responsible for his deeds.

Then i would blame white people for deeds NOT done by their ancestors over 150 years ago today and hold them responsible.

And the final chase of my tail will be complaining about police not stopping crime in my neighborhood committed by fellow democrats, against us. Followed by locking up our men and leaving some woman's 5 good children with 4 different jails to visit on Sunday while the ball games are on. 

Answer 41

For all of you not even watching the trial, there was no knee on anyone's windpipe. Floyd wasn't choked. It did not happen. Chauvin sat on his back/shoulder and his lungs were compressed because they were 80% full of fluid (from Covid & drugs). If Floyd was sober and healthy, no amount of sitting on him would have caused his death.

Answer 42

I would have handled him by not resting my knee on his neck for over 8 minutes while he’s already cuffed, subdued, and not resisting — and I wouldn’t then continue to rest my knee on him after he’s unconscious.

Answer 43

It is supposedly properly trained 'unarmed apprehension!' =<)

Answer 44

Not just us compassionate law-abiding Democrats, Question Mark, but some sane Republicans would have noted that the passing of a single seemingly counterfeit $20 bill to buy a banana and a pack of cigarettes (shown on camera) was a very minor offense, especially when the then-18-year-old clerk said he didn't think George Floyd even knew the bill was counterfeit.  The store policy was to have the customer replace the bill with a real one---and in George Floyd's case that could have meant simply giving back the change and making up the spent difference (the price of a pack of cigarettes and a banana, probably about $5).  The police officer could have approached the vehicle without any guns drawn (Chauvin was hostile from the git-go and did draw his gun), have the driver (Floyd) roll down his window, and explain the situation to him, since the clerk seemed pretty sure the customer did not know that bill was counterfeit.  Give the driver the option of replacing the original bill (in part with the change he got and then the extra to make up for what was spent).  The police officer could also have brought the young clerk out to collect the money, thus deescalating the situation.  There was no need whatsoever for any weapons, since a ticket or court summons could have been issued and the police officers could have been on their merry way.  

Answer 45

You give him a ticket like the cop suppose to do and let the court handle it.

Answer 46

Jesus would have left him the **** alone at worst

Answer 47

I would have simply not become a cop and instead decided to become a worthwhile member of society

Answer 48

He had already been subdued when Chauvin decided to choke him to death.

Answer 49

Any one knows it takes 8 cops and there was only 4 .  That's half the answer right there 

Answer 50

Probably wouldn't have crushed his neck for 9 minutes.

Answer 51

First Dragon it doesn't matter if it was his ribs or his neck, He's still dead.

Answer 52

I wouldn't have to. He would recognize that I'm superior as a white man and obey. #liberallogic we all know it's true. There's no need for cops or violence because there is no crime... in my deeply sheltered white suburban world. My dad screwed over TONS of ****** to make it this way so don't screw it up!

Answer 53

Once he was handcuffed and on the ground, then he was subdued and didn't need to be "handled," sweetie.  Chauvin had no need to kneel on his neck for the next 9 minutes.



Were you born stupid, or did someone drop you on your head in infancy?



I don't think you know how to use the word "armchair" in this context. You haven't the faintest idea what it means.  Your attempt at appearing clever and witty failed for reasons of sheer ignorance.

Answer 54

He wasn’t killed he killed himself also a knee to the back of the neck is not lethal



The one who said he was murdered did the cop force him to take an overdose 

Answer 55

Oh thats easy. First no matter how violent he became and regardless of prior arrests no matter how violent or absolutely bad and against the law the thing you are arresting him for and no matter how much fentanyl, you must first apologize for slavery and being born White if you are a White officer and pay him some reparations. Then you let him go with a huge apology and offer him a free ride along with the promise of letting him experience and take part in arresting a White male for that turn signal he obviously used his White privilege to not fix, on your last shift before you resign and insist that you yourself be arrested. "C,mon Man" Then you offer BLM everything you have and don't even think. The nerve of you being born White AND be po po.

This is what these goofy Libidiot azholes are shooting for and they have little clue how much this stupid stupid sht is going to bite their own az.

Answer 56

Once the guy's in handcuffs, take him to jail. Plain and simple. Stop parading people around like they're some animal you bagged on a hunt. Get his *** to prison. If he has health complaints, let prison officials handle it once he's in custody so its out if your hands. If he complains in route, alert dispatch so they're aware of the situation and take him to the nearest medical facility so they can give the prisoner medical treatment. How hard can it be? You don't have to be an armchair anything to do the right thing.

Answer 57

He was handcuffed and in the back of a police car, I would have closed the door.

Answer 58

Maybe asked for the $20 bill he was accused of using and inspected it instead of being so fixated on arresting him and letting the bill get away without ever checking it like those police officers did.

Answer 59

Giving him a ticket to appear.

Answer 60

"Arm chair democrats?"  What are you implying - that the man should have been killed for passing a bad $20 bill?  Methinks you need to wait for the defense to present its' case instead of assigning guilt at the half-way mark of the trail.

Answer 61

Handled him for what? He was complying and what was the real reason he was killed outside that vehicle and not arrested, just murdered?