Question:
How can Palin give Canada advice on their health care?
ICH8TE
2009-11-28 03:18:03 UTC
Many in Canada are satisfied with their health care." 90% of Canadians" support their health care program. Will she ever run outta feet to put in her mouth?! I didn't hear a peep about this on the news. She's even got the Canadians mad at her now lol !

http://rawstory.com/2009/11/palin-canada-health-care/
21 answers:
The Patriot
2009-11-28 14:59:08 UTC
Anyone can give Canada advice. My four year old daughter can do that. It does not mean it will make sense though!



I am always amazed how many Americans seem not to be aware about the real healthcare issues relying instead on FOX and other sources to spread lies about the healthcare system of the USA and those abroad. I mean, if healthcare in nations with universal coverage is so bad, why do they keep it?

Obama wants to make insurance more available to all and change the system so that it gives the American people value for money [1]. He also wants change so that the insurance companies find it harder to get out of paying for treatment. The system he is proposing looks similar to that which works in Taiwan where private companies are involved in providing healthcare [2].

Obama campaigned on reforming the healthcare system. He said he wanted to make insurance more available and he was elected by the American people to do this [3].

FACT - the US has higher death rates for kids both for kids aged under one and those under five than western European countries with universal health coverage [4].

FACT – American insurance companies push up prices and work to stop paying out claims on those they cover [5].

FACT - the USA spends more on healthcare PER PERSON than any other nation on the planet [6].

That means that a dead American four year old would have had a better chance of life if they were born in any western nation with universal health coverage.

If you do not like the policies that Obama was elected to bring in, he can always be voted out of office in 2012. But if you disagree with the facts, please let me know. I am always willing to learn, but please provide proof. None of those who disagree with me have been able to do that so far.
Morris
2016-05-28 10:57:52 UTC
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Steve
2009-11-29 04:32:21 UTC
By minding her own business.



Canadians are overwhelmingly happy with their health insurance system and any suggestions from Palin, or any other American politician would not be appropriate or wanted.



The percentage of Canadians who go abroad for treatment is miniscule compared to the amount of medical treatment performed in Canada.
David C
2009-11-28 04:23:36 UTC
To CaptainFreon:



“I feel darn good that 92 per cent of Canadians would recommend their family doctor to a friend. That is the litmus test,” said Sharon Johnston, a family physician and University of Ottawa professor.



Jack Layton, leader of the Canadian New Democratic Party (NDP), says that 85 percent of Canadians are happy with their health care system and not even the conservative parties in Canada would dare call to dismantle it.
kelchner
2016-09-09 13:35:38 UTC
Ms. Palin is a political candidate. Many older Americans go the border into Canada in order that they will acquire their medicines at slash charges. Older Americans, you spot, are almost deficient. Many continue to exist lower than $a thousand per 30 days and the rate of prescription medicines (for survival) are particularly luxurious within the USA. Here within the US the Medical, Insurance, Pharmaceutical complicated continues the cost of medicines top. This presents their shareholders (people who have invested within the manufacturer) a top annual go back on their funding. Ms. Palin, being mindful that the senior citizen vote is relatively major, recommended that she and her loved ones (knowledge what it used to be love to be deficient) went to Canada for wellness care. In my opinion, she used to be shopping for long term votes.
anonymous
2009-11-28 04:01:04 UTC
You people are really scared of Palin aren't you? She is a private citizen yet you spend so much time trying to demonize her that make you appear a bit imbalanced.



If all of those Canadians are so pleased with their health care why do so many seek treatment in the US?



It is necessary for Palin to comment on the Canadian health care system because it is the liberals stated goal of bringing the same system here.
Peace Through Blinding Force
2009-11-28 17:47:26 UTC
No one knows jack about "the system." 90% of people think whatever they do about their country's "system" because the guys on their TV tell them so.

Polled about THEIR OWN EXPERIENCES, most Canadians are NOT happy.
anonymous
2009-11-28 04:14:32 UTC
My Canadian friends are very proud of their healthcare. Palin is a true idiot.
Mark
2009-11-28 03:47:50 UTC
Canadas health care system is bankrupt. Your "90%" figure is merely propaganda. It isnt true, for one- but ANY number you find on it will be inaccurate because many pollsters are biased to begin with and they do their best to make sure it reads how they want it too. Polls are garbage, many times, on any side of the argument.



I heard the Palin comment as it aired, and she has just as much right to her opinion as we all do. So, HOW can YOU assume that she doesnt have a right to offer advice that SHE thinks is good advice?



Its this kind of ranting that really makes Yahoo Answers suck sometimes. But then, it seems there are a lot of children on here who just like to start trouble.
anonymous
2009-11-28 03:50:56 UTC
Says a lot about her fans, doesn't it. To them she is the personification of wisdom. If one were so desperate, one should just walk out into the Alaskan waste and end it.
Debra D
2009-11-28 03:24:32 UTC
Canada is our closest ally. It's nice of them to help us out and listen to her insane rantings. Canadians must spend 6 months a year in Canada in order to keep their health care and they do it because for the most part it works for them.
bmovies60
2009-11-28 05:15:12 UTC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw
SERENAZ
2009-11-28 03:36:20 UTC
Well that'll teach her for 'going rogue' all over the place ... she should stick to 'going rogue on her porch in Wasilla where she can p*ss of the Russians too!
Monster Brain
2009-11-28 03:37:47 UTC
Canadian Health Care sux and to say it does not is a total lie.



http://www.heritage.org/Research/SocialSecurity/bg807.cfm



Tell me where it is good from this article please?



http://yedda.com/questions/Canadian_Socialized_Health_Care_1869107797311/

http://www.businessweek.com/debateroom/archives/2008/06/health_care_go.html



Need I out more links? Type in Canadian Health Care Nightmares and see what you get.
Yahooters
2009-11-28 03:22:53 UTC
Apparently she wants people to die. Why is this imbecile even in the news? She's no different than Paris Hilton.
anonymous
2009-11-28 03:43:09 UTC
Anyone can, their system sux's.
anonymous
2009-11-28 03:25:01 UTC
shes hoping maybe theyll listen to her dumb ***
anonymous
2009-11-28 03:23:03 UTC
Are you EVEN ABLE to supply a reliable link to that bogus statement: "90% of Canadians" support their health care program". NOT!

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Peace and Love
2009-11-28 03:21:53 UTC
she is a compulsive stupidifier
MINDY
2009-11-28 03:40:18 UTC
The population in Canada has a longer life span than the US population too.

They are in the top 10. The USA in the 40's.

Palin must not read much.

She is all for big business, and these suckers who thinks she is "one of them" are sadly mistaken!



Should the United States implement a more inclusive, publicly funded health care system? That's a big debate throughout the country. But even as it rages, most Americans are unaware that the United States is the only country in the developed world that doesn't already have a fundamentally public--that is, tax-supported--health care system.



That means that the United States has been the unwitting control subject in a 30-year, worldwide experiment comparing the merits of private versus public health care funding. For the people living in the United States, the results of this experiment with privately funded health care have been grim. The United States now has the most expensive health care system on earth and, despite remarkable technology, the general health of the U.S. population is lower than in most industrialized countries. Worse, Americans' mortality rates--both general and infant--are shockingly high.



Different paths



Beginning in the 1930s, both the Americans and the Canadians tried to alleviate health care gaps by increasing use of employment-based insurance plans. Both countries encouraged nonprofit private insurance plans like Blue Cross, as well as for-profit insurance plans. The difference between the United States and Canada is that Americans are still doing this, ignoring decades of international statistics that show that this type of funding inevitably leads to poorer public health.





Meanwhile, according to author Terry Boychuk, the rest of the industrialized world, including many developing countries like Mexico, Korea, and India, viscerally understood that "private insurance would [never be able to] cover all necessary hospital procedures and services; and that even minimal protection [is] beyond the reach of the poor, the working poor, and those with the most serious health problems." 1 Today, over half the family bankruptcies filed every year in the United States are directly related to medical expenses, and a recent study shows that 75 percent of those are filed by people with health insurance.2



The United States spends far more per capita on health care than any comparable country. In fact, the gap is so enormous that a recent University of California, San Francisco, study estimates that the United States would save over $161 billion every year in paperwork alone if it switched to a singlepayer system like Canada's.3 These billions of dollars are not abstract amounts deducted from government budgets; they come directly out of the pockets of people who are sick.



The year 2000 marked the beginning of a crucial period, when international trade rules, economic theory, and political action had begun to fully reflect the belief in the superiority of private, as opposed to public, management, especially in the United States. By that year the U.S. health care system had undergone what has been called "the health management organization revolution." U.S. government figures show that medical care costs have spiked since 2000, with total spending on prescriptions nearly doubling. 4



Cutting costs, cutting care



There are two criteria used to judge a country's health care system: the overall success of creating and sustaining health in the population, and the ability to control costs while doing so. One recent study published in the Canadian Medical Association Journal compares mortality rates in private forprofit and nonprofit hospitals in the United States. Research on 38 million adult patients in 26,000 U.S. hospitals revealed that death rates in for-profit hospitals are significantly higher than in nonprofit hospitals: for-profit patients have a 2 percent higher chance of dying in the hospital or within 30 days of discharge. The increased death rates were clearly linked to "the corners that for-profit hospitals must cut in order to achieve a profit margin for investors, as well as to pay high salaries for administrators."5



“To ease cost pressures, administrators tend to hire less highly skilled personnel, including doctors, nurses, and pharmacists…,” wrote P. J. Devereaux, a cardiologist at McMaster University and the lead researcher. “The U.S. statistics clearly show that when the need for profits drives hospital decisionmaking, more patients die.”



The value of care for all



Historically, one of the cruelest aspects of unequal income distribution is that poor people not only experience material want all their lives, they also suffer more illness and die younger. But in Canada there is no association between income inequality and mortality rates—none whatsoever.



In a massive study undertaken by Statistics Canada in the early 1990s, income and mortality census data were analyzed from all Canadian provinces and all U.S. states, as well as 53 Canadian and 282 American metropolitan areas.6 The study concluded that “the relationship between income inequality and mortality is not universal, but instead depends on social and political characteristics specific to place.” In other words, government health policies have an effect.



“Income inequality is strongly associated with mortality in the United States and in North America as a whole,” the study found, “but there is no relation within Canada at either the province or metropolitan area level -- between income inequality and mortality.”



The same study revealed that among the poorest people in the United States, even a one percent increase inincome resulted in a mortality decline of nearly 22 out of 100,000.



What makes this study so interesting is that Canada used to have statistics that mirrored those in the United States. In 1970, U.S. and Canadian mortality rates calculated along income lines were virtually identical. But 1970 also marked the introduction of Medicare in Canada -- universal, singlepayer coverage. The simple explanation for how Canadians have all become equally healthy, regardless of income, most likely lies in the fact that they have a publicly funded, single-payer health system and the control group, the United States, does not.



Infant mortality



Infant mortality rates, which refl ect the health of the mother and her access to prenatal and postnatal care, are considered one of the most reliable measures of the general health of a population. Today, U.S. government statistics rank Canada's infant mortality rate of 4.7 per thousand 23rd out of 225 countries, in the company of the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Australia, and Denmark. The U.S. is 43rd--in the company of Croatia and Lithuania, below Taiwan and Cuba.



All the countries surrounding Canada or above it in the rankings have tax-supported health care systems. The countries surrounding the United States and below have mixed systems or are, in general, extremely poor in comparison to the United States and the other G8 industrial powerhouses.



There are no major industrialized countries near the United States in the rankings. The closest is Italy, at 5.83 infants dying per thousand, but it is still ranked five places higher.7



In the United States, infant mortality rates are 7.1 per 1,000, the highest in the industrialized world -- much higher than some of the poorer states in India, for example, which have public health systems in place, at least for mothers and infants. Among the inner-city poor in the United States, more than 8 percent of mothers receive no prenatal care at all before giving birth.



Overall U.S. mortality



We would have expected to see steady decreases in deaths per thousand in the mid-twentieth century, because so many new drugs and procedures were becoming available. But neither the Canadian nor the American mortality rate declined much; in fact, Canada's leveled off for an entire decade, throughout the 1960s. This was a period in which private care was increasing in Canadian hospitals, and the steady mortality rates reflect the fact that most people simply couldn't afford the new therapies that were being offered. However, beginning in 1971, the same year that Canada's Medicare was fully applied, official statistics show that death rates suddenly plummeted, maintaining a steep decline to their present rate.



In the United States, during the same period, overall mortality rates also dropped, reflecting medical advances. But they did not drop nearly so precipitously as those in Canada after 1971. But given that the United States is the richest country on earth, today's overall mortality rates are shockingly high, at 8.4 per thousand, compared to Canada's 6.5.



Rich and poor



It has become increasingly apparent, as data accumulate, that the overall improvement in health in a society with tax-supported health care translates to better health even for the rich, the group assumed to be the main beneficiaries of the American-style private system. If we look just at the 5.7 deaths per thousand among presumably richer, white babies in the United States, Canada still does better at 4.7, even though the Canadian figure includes all ethnic groups and all income levels. Perhaps a one-per-thousand difference doesn't sound like much. But when measuring mortality, it's huge. If the U.S. infant mortality rate were the same as Canada's, almost 15,000 more babies would survive in the United States every year.



If we consider the statistics for the poor, which in the United States have been classified by race, we find that in 2001, infants born of black mothers were dying at a rate of 14.2 per thousand. That's a Third World figure, comparable to Russia's.8



But now that the United States has begun to do studies based o
Hussein Terrorist Pig
2009-11-28 03:22:13 UTC
Canada's healthcare is crap.


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