Will the US soon return to a For-Profit Medicine model, which worked perfectly fine?

Question

It seems that in his mad rush to "fundamentally transform" America, Obama threw out the baby with the bathwater

Answer 1

Obamacare is a DISASTER, FACT!!

Answer 2

??? Return to? It still IS a for-profit model.



Worked perfectly FINE? Millions made homeless due to health care costs, tens of millions needless suffering from treatable conditions, tens of thousands of premature deaths every year?



No, it was NOT working fine. That's why most Americans had been BEGGING for health care reform for DECADES.



Until the economy crashed, and apart from times when wars were uppermost in people's minds, health care reform was number ONE on most Americans' wish list; and it never fell far from that spot.



That's because it did NOT work perfectly fine at all. Costs doubled every couple of years; needless death and suffering increased every month.



YOU may thinks it really great when families lose their homes, people suffer, and people die, but we HUMANS disagree.

Answer 3

I think you mean free market medicine model? Even if the US return to such a model, there are other things that can still artificially raise the cost of medicine



1) Monopoly enforced by American medical association. Only their certified M.Ds can practice medicine.

2) Ridiculous lawsuits causing the wasteful practice of defensive medicine



and maybe more that I'm not aware of.

Answer 4

Lol, your "for profit" health system lead to $100 trillion in future estimates of government debt - and that was before Obama was elected. This is from 2008:



http://www.ncpa.org/pdfs/A_Bleak_Future.pdf



Medicare + social security future costs: $100 trillion. 85 trillion of that is just medicare. Before Obama was elected. And now, Republicans scream about "medicare cuts". Well how is America supposed to reduce the $85 trillion dollar future cost of medicare without actually reducing it?



Medicare is the "big ticket item" that is going to bankrupt the nation. Not social security, not food stamps. the $85 trillion payout that is coming due for pre-Obama Medicare commitments. Obama is working on it (hence the "oh no! medicare is being cut" from Republicans).



http://nation.time.com/2013/10/14/obamacares-reviled-medicare-cuts-have-turned-out-better-than-expected/

Answer 5

"Not gonna happen" (read with Bush Sr. accent). The old system DID NOT work for the 45 million that had no insurance but WILL have insurance now. It was "perfectly fine" only for those weathy enough, or lucky enough to have insurance paid by someone else. So now it seems that since CONS have no alternative the old system must have been "ok". IT WAS NOT.

Answer 6

I think you have a vivid imagination. We still have the same for-profit medical system we've always had. Insurance companies made some reforms to allow people to get insurance and Medicaid was expanded in 14 states.

Answer 7

why do cons never see the errors in the systems they promote?



millions without preventative care and only access to expensive emergency= "works perfectly fine"



we can not have a conversation when you refuse to admit that the emperor has no on clothes... or at least is without some socks...



what baby was thrown out? 5 million people lost MOSTLY bad insurance? to give THEM AND THE 40 MILLION WITHOUT better access?

Answer 8

Worked fine?

If you could afford it which the majority of people could not.

The health institutions in the US are some of the best in the world, problem was that they were becoming so cost prohibitive that the majority of people could have never afforded them.

Changes had to be made.

Answer 9

I've been in clinical practice for over forty years and just retired. In those forty years, "for profit medicine" has NEVER worked "just fine". Not one of my colleagues disagrees with that assessment...not a single one!

Answer 10

oh, I hope so. my fear is that this obamacare fiasco has so disrupted what we had that it will be either impossible to put it back in place or that, at best, it will wind up costing us all a lot to do so. the simple fact is that once you've thrown the baby out with the bath water, you can go out and retrieve the baby but you'll have to deal with the injuries, cuts, scrapes, and abrasions the baby suffered when he bounced and banged to a stop. that will cost us all.

Answer 11

If the American health care system was so great why didn't you see other countries rushing to adopt it?

Answer 12

it has already begun. both patients and doctors are tired of insurance company abuses.