Question:
Was the U.S. founded on Freemasonry?
anonymous
2010-02-20 03:56:34 UTC
As a Mason goes through the 32 degrees of the Scottish rite, he ends up giving worship to every Egyptian pagan god, the gods of Persia, gods of India, Greek gods, Babylonian gods, and others. As you come to the 17th degree, the Masons claim that they will give you the password that will give him entrance at the judgment day to the Masonic deity, the great architect of the universe. It is very interesting that this secret password is "Abaddon".

Revelation 9:11 They had a king over them, the angel of the Abyss, whose name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek, Apollyon" The 'angel' of the Abyss (Hell) is really the chief demon whose name is Abaddon. Masons claim then, that the deity they worship is Abaddon!
Twelve answers:
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2010-02-20 04:10:35 UTC
Only some of the founding fathers of the USA were freemasons
meat
2010-02-20 15:31:06 UTC
The United States of America was indeed founded on the tenets of Freemasonry.



The Scottish Rite - an appendent (and not required) body of Freemasonry is commonly known within the fraternity as the college of Freemasonry, where a Mason may go to get further education on the tenets of the fraternity. It's not a religion, and there's no worshiping that takes place. Usually, you get a lecture and a play for each of the degrees. Maybe lunch or dinner, too.



The 17th Degree - Knight of the East and West - is an approach to Christian ethics.



I see your bible reference - Revelation 9:11 - and raise you one: Matthew 7:3: "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?"



Ignorance is a terrible thing.
J. R.
2010-02-20 09:17:53 UTC
Have you been through the Degrees of the Scottish Rite? I doubt it, since being a Freemason, and ergo becoming a member of the Scottish Rite requires the individual to be a male. I, on the other hand, am familiar with the Masonic and the Scottish Rite Degrees, including the 3 S/R degrees that are seldom performed outside of New Orleans... and what you propose to be fact is a complete fallacy. Your source is bunk, and did you know forbiddenknowledge.com is considered by many international law enforcement agencies to be a hate group? Way to go.



Most Founding Fathers were not Masons, and there were quite a few who were actually anti-Masons. Can you find some ideals in our government that might be inspired by Masonry? Sure. You can find ideals in our government that were inspired by or adopted from many sources, big woo.



You may go now.
Poor Richard
2010-02-20 18:18:09 UTC
To support "meats" answer unless you have a basis of actuall study into the fraternity as either a member or learned scholar one would realize that yes, basic Masonic customs and rules served as a template for what became the government of the United States.



A VERY big tenant of Freemasonry is to dispel superstition, while letting individuals decide for themselves which "god" they choose to worship. It endorses religion as the basis of good character, but it does not require you to believe in a particular doctorine Christian, Muslim, Jewish or otherwise.



As part of this tenant it also endorses "tolerance" regardless of the religion and does not seek to convert anyone to a particular religion or theology. Simply said Freemasonry leaves the religious judgement where it belongs to god and god alone, and has cringed at unchecked religious fanaticism which has killed more people than its united.



The founders new this, and while all of them were deeply religious in thier own way. They were not about to let a church dictate policy to the government under which these tenants were founded by uniting common ideals regardless of religion. People would be proven guilty by reasonable doubt and not by the prayer they said in the morning.



I AM a 32nd degree, your accusations are complete tripe, and smacks of such fanaticism. Freemasonry brought people together and all walks of life almost 400yrs before the formation of the US and the U.N. were even a concept, It unites gods children without the intrusive personal question of a members religion, so long as they have a god thats fine.



Thank god we live in a land where our founders thought the ideals of Freemasonry would be the best template by which to unite people of ALL races and creeds, a place where you could worship and say what you think, vote, run for office, etc all aspects of the fraternity created long before personal liberty was so widespread. Guess what they were right, many people in our country have been able to contribute thier talents to the nation, making it the most influential country in the world. It has brought together German Jewish Scientist and Scottish Engineers, African Musicians, and French philosophers, Hispanic Chefs, and Indian Accountants, and we are still building.



These ideas were so unheared of before U.S. however were quite common in Freemasonry and will continue to be a becon of hope along with the Untied States to all those oppressed because of the color of thier skin, the likeness of thier god, or the way they choose to pray. You worship no god in Freemasonry that is not already your own.
myriam
2016-05-31 21:51:42 UTC
When this was taking place there were several countries with a State religion that everyone had to adhere to. Freedom of religion was one of the main reasons people came here from England. No one wanted another government controlled religion. Separation between church and state was to insure that people could worship in their own faith without interference from the government or the government dictating to the church. The fact that Thomas Jefferson was so careful about having separation between church and state said nothing to indicate that America was not founded on Christian principals. That's why we still have "In God We Trust" on coins. That's why congress and the senate used to start with prayer. That's why in court the Bible is used to swear to tell the truth. A lot of the old practices are now being dropped but yes America was founded on Christian principals - not beliefs.
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2010-02-21 04:17:55 UTC
Stop using bogus resources.



There is NOTHING in Freemasonry that has us worshiping Egyptian Pagan Gods. Your statement is WRONG.



The US was FOUNDED on some Masonic principles, and one of those allows you to post your incorrect statements.



Freemasonry is a fraternity, not a religion, Freemasons as a group, DO NOT worship, it's a secular group.
Eric S
2010-02-20 13:00:01 UTC
That's nothing at all like the 17th Degree I took in the Scottish Rite:



"17th degree Knight of the East and West The lessons of this degree are that loyalty to God is mans primary allegiance, and the temporal governments not founded upon God and His righteousness will inevitably fall. "



It leads to the 18th Degree:

18th ° Knight of the Rose Croix of HR D.M. The lessons taught in this degree are that man must have a new Temple in his heart where God is worshipped in spirit and in truth and that he must have a new law of love which all men everywhere may understand and practice. This degree affirms the broad principles of universality and tolerance.



The Worship of God - do you have problems with that?
Kit Fang
2010-02-20 04:07:30 UTC
You evidently have no knowledge of Freemasonry. Or history (Greek and egyptian gods were the same, just with different names).



Freemasons only have to have a belief in a higher being. They can be Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, or anything else. They worship their own religious deity, not this Abaddon chap, or Egyptian, Persian or any other Gods.



No, the USA was not founded on Freemasonry. It was founded out of a general dislike of taxes and British rule.
anonymous
2010-02-20 03:59:24 UTC
When I was a young college student, and I made absurd propositions, I had a professor who would just say "That's an interesting way of looking at it, I wouldn't have seen it that way."

The older I get, the wiser that response sounds.
Paul Grass™
2010-02-20 04:57:41 UTC
No! Obviously you know little of Free Masonry or you would not make such a statement.
☠SinDelle Morte☠
2010-02-20 04:00:04 UTC
Lol. Since the Pilgrims were Christians and so were our forefathers who wrote the documents that are the basis of our government, my guess would be "No."



EDIT: Thumbs down? ROFLMAO. Please, please, PLEASE tell me you guys actually do know these things are true.



@Kit Fang: You are correct. And most Norse were pretty much the same too.
rightwing radical 1
2010-02-20 04:01:50 UTC
no.


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