Question:
Why do some Americans want our freedom taken away and accept socialism leading to communism?
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Why do some Americans want our freedom taken away and accept socialism leading to communism?
29 answers:
2009-08-20 15:14:15 UTC
No "Socialist" country has ever become communist - never in the history of the world.

Communism happens when unregulated capitalism like czarist Russia abuses its people so much they get sick of it and revolt - just as in China, Vietnam, and Cuba.
Yaya
2009-08-20 15:14:11 UTC
Why are some Americans so easily brainwashed?



Politically and spiritually, that is.



Yawn....
who cares
2009-08-20 15:30:37 UTC
The short answer is they live in fear.

They fear personal responsibility. They fear the uncertainty that comes with freedom. They have a fear of failure. They fear anyone who does not agree with them. They fear adversity. They fear diversity. Socialism is a government that runs on the fear of weak people. America has been breeding this kind of person since the depression. People with the disease of imagined helplessness.
thegreatone
2009-08-20 15:16:38 UTC
I don't think that's what they want. They are trying to make life better for us when they think up stuff that's usually considered socialist. Socialism does not necessarily mean less freedom.
Grscraps
2009-08-20 15:14:30 UTC
He is not taking any rights from anyone. He is adding options. We will still have a capitalist system but we need a socialistic safety need to prevent people from falling to far down. Additionally it will not lead to communism.



The free trade non-sense that we have now is a bigger problem because it is leading to fascism.
MrTeeeeee
2009-08-20 15:14:03 UTC
Taking away my freedom to get ripped off by insurance companies and die from cancer is something i can live with.



I read nothing in the bill about communism...? What page is that?
2009-08-20 15:13:49 UTC
I thought Bush was the one doing that.
2009-08-20 15:13:41 UTC
This is not taking away health care options. This is adding a health insurance option. It actually gives you more freedoms.. more control over your care.



I'm not sure where everyone sees socialism in it... let alone how a public health insurance option would be a slippery slope to communism. That's just insane!





Edit:

"It is not my fears



It is the truth."



No, It's your fears... at the very least.. it's your misunderstanding, or perhaps rather your unwillingness to try to comprehend something fully before attempting to comment on it.
2009-08-20 15:12:34 UTC
First, my rights and freedoms were hijacked by Bozo Bush and if you refuse to believe that, you are ignorant. Secondly, you should be in my government classes so you can learn what socialism is and what communism is and why we are not on the way to either.
ReverseSweep
2009-08-20 15:12:22 UTC
Why do you accept reductions in freedom starting with prayer in schools? Illegality of abortions? Illegality of marijuana? Gay marriage? PATRIOT Act? TV censorship?
Ralph T
2009-08-20 15:46:03 UTC
Because it is easier to let someone else be responsible for you than to be responsible for yourself.

There are a lot of people who know what is going on,but choose to look the other way.

Obamacare will tie all of your personal information into a government database,this includes all of your bank accounts,medical records,assets and liabilities.

It will place all health insurance under government controll in 5 years after going into effect (according to some reports).

Shortly after the presidential election,congressional democrats held hearings about taking all retirement plans that were not being used yet and putting them in the SS Trust Fund.

The government would determine your SS benefits based on wages and your private retirement plan based on your contributions.

The government will guarantee you a 3% return on your private retirement account regardless of what the stock market does.

Not surprising,is the fact than no witness that gave testimony oppossed the plan.
2009-08-20 15:27:01 UTC
by Onlooker



- It guanantees that if you leave your job, you can take your health with you.********** I have that now.

- If you move to another state, you can take your health care with you..********** I have that now

- If you get extremely ill and need expensive treatment, the insurance company will still have keep you as a customer and pay for the treatment.********** I have that now



The only loss of freedom is in your ignorance.********Yes, you have displayed your ignorance.

Read a little, learn a little, and you will have more freedom, such as the freedom to think for yourself rather than have sore losing pundits feeding you lies.***************Exactly! Ignore the politicians that are avoiding answering questions concerning any version of the health care bill. Force your politicians to identify which version is actually being considered.



As you can see, these people are blinded by the thought of free health care. They actually buy the load of crap concerning the UKs NHS.



obamacare is not going to extend your life span. It is not going to make you healthy.



Life insurance does not keep you alive. Home owners insurance does not keep your house from burning. Auto insurance does not prevent accidents. And health insurance won't make you healthy.
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2016-10-06 12:58:22 UTC
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Naughtums
2009-08-20 15:14:28 UTC
What part of a voluntary health plan takes away any of your freedoms?



What do you think about Social Security? It's been around for nearly a century and is instituted at gunpoint (in that armed men will put you in prison if you do not participate). Does that mean we already went more communist than Obama 80 years ago?



How about Medicare/Medicaid? Those government health care programs have been around for decades too and yet we don't all high step in front of red banners.



I think maybe you should accept the socialist/communist hyperbole for what it is - sky-high rhetoric.



*****EDIT*****



I'm sorry. I realize now that you have posted your additional rants that your just another nutcase who pretends to believe in freedom. I should not have bothered.
Anti Censorship
2009-08-20 15:11:52 UTC
Good evening, America. Allow me first to apologize for this interruption. I do, like many of you, appreciate the comforts of every day routine- the security of the familiar, the tranquility of repetition. I enjoy them as much as any bloke. But in the spirit of commemoration, thereby those important events of the past usually associated with someone's death or the end of some awful bloody struggle, a celebration of a nice holiday, I thought we could mark this November the 5th, a day that is sadly no longer remembered, by taking some time out of our daily lives to sit down and have a little chat. There are of course those who do not want us to speak. I suspect even now, orders are being shouted into telephones, and men with guns will soon be on their way. Why? Because while the truncheon may be used in lieu of conversation, words will always retain their power. Words offer the means to meaning, and for those who will listen, the enunciation of truth. And the truth is, there is something terribly wrong with this country, isn't there? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression. And where once you had the freedom to object, to think and speak as you saw fit, you now have censors and systems of surveillance coercing your conformity and soliciting your submission. How did this happen? Who's to blame? Well certainly there are those more responsible than others, and they will be held accountable, but again truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into a mirror. I know why you did it. I know you were afraid. Who wouldn't be? War, terror, disease. There were a myriad of problems which conspired to corrupt your reason and rob you of your common sense. Fear got the best of you, and in your panic you turned to the now high chancellor, Barack Obama. He promised you order, he promised you peace, and all he demanded in return was your silent, obedient consent. Last night I sought to end that silence. Last night I destroyed the Old Bailey, to remind this country of what it has forgotten. More than four hundred years ago a great citizen wished to embed the fifth of November forever in our memory. His hope was to remind the world that fairness, justice, and freedom are more than words, they are perspectives. So if you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you then I would suggest you allow the fifth of November to pass unmarked. But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me one year from tonight, outside the gates of Parliament, and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot.
BLADEMAN
2009-08-20 15:15:47 UTC
Why do you think reigning in the crazy increases of insurance premiums and lowering costs for everyone is taking your freedom. Only the insurance companies will lose anything. If you have good insurance and like paying 1/4 of your income (and rising) you can keep it. No one is forcing you to change anything. You just get the FREEDOM to take the OPTION to do so.
Onlooker
2009-08-20 15:11:44 UTC
No one's taking away your freedom. Why don't you read some fair minded account health care reform. It actually gives you more freedom:



- It guanantees that if you leave your job, you can take your health with you.

- If you move to another state, you can take your health care with you.

- If you get extremely ill and need expensive treatment, the insurance company will still have keep you as a customer and pay for the treatment

- If you want to keep your current health care, you'll be able to.



The only loss of freedom is in your ignorance. Read a little, learn a little, and you will have more freedom, such as the freedom to think for yourself rather than have sore losing pundits feeding you lies.
Luck-E
2009-08-20 15:13:33 UTC
Well Socialism and Communism are really almost the same thing.

The Basic concept of communism is that you share what you have, you are content with what you have,and you help the needy. Like China and North Korea they use it for power and strength. I'm not saying thats bad, but its not a good thing. If you think of it as a basic concept it is a decent government. It is like John Locke's idea (kind of)
2009-08-20 15:19:51 UTC
"I do not fear anything except God. For the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom the Bible says."



God told me that you're a pussy who needs to grow a pair.
Jeff S
2009-08-20 15:14:31 UTC
We don't you just prefer to believe what the republicans tell you and won't even consider what the other side says.



That is the biggest problem with republicans today.They only listen to their side of the issue.So they believe what the extreme of what their party tells them.They have no respect for the opposition.
thebabbster
2009-08-20 15:11:29 UTC
Very creative! Administering you daily dose of fear? So your ok with the government checking to see how you're having sex, which movie you're watching, what you are putting into your body, making sure you're going to church, as long as it's not a Democratic government doing it? Ok, now that we have that straight.
2009-08-20 15:11:10 UTC
With the thickest law books in the history of the world, and the most imprisoned than any country in history...



What freedom do you point to?
1
2009-08-20 15:13:17 UTC
How come some Americans don't read the bills they comment on?
Tsar Brainless Harry Reid
2009-08-20 15:11:14 UTC
It's either that or admit their entire lives have been a wasted effort.
Amber Rose
2009-08-20 15:13:46 UTC
I think they just don't get it. Their brain is locked into believing anything Obama says.
liberals are moronicvoters
2009-08-20 15:25:52 UTC
they re blind and being led by the moron they voted in.
racism is unbecoming
2009-08-20 15:13:21 UTC
Your assumptions are false, thus I cannot answer your question.
2009-08-20 15:10:41 UTC
Because some Americans are lazy and devoid of any personal responsibility.
Will
2009-08-20 15:11:35 UTC
How did you get to be so misinformed?


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