Is there ONE single reason to raise the minimum wage other than the greed of poor people?

Question

The minimum wage needs to stay where it's at for at least another 8 years or so. Every other country like Canada that has tried to raise the minimum wage higher than us (with the exchange rate of the dollar taken into account) has met with complete DISASTER and huge unemployment and HUGE price increases.

Learn from the example of Canada and Australia and western Europe.

It is a liberal LIE that says if we raised the minimum wage we'd only see minimal increase in unemployment and only minimal price increases.

Stop LYING.

So, knowing these facts (as Canada and tons of countries crazy enough to raise the minimum wage attest), can you give me ONE good reason that doesn't involve the poor being greedy?

Answer 1

Wanna give us some evidence of the "disaster" in Australia?



"In the past two decades, Australia has enjoyed a period of uninterrupted economic growth – an average of 3.3 percent in real GDP growth annually. Australia possesses a well-diversified economy boosted by the strength of its services and resources industries." http://www.economywatch.com/world_economy/australia/ And China is investing billions of dollars in Australia. Would they do that if Australia's economy were a "disaster"?



I can give you one good reason - it would get the bulk of them off welfare/food stamps/Medicaid, or at least cut back on the amount of assistance they get. I can give you another good reason, too - it would create demand by letting them have more money to spend on discretionary items, which would cause an uptick in hiring and more people working means more income taxes being paid.



However, even though I have provided evidence for my statement and you have not, I do not expect facts to change your mind.

Answer 2

well the minimum wage for poor people is impossible to live off from without assistance so that is not greed. The minimum wage of today is worth less than it was in the late 60's and 70's. Adjusting for inflation would make the current minimum wage of today around 11 to 15 dollars an hour. Western Europe such as Germany pays a much higher minimum wage, and western Europe altogether pays their employees much more than any institute in the United States ever would. In countries like Germany, Sweden, Norway etc the people work less, get paid more, and are generally happier than most Americans. They also offer something called dual education which teaches children and young adults trades like construction, engineering etc so that they can make it in the work force, (making college unnecessary).



The US on the other, overworks their employees, pays them much much less, does not offer dual education unless paid out of pocket, and college is always needed. The minimum wage of today creates what is called Boomerang children, which forces kids into their late twenties to come live back home because of the minimum wage which is not enough to live off from at all.

Answer 3

>Stop LYING



LOL. Why don't you tell us the unemployment rate of each of these countries. Say...



Unemployment rates (December 2013):

Canada 7.2%

United States 7.3%



Unemployment rates (selected countries):

Switzerland 3.1%

Norway 3.5%

Austria 4.8%

Germany 5.2%

Australia 5.5%

New Zealand 6.2%



(Not all numbers are recent, but clearly lower than the United States by a wide margin)



A five second Google of "US unemployment rate" and "Canada unemployment rate" would easily show that Canada has, and has had for nearly three years, a lower unemployment rate than the United States.



Canada's unemployment rate and cost of living is not based on it's minimum wage (which less than 5% of Canadians earn)... it is based on its exports (particularly resource-based exports), immigration and birth rates, costs of importing foods and manufactured goods, realty prices, foreign investment (especially since the US mortgage/banking collapse), its low debt and deficit levels (especially compared to that of the United States), etc.

Answer 4

Are you kidding? This has to be a joke. But given the asinine statements made me conservatives, I can' never tell.



I live in Canada, and the recent Alberta min. wage increase has not resulted in massive unemployment and huge price increases.



Greed of poor people? I seriously hope you're joking. Please be joking.



Corporate executives are the greedy ones. Poor people are NOT greedy for wanting enough to sustain their existence

Answer 5

No there is not. If the left wants an increase in the minimum wage they could protect our southern boarder so there are less low wage workers undercutting the supply and demand pay rate for citizens.



Edit: Yes! Greed. What is it the poor don't have? Never in history have the poor had so much and demanded so much more. They have more that I did growing up. And I didn't grow up poor.



And, tehabwa, to follow "I'm not the liar." with "The sub-human freak who thinks most people should work 70 hours a week for not enough money to EAT every day…" is a declaration against interests if there ever was one. You are in fact a liar, and a puny minded one at that. Spend your own money any way you like. Leave mine alone. You're greed does not take precedence over my ownership.

Answer 6

GREED?



So people who want to EAT every day, in exchange for their labor are greedy. People who want to take tens of billions of everyone else's money while everyone else goes hungry are NOT greedy?



Confused much? Maybe you need to consult a dictionary.



Yes, there are MANY reasons why people who work should be paid for their labor: it's FAIR; it's wrong for the extremely wealthy to refuse to pay for the labor that creates their wealth; it's better for the economy when we don't have more than half the population with no money, while 0.1% have 95% of all wealth. It's INHUMAN to insist that all the workers and their families just die, in exchange for the labor they do.



I see you give NO evidence for your claims.



Wages have stagnated for DECADES -- we need people who work full time to be able to survive.



I'm not the liar. The sub-human freak who thinks most people should work 70 hours a week for not enough money to EAT every day, while 0.1% of people should get ALL the profit of all of their labor are liars.



The sub-human freaks that think it's GREEDY to think one should be paid for one's labor are the liars. The sub-human freaks who think wanting tens of billions of dollars a year is NOT greedy are the liars.

Answer 7

I can accept an increase, but only if it is decided on a state by state level (which is already happening in 21 states!) and I would like to see it done on an industry basis.



I do believe it could be successful in other nations, but no one realizes that those are foreign nations populated with different people. Americans are different people and American companies are different. Tax laws in America are different. A simple dollar to whatever comparison is not valid when you disregard the other contributing factors.



The Warlock

Answer 8

yes the minimum should go up and everything an the U.S. is much higher then the last decade so how could the working classes or anybody else be able to my a load of bread if the paid stay the same so whoever said that keep your mouth shut.

Answer 9

Inflation. But that only is enough of a reason to raise it 50 cents or so.



I agree with you that raising it any more than 10% of it's current amount ($0.72) would cause a lot more negative than positive. But phrasing a question like that isn't going to get you any knowledgeable answers as you sound like an arrogant douche that wouldn't even listen to reason.

Answer 10

I'm scratching my head over the phrase "greed of poor people."



I'm not going to argue, here, your other points.



But to say that poor people are inherently greedy (for wanting to be able to actually pay for the food they consume, say) is a stretch.

Answer 11

Couldn't you just as well say that keeping it low is for the sake of the greed of rich people?



In fact, if you ask me, wanting more income to feed your family is a lot less greedy than wanting more income so you can buy a third or fourth house.

Answer 12

Minimum wage is where you start,not start high and drop down.

Answer 13

I wish the mirror could reflect your inner being, you may even shriek in horror!

Answer 14

You are wrong and I can't say what I would like too as it would be against the rules here

Answer 15

There is not one true statement in that question.

Answer 16

no-- people are greedy to expect a good life. you need only so many "workers"-

they're disposable.