Question:
Conservatives = No Government. Is that what pure conservativism is?
Robert
2009-11-04 14:18:37 UTC
Is a pure conservative someone who does not want a government? I am confused. Do they want a government or not or what?
33 answers:
Larry H
2009-11-04 15:22:53 UTC
As to the role of federal government, Conservatives would say that the founding fathers had it right about the need for government to be limited, and that the Constitution defines the few proper roles of the federal government.



Theoretically (see giant caveats later), conservatives believe that the limits in the Constitution on federal government were met to be limits for all time. Liberals tend to see the Constitution as a document that needs to change with the times - a "living, breathing document."



Conservatives would say that for the most part, individuals, private associations, and the free market can provide. Outside the realm of the Constitution, conservatives would still tend to believe in a smaller local and state government than would liberals.



Some conservative thought says that it is wrong that through taxation, you are being forced to support things monetarily that you may not believe in. Liberals would say that there is a common good that we should all contribute to.



The stereotype is that conservatives want government to leave business (and "the free market") alone, but are busybodies and want government telling you what to do in your private life.



The stereotype for liberals is the opposite - they want government to regulate business more and to stay out of your private life.



(editorial) In reality, liberals are just as likely to tell you what you can and cannot do personally - they believe just as much in taxing or restricting your "sins" as conservatives do. IN fact. liberals are very indignant about a lot of personal behavior they consider "bad" (anti-smoking laws, indignancy about big cars, et cetera). It's just often different behavior than what conservatives believe are bad.



A lot of the reason liberals tend to support taxing personal behavior is because as a rule they are a lot more tolerant of higher taxes - they find them necessary to support everything they'd like the government to do.



Liberals as a rule tend to believe that if there is a problem, there is no reason that the federal government should not try to address it. Conservatives will say "it's not the government's place" and point to supposed Constitutional restrictions or the general concern that government wielding more power will make us less free. Liberals tend to ignore that argument when it comes to the possibility of government addressing "societal problems."



Another big distinction is that conservatives tend to desire defense spending (and military interventionism). Liberals tend to decry military spending and desire "social" spending. But, as can be observed now, liberals in power can end up changing their tune when it comes to war, tending to start marching to the same tune and supporting existing policies.



In practice, "conservatives," for all their "smaller government" belief, don't do much to decrease government spending in Washington. In fact, regarding the federal government, pure "conservative" thought is hardly any different from libertarian thought, in that they both believe the federal government should be restricted in size and scope as defined by the Constitution. Yet, the libertarian party exists and thrives (all things considered), perhaps as a reaction to how little Conservatives, in power, actually do to limit the federal government. Conservatives MAY end up increasing government at a lesser rate than liberals (but even that is quite debatable), but they have a very poor record when it comes to actually decreasing government size, scope, or budget.



(and now.. the editorial)... Just like liberal officeholders, conservatives tend to value getting "free" (emm.. taxpayer) money for their own districts, above and beyond every other goal. When nearly all the congressmen and women, regardless of party affiliation, care more about bringing home federal pork to their districts than they do about... oh.. say.. READING the bills they're foisting upon us, it results in... bigger government (and obviously a bunch of bills that weren't vetted very well, the details of which are ignored, even though they have an effect on Americans).



It is probably true that conservatives are slightly less likely than liberals to "bring home the bacon," but considering their supposed outlook on the size and scope of government, the difference is so slight as to be stark.
2009-11-04 14:31:54 UTC
No. Conservatism is the belief in small government, not no government. Conservatives believe that the government shouldn't be involved in the affairs of the public. This is why the republican party is traditionally the party that is against taxes and healthcare, because both take power from the people and give it to the government. Somebody who believes that government shouldn't exist in the firstplace is an anarchist.



You use the word "pure" as if that meant someone took the concept of "small government" to the extreme. If you used that line of thinking, it would also mean that "pure liberals" wanted security cameras all over the place and didn't want any ownership of anything by the people.
2009-11-04 14:27:21 UTC
No. Conservatives want government out of areas where they don't really belong. For example, in my state all hard liquor is sold in state liquor stores. That doesn't make any sense because it undermines the free enterprise system and eliminates all competition.

Government and abortion -- the government should establish laws that show what a person has to do to practice medicine and let everything else be between the patient and the physician.

Just two examples of how government should not get involved in private matters.
namsaev
2009-11-04 14:39:06 UTC
Mo is right to an extent. It's not that conservatives want NO government. They just don't want any more than is necessary. That's called fiscal conservatives.



Liberals on the other hand think that only they are wise enough to run the country, therefore they want to run the government and control everything. But then they are legends in their own minds.



I have more faith in 300 million individuals determining their own lives than I do a few hundred in DC. The reason if individuals make mistakes those mistakes ony effect them and sooner or later they learn from their mistakes and things improve.



If a few hundred in DC make mistakes it effects not just them but everyone else. Now do you want to suffer for the mistakes I make? I know I don't want to suffer for the mistakes you make.
Marcel Weezt
2009-11-04 14:31:00 UTC
Conservatives know that government has a important role to play and is therefore necessary. However, over the last hundred years or so, the size and power of the federal government has increased dramatically. They now control and run programs that the founding fathers never intended them to have. Conservatives are for government, they are just not for big government controlling it's citizens lives.
Steve G
2009-11-04 14:32:04 UTC
The words "conservative" and "liberal" have been used in different ways at different times, by different people, in different parts of the world, so that your confusion does not indicate that you are not paying attention, or that you are not smart enough to understand!



Libertarian is a more stable term, and I think it is fair to say that a pure libertarian society would have no government at all, although many if not most libertarians would concede that ridding the world of government (or even a part of the world) is an unobtainable goal.
Tiff
2009-11-04 14:29:58 UTC
I consider myself a conservative. I want LESS government. Actually I would settle for the amount of Government we have now without either Republicans or Democrats, maybe two or three new partiess who are still so new that they actually care about what Americans want, and not just about what goes into their wallets.
M.E.
2009-11-04 14:24:46 UTC
To a certain extent, conservatives favor smaller government. But they also tend to favor more restrictions on socials issues, as well as having a well-armed military. So it gets confusing.



Best to look it up on WikiPedia. The article covers a broad range of conservative ideals.
riedinger
2016-10-17 03:35:00 UTC
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Diablo Blanco
2009-11-04 14:24:55 UTC
Absolutely not. The federal government was created to protect the rights of its citizens and to defend our soil from invading armies. To restrict the government to its initial functions would be considered extremely conservative but is certainly more than "No Government."
KiminFL
2009-11-04 14:28:28 UTC
There is a Huge difference between No government and Big government. I am against Big government...but of course we need some government...just not so freakin overboard.
2009-11-04 14:29:18 UTC
Limited government does not mean NO government.
kathy_is_a_nurse
2009-11-04 15:46:23 UTC
No... They want SMALLER government. The current... and frankly previous... administration were working to grow the size of government.
Chupate esa!
2009-11-04 14:26:51 UTC
Is like taxes how less is less government who defines what limited government is...?



When it comes to secretive departments related to "security" there is no limit...
consrgreat
2009-11-04 14:27:56 UTC
No....Less and limited but yes a government
2009-11-04 14:30:14 UTC
Nobody knows. These are vague, practically meaningless terms used by pols to get elected. Look at 'conservative' George W. Bush, who spent more than any other president in history.
2009-11-04 14:24:37 UTC
Yes and no.



YES: We want an honest government that does things the way our founding fathers wanted it to be done. where someone's VOTE actually did matter and they went by majority rules, not lets give them what they want so they stop bitching.



NO: We dont wan't a government run by baboons, and greedy lying bastards like we currently have
2009-11-04 14:25:37 UTC
As some one who wants no government, I can assure you that conservatives do not want anything like no government. They're hypocritical wealth-redistributionists who advocate a sound and highly intrusive government.
2009-11-04 14:22:06 UTC
No. Conservatives want limited federal govt

More power to state and most to local govts



1. MUCH less bureacracy

2. Local Govt officials are more in touch with local needs and much easier to contact and hold accountable than feds
Patchouli42
2009-11-04 14:25:08 UTC
It is to achieve a state of minarchism.



or to put it another way.

The government that governs least, governs best.
2009-11-04 14:27:35 UTC
Not too many conservative anarchists. But look up conservative anarchist. Interesting stuff.
Buying is Voting
2009-11-04 14:23:01 UTC
No. Anarchy = No Government. And anarchy is just a transitional state between an old government and a new one.
TammyLynn
2009-11-04 14:31:02 UTC
no...We want the government regulated instead of the government regulating us.
2009-11-04 14:23:09 UTC
No, conservatives want to CONSERVE the *traditional* things that government does.
lmao
2009-11-04 14:24:06 UTC
No, that's an overexaggeration of the ideals of some conservatives.
2009-11-04 14:24:14 UTC
Cons believe they are smart enough to make the decisions for themselves and their family



Libs believe people are not smart enought to do that and they in tern believe the government should decide how to run your life
Bert
2009-11-04 14:23:03 UTC
Less government...not no goverment.



Anarchy = no government
mike
2009-11-04 14:24:20 UTC
They want things to stay as they are. Big Industry= Middle class paying them to have them. I do know this much, they want the oppisite of the American people, and they will lose seats .They lost the NY 23'rd district, which they tried to cover with we won 2 but i say the most important election went where it was deserved the dems.
Steve
2009-11-04 14:24:02 UTC
No, they're more authoritarian than their liberal counterparts.



EDIT:People really don't know anything about conservatism, liberalism, etc. So I wouldn't take anyone's Opinion from this site. You can't base someones beliefs just on if they're more liberal or conservative, you can be liberal yet libertarian, and you can be conservative yet authoritarian.



Libertarian is basically no government.
2009-11-04 14:24:26 UTC
Unless their state gets blasted by a hurricane flood fire etc. > then It is the Federal Uncle Sam they turn to for help.
2009-11-04 14:24:28 UTC
That's what they say but they love big government in a woman's uterus and a gay couples bedroom. They are also for government making christianity mandatory in public schools.
Fox News Watcher to the end
2009-11-04 14:22:58 UTC
See if you would watch Fox News you would understand ALL......FNW
KO the Con's
2009-11-04 14:24:39 UTC
Conservatism in its purest form is also known as Feudalism.


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