Question:
Conservatives: How possible is it to start a new party or reshape the GOP?
Brandon
2008-11-06 07:08:55 UTC
The state of the Republican party isn't where I'd like to see it. We need to reshape or start a new conservative party.

I admire all that McCain has done, however, putting him against such a young and fresh face in politics was definitely the wrong move. Especially given the political climate!

We have to wake up and realize Bush has unfortunately made our party very unpopular.

We need to really to start working early to ensure a victory in 4 years. We need fresh faces and new ideas. We can't continue with the same Carl Rove politics. What are your thoughts?

How can we beat the democrats in 4 years?

Who should run for president next?
Twelve answers:
joe l
2008-11-06 07:35:12 UTC
We do not need to reshape the party. We need to be loyal to what made the party great.



George Bush made the party unpopular but history has a funny clarity to it. In twenty years, Bush will be the President that saw us through 9/11 and, following five attacks in the previous eight years, had no attacks in the seven years following. He will be seen as a President that saw us through an gas crunch every bit as bad as that of the 70s but without the gas lines. He will be viewed as having a great economy for much of his term in office. He will, of course, be viewed for some of the dumb things he did, increased domestic spending and walking four-squared in to that sham economic bailout crisis, but history will be kind to him.



However, even if it is not, what has he done that is worse than Watergate? Nothing even comparable. The party recovered from that with a formidable force in Ronald Reagan (remember, there have been only two sitting Vice Presidents elected President and one of them was Reagan's Vice President, George Bush). Such will again be the case. As Reagan said, "Now is the time for choosing".



The Dems were a shambles in 1984, 1988 and 1994. They came back. We will to.



The key, for Conservatives, is to stick to your principals. I would rather lose an election than do what the Dems have done for the last eight years. Do not demonize Barack Obama. He will be your President and, if he is successful, it benefits our nation. The likelihood of his success is slim but we should pray for him. We all want the shining city on a hill. Our difference is in how to climb the mountain and I am sure that Conservatism is the best method to accomplish this.



The Republican downfall started with what they did, whether right or wrong it was unpopular, to Clinton. The short term gain has hurt us in the long run. However, sticking to your principals, serving as the loyal opposition and moving forward, as Conservatives, will bring the party back stronger than ever.



Just in the last two days, the media is noticing the class of the Conservative movement. Remember when Bush won? Remember all of the acrimony, in both 2000 and 2004? Remember them taking the "W's" off the computer keyboards. McCain's speech. Rove on O'Reilly last night. The media is noticing that we have class. By being better than them, we are on the road to 2012.



Sarah Palin is now, whether she knows it or not, the leader of the Conservative movement. She must take up the mantel of Reaganism and establish that we are the rising tide that raises all boats and that she can, in fact, lead the way. If she stumbles, people like Michael Steele must be ready to support her. This is the road to 2010, 2012 and beyond.



I have one thing negative to say and that is to Cornell West, who said on CNN that the Reagan Revolution is dead. No, sir. We are now revitalized. There are times when a step back enables you to move forward and this is such a time. It is, again, a time for choosing.
Pfo
2008-11-06 07:17:52 UTC
Realistically, this is all still backlash from Bush. The voters gave him a chance for 5 years, then in 2006, turned on him and elected Democrats to congress. Seeing as how those Democrats did nothing, the people overwhelmingly put more in power. Democrats pretty much control the government today, so there's no excuses why they can't or won't do what they said (other than they fact that they are Democrats).



Bush is gone, no longer can he be there scapegoat. If you remove Bush from the equation of the last 8 years, we really don't have a bad party. Just a lot of civil unrest against a leader that was perceived to be wrong for our country. I think it's only a matter of having president Obama that will be our resurgence, he can't possibly deliver on what he promises. The economy will not improve, unemployment will get worse, and his expensive tax plans and domestic spending will turn the people away from him. It is only a matter of time.
Charlie Bravo
2008-11-06 07:17:50 UTC
The GOP needs to return to pre Bush politics (back to true conservatism----even well before the New Federalists/Nixonites infested Washington DC in the late 60's early 70's).



Common sense and pragmatism is completely absent within a vast swath of the GOP arena these days. Reminds me of what happened back in the early 1990's with the Democratic party (of which spawned vermin like Dan Roskinkowski, James Trafficant, Rush Limbaugh and Ann "Horse's A**" Coulter.



Anyway we all hope the next GOP candidate is more in tune to the moderate base (and is more genuine with his/her message, unlike Palin or Dubya was).
johnsh20
2008-11-06 07:27:00 UTC
The GOP must run on conservatism so that we will regain control of Congress in 2010. Some possible candidates for 2012 are Mitt Romney, Mike Huckabee, Newt Gingrich, Jeb Bush, Bobby Jindal
josefina
2016-05-26 05:22:36 UTC
It would be great if Libertarians could replace the Republican party. But the truth is, there are too many people in the middle of the country that only vote Republican because of the social values that come along with it. To them, conservative values are far from dead. It's their way of life. The Religious Right is one of the only things that's allowing the Republican party to even hold on in days like these.
VoiceOfReason
2008-11-06 07:28:49 UTC
The first intelligent question I've read all morning!!

The conservatives should file for separation from the RNC, with divorce a possible outcome. The RNC continues to finance moderate and liberal Republicans (or RINO's) to the parties detriment.

Conservatives need to unite and show the party who's boss and end the lip service we have been getting form them.

Patriotism First, Conservatism Second and RNC third (thanks to Wilkow)
Jonathan R
2008-11-06 07:19:26 UTC
Bush has not made our party unpopular, the leftist media has. Yes, he may not be able to articulate his comments, nor demonstrate the poise that Obama does, but his actions did not create the financial crisis that confronts us now. Only the press and extremist democratic leaders like Pelosi, and Franks have.

You remember Pelosi's answer to why the first attempt to drive the bail-out bill through the house was defeated.

And how Franks and other Dems were angered when the whistle blowers tried to rein in Fanny and Freddy.

I may not like Bush's lack of eloquence, but he is not the monster the liberal press paints him out to be.
Jack Schitt
2008-11-06 07:13:27 UTC
All im gonna say man, dont worry. im sure people were asking this with carter who ran on teh same principles. i think it will be a wake up call for the GOP to get their head out of their butts, and get back to reagan and true conservitisim. Mccain was a social experiment that proves, that moderates do not win elections, when you cross the line, they break your legs. if you reach across, they break your arms.



and Ill be the first to say, i wasnt voting for mccain as much as against Obama.



It took carter to get us Reagan, and England to get us our founders.



BUT Keep your head high, obama may even suprise us, but not putting any money on that. but rather then cry in the beer, support who has control, and if he pooches, elect him out.
David R
2008-11-06 07:27:05 UTC
First off you need to understand that the constitution is for all americans not just white rich ones. That trickle down economics doesn't work and that separation of church and state is needed to keep religious zealots out of our government.
Lissy
2008-11-06 07:12:18 UTC
Ron Paul



Honestly, I would have been excited enough to vote if he was the candidate.

I would have flown home for $230, but a McCain vote honestly wasn't worth the cost of the plane ticket.
2008-11-06 07:11:37 UTC
Hopefully the Republican party will actually turn conservative so I can join them again.
2008-11-06 07:13:02 UTC
I think we lost because none of us really wanted McCain, too moderate.


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