Question:
Conservatives, have we become distracted by this B.C. issue?
L.T.M.
2008-12-06 19:27:35 UTC
We have plenty of other reasons to despise the man. I opposed the man long before this issue even came up. He hasn't got a clue what has made this country great. Every time I see him giving "Advice" to business or the American people I ask myself the same question...WHO THE H*LL IS THIS DO NOTHING COMMUNITY ORGANIZING AGITATOR TO GIVE ME OR ANYONE ELSE ADVICE!!! Has he ever gotten his hands dirty? (other than by counting illegal campaign contributions)

Have you ever considered that he and his backers are sitting on this birth certificate as a set-up. If they get over this hump it will be much easier to discredit any opposition in the future. "They're just cooks"..."Remember the birth certificate hype"?
24 answers:
Pivoine
2008-12-06 21:16:58 UTC
Here's what I think: He's either buying time to come up with some credible stuff and avoid the "domino effect", or he would have already indulged us stinkin' conservatives who like to hold on to our guns... and presented a nice wrinkled birth certificate that was indeed valid to qualify him....

or

he likes the whole attention even if it's negative, and he's holding to it longer for whatever reasons, because he has greater skeletons in the closet and this one would pass as a minor misdemeanor...



See, when you deal with lawyers like him, you know that thwy will hold their front as long as they can to make people pay, and still come up standing.

Anyone here had to deal with lawyers before?? It's amazing the twisted stuff they can come up with! I think he's looking for a loophole.



Or another hole to crawl into when he's going to be exposed. Let's hope he won't get to touch the Constitution by then!

There, world! How do you like our president elect??? Is he finally the right color?
Drop short and duck
2008-12-07 03:24:16 UTC
Well from where I am in Australia I cannot understand how anyone can be elected into the political arena of American politics without full proof of identity and origins of birth citizenship.



There must be something hidden away by a few heavy weights of powers to be, so that they don't want the average USA citizens to know about BO. (Body Oder)



Is this part of a socialist plot enhanced by Communists theorists to change the morals of American People for the worst.



I am just following the debate and I have looked for some references about this birth certificate issue which doesn't seem right at all and that it doesn't want to disappear under the rug with the rest of the dirt of bad politics as in the past.
No Shortage
2008-12-06 20:06:47 UTC
I agree with you, Levon. I believe that Obama is not an American citizen, but I didn't pay much attention to the birth certificate issue because I knew it wouldn't go anywhere. Obama paid for the election and won fair and square as it were, and that's the way it is. One theory I am working with right now is that Obama's far left supporters are holding the birth certificate over his head, as in do as we say and we won't make you a global embarrassment by exposing you as a fraud and a cheat and having you impeached. Obama is a puppet, always has been, always will be, and what puzzles me the most is why he doesn't have the good sense to care. I've never found him very intelligent, though. He is ambitious and is good at ingratiating himself to the right people, but other than that, he's just another brick in the wall. I just thought he would want to succeed on his own merit. I guess affirmative action got to him, just like Marxism did.
the Ol' Foolosifer
2008-12-07 05:05:56 UTC
Interesting point. The B.C. thing may be a smoke screen devised to get our one track minds on course so they can continue pulling the wool over our eyes.

Maybe this incoming administration are puppets and the ultimate puppeteer is really a magician which is diverting our eyes to the empty hand as he pulls the rabbit from under his coat. His greatest trick will, if this is the case, be when he makes our civil liberties disappear in a cloud of smoke.

The B.C. thing could be a ploy to cover many other much more deceit and covert operations that are going on right under our noses as a distraction, but as we see it we are to fixated on the shells to pay attention to the pea that has been slipped into the hand.

Politicians always try to direct ones attention to what they want you to focus on and not the real issue.

We need to be more observant of each move that is being made and each word spoken.
canam
2008-12-06 20:22:21 UTC
The birth certificate is just part of the issue. Theres the fact that he was an Indonesian citizen. Is he still an indonesian citizen? Where are his immigration records? Where are the court records of his name changes from Barack H. Obama to Barry Soetoro and back to Barack H. Obama? Does he in fact have legal records or did he just change his name at will? He was listed as an Indonesian citizen at school in that country. Did he ever apply for naturalized citizen status, or does he have a green card stating he is a permanent resident? The people of the USA have a right to the answers to these questions. The birth certificate dosnt matter at this point-what matters is the constitution.
christine m
2008-12-07 04:48:10 UTC
Suspicion could be laid to rest if the Birth Certificate would be produced for the Public to see.My thoughts are not so much he was born in Hawaii but that he is illegitimate.Only his mother would know who the father is and where he was born.Women have been know to lie about such matters. Maybe he does not know himself. Surely there are mothers that had babies the same time and the same hospital maybe one could come forward if they exist.It was rare to have a mixed race child at that time so some mom or visiting parent or nurse or doctor would recall.People like to brag about knowing someone who becomes famous. like they were there when.The F.B.I. and C.I.A. are supposed to check these things out.Mr. Obama owes the public and the people who supported him proof of his B.C. what is the problem.He had to show it to get his drivers license.To get his Social Security number. Unless it is a fake document to begin with.We need proof ,so produce the proof and get it over with.Forget the F.B.I. and get the National Enquier reporters on it.
Sandylynn
2008-12-06 21:54:23 UTC
Yes, I do believe that all the stuff going on right now is all a major distraction from what's important. And that's our family. Anyone out there read the book The Illuminati by Larry Burkette? If you haven't, go to your local library and check it out. Read it. Then you'll understand about what the distractions are all about. It all boils down to a major crisis, of which there are several right now. Not just what's going on in this country, but what's happening around the world. This birth certificate issue is just the tip of the iceberg. Whether or not he's a citizen is just another drop in the bucket of confusing things going on in the world. We need to pay attention to what's going on with our families...what they're teaching our kids...how certain groups are trying to wipe out our freedoms...and how the world would have us believe what's normal and should be embraced by everyone. We're entertaining ourselves to death, gluing ourselves to the newest show on the tube, and tuning out what's important to our family. And Christians have gotten way too lazy sitting in their comfy pews and listening to warm & fuzzy sermons that are meant to make them feel okay about their sins...after all, we're only human. So yeah, we're being distracted from what's important...and that's the white fields that are ready for harvest, with few workers to go out and gather it in. That's what's most important. <*)))><
no
2008-12-07 05:00:13 UTC
If that is all that we were commenting on then YES, but it isn't. The Birth Certificate is an important piece since they are hiding it, but you may have a good point as to their reasons for doing so. It is still a legitimate question, and if they present one, then the question will still be out there as to why it took this long for them to bring it forth... or even maybe manufacture it through a false document dealer. You know that with people like William Ayers and other terrorists working for them (or visa versa, THEY for Ayers) that document forgers wouldn't be out of contact with them.
Sasha
2008-12-06 21:05:16 UTC
Yep! I had to cool on the BC thing. He probably will get by with it. We know his father was not a US Born citizen. Hell, hope his mom was born in Kansas! Both parents must be a US Born Citizen for one to run for Pres. I don't believe he was born here. If he was then so be it. The Justices, our Government have been screwing us for years. And we let them! While we were out buying high end computers, TV'S and a bunch of niceties that we wanted. We used our Credit cards, most paid their monthly statements. We got homes that we got the fair way. We never went to Freddie or Fannie. My hubby works his *** off. And for what? Social Security will be gone soon. All the ones that lost their money with Wall Street. There is a bunch of crooks that need to be behind bars. But, I won't respect The Creature! He won't tell me what to do. He is a idiot. He can't even speak for himself. And then his freaky youtube video's. I despise him.. So, if he does get sworn in. I will support to oppose everything that lying a** fraud tries to do. He is going to Screw our Country royally!
ohbrother
2008-12-06 19:42:56 UTC
This is an Constitutional issue that is not going to go away. The sooner he answers the better. If he takes the oath and knows full well that he is not an natural born U.S. citizen he commits a Federal felony. Until he proves that he is a natural born U.S. citizen every thing he does as President can be challenged in court on the premise that he illegally took office. Every Bill he signs, every appointment he makes, every law he signs and every decision he makes could be nullified because he would be an illegitimate President.
2008-12-07 09:43:00 UTC
Ahhh,we're down 6, it's Brett Favre with the ball, 6 seconds left & a Hail Mary coming up....we're just hopin' for a TD.



If he lakes it we can celebrate, if not, well, it was just a prayer anyway.
Halsted
2008-12-06 19:33:51 UTC
The birth certificate issue has such far reaching constitutional ramifications that the problem cannot just go away. Providing the original is such a simple solution. Since Obama is spending the holidays in Oahu, he needs to take his limo to downtown Honolulu and pay the ten bucks for a copy and turn it over on the spot for examination. Problem solved. Only then can we get on with the pressing issues at hand.
bluelotussmellslikebananas
2008-12-06 21:41:51 UTC
I haven't been distracted, For me it's the last straw on what Obama is. A fake. To the highest degree.
*Hoagie Legend* Antonio Stein
2008-12-06 19:48:07 UTC
your blah blah blah relative egoism blah blah blah. They just wanted to SOUND intelligent! Anyway, you make a very good point to think about. I still believe it is important he cannot prove his birth in this country, but they could make hatever they want to discredit the accusations. That would have a domino effect on any other accusations.
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2008-12-06 20:46:25 UTC
Yes, there are other issues of more importance. It is what it is. I would of loved it if this was proven to be true before the election. We need to hope and pray that our country will remain safe. I think there was a big ooops, on the part of the CIA, FBI. It has never happened before in this country. I think they automatically assumed he was naturally born here. It would be a horrible embarrassment to our country and there would be such chaos of huge magnitude. It is for the country's sake to just let it be.
2016-10-25 06:46:55 UTC
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Bee Bee
2008-12-06 22:43:22 UTC
Not me really. as I have known from day one he is just another chicago crook. And I just want to see him get what's coming to him good or bad.
Shrink
2008-12-06 19:42:03 UTC
Distracted? No, but that does not make this illegitimate, either. Anyone who knows very much about Allan Keyes should know that he is a Constitutional expert. If someone of his caliber wasn't involved, it might be a different story.
Edg1
2008-12-06 19:34:07 UTC
Maybe some have. Not most of us though. we had better all keep our eyes open and pay attention and be ready to call, write or email our congressmen and other politicians at every opportunity.
hussyinterrupted
2008-12-06 19:32:20 UTC
Bill Ayers is getting tax payer money to speak at FSU!

http://gop4liberty.blogspot.com/2008/12/florida-and-us-taxpayers-footing-bill.html
☼Solar☼
2008-12-06 19:36:51 UTC
Any person(s), who has ever applied for a Security Clarence knows that they have to produce a birth certificate and go through an intense background check. Neighbors are investigated along with school mates, and teachers. Its not plausible for a Senator who works on committees in the Senate: Foreign Intelligence and not to be able to prove their citizenship. It is imperative to stop the court cases, as they are a waste of taxpayers money, particularly when our country is suffering economically.
2008-12-06 19:35:42 UTC
omg. after spending weeks defending the "birth certificate issue" because they basically do not know how to lose with any dignity, neo-cons will now accuse the democrats of "baiting" them with the object of their sick obsession.



you know you are really something. is there anything you cannot blame on other people?



btw, president elect obama will not "offer advice". he will govern. get used to it.



SWEETIE, THIS IS OPEN TO EVERYONE... WE WILL POST IF WE WANT TO. FIND IT HARD TO BE CONTRADICTED, HEH? AGAIN, GET USED TO IT.
Louis666KWu
2008-12-06 19:32:26 UTC
You oppose the man.. HHHeeeee hhheeeeee.... YOU oppose the man. He is the president-elect. You are random noise on YAHOO. Your relative unimportance is exceeded only by your unjustified egotism.
2008-12-06 19:43:02 UTC
Whatever. (_*_)


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