Why must I be subject to the Queen when she did nothing to earn her place?

Question

I'm not patriotic, I'm not really that proud of my heritage, I hate useless people who are only successful thanks to their parents and I don't believe in God, so naturally I hate the Queen and the pathetic monarchy system.

She did absolutely NOTHING to earn her place other than being born with so called "divine right" and the money that goes into the monarchy is just silly. The fact she even has a small place in politics makes me angry that people actually think this is a democracy.

What's worse is that she is also queen of so many other countries, so there aren't any other English-speaking countries I can move to without having a monarchy, being extremely right-wing or being fundamentally religious.

And no, I'm not a communist. It's a cool avatar.

Answer 1

the entire royal family cost each tax payer less than the price of a loaf of bread last year. Also I can place a fairly safe bet that the Queen paid more income tax on her private income than you did last year as well. Id rather my 62p went to her than someone who sits on their backside all day watching daytime TV the won't work don't work mob - the real leaches of the country.



At any rate I would much rather have Queen Elizabeth than President Blair any day of the week. It took us 10 yrs to get rid of teflon Tony and most of us DO NOT want him back



However, as others have said, if you don't like the political system we have here you are free to leave and live elsewhere. You don't even need a visa to go to any of the other EU countries. Although few have the NHS system etc.



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you quote the wealth of the Queen, well the majority of it is technicaly owned by the state (land, estates etc the art collection value is no longer counted) it only appears under the Queen's weath as she is head of state it is not her's personally and nor can it be sold due to laws on land trusts etc.. Her personal income is about 10% of her total.



£300,000 on which she becomes a higher rate tax payer so she pays more income tax than you or I do on our incomes. The top rate of income tax is shortly to be 50%



As for not working that is a major misconception. She remains our best unofficial ambasador, she has to read and grant royal assent to all bills going through parliamnent (and still has the power to tell the governemnt to 'shove it'), she has the roll of unofficial advisor to the PM, s/he does not have to take the Queen's advice but it is still given if asked for. She has to put up with the weekly visit from the PM (she deserves my 62p just for putting up with that) Then she carries out her roll as head of the Commonwealth in exemplory fasion as she has done for over 50 years.

Answer 2

You don't have to. There are plenty of other countries in which people speak English which do not have a Monarchy. America for instance.



Or you can move freely to any EU country without the need for a VISA. France, for instance, has no monarchy. Neither has Ireland and they speak English over there. English is used in most EU countries or you could get off your backside and learn their language. Nothing stopping you. You don't "have" to be subject to the Queen at all. If it upset you so much that you need to rant on Y/Answers about it, then leave. I wouldn't live in a country in which I felt so obviously unhappy as you do. Especially when there are plenty of other options. Hey you could even go to Somalia - no Government or Monarchy there!!!



I personally have more respect for the Queen than I do for any lying, self-serving politician.



The Queen and the Royals cost the average taxpayer 62p a year. they live mostly off their own wealth so would still live to the same standards whether they received Taxpayers' Money or not. A President would cost a lot more than the Queen as s/he would need to be totally supported from the public purse.



Oh and the Queen DOES work - she carries out the same job any "head of state" does - diplomatic visits etc. She receives less than a political head of state would as well.



I guess trying to reason with you is pointless, however.

Answer 3

What do you mean, "why must I"? No one is forcing you to live here - if you don't like it, leave. As a citizen of the UK you can just hop on a train and move to France.



You could move to the USA, they don't have a monarchy. Nor do you need to be a fundamentalist (either political or religious) to live there.



Also, how you can say 'the money that goes into the monarchy is just silly' is beyond me. The royal estates bring over £400million to the treasury each year, yet the Queen costs us much less than that - money that we would have to pay even if we didn't have a monarch, for an elected Head of State, and to upkeep places like Buckingham Palace - which are state owned properties. Also, don't say that she doesn't work. She is 84 and works all day every day for the benefit of this country. She works a hell of a lot harder, and longer, than the vast majority of people in this country - I doubt you will be working as much as the monarch does when you are 80.



As I said, if you don't like it, leave.

Answer 4

1. No money would be saved by having an elected head of state. Have you any idea what it costs in the US to keep and protect the president?

2. The queen has only an advise and warn role in British politics and little power, only under extreme circumstances

3. Other countries who recognise the queen as their head of state are free to change their own constitutions. Many commonwealth countries have done just that and now have presidents. The queen remains head of the commonwealth only by mutual consent of the members

4. The divine right of kings in this country died with Charles 1

5. The queen works extremely hard in reviewing all government papers as well as her other duties as head of state (and she is 84!), never has time off - the work follows her wherever she travels and is worth millions in revenue by way of tourism and business to the country because of her unique status as a constitutional monarch (look it up!)

6. Although the queen pays tax like everyone else, she has had no pay rise for 20 years and has to pay for her staff costs and many other things from the money voted by Parliament. Let's see you survive!

Answer 5

Only the uneducated think that England or any other country is a democracy. There ARE no Democracies. They don't exist because they don't work, any more than socialism or communism work. They don't work. In numbers larger than a small town, they fall apart.



That's why the United States of America has a Constitutional Representative Republic with Democratic Principles.



Works. We have a peaceful revolution every four years while other countries are often either killing each other, or dealing with huge corruption problems. We have problems, but we get to kick out the people who cause them every two years or four years.



Politics isn't magic. Hold them accountable, they do a pretty good job, overall.



United States of America citizens are just silly. They complain about the silliest things when the rest of the world has REAL problems. They are so pampered it's silly.

Answer 6

Since tabloids are such an important part of the economy and would be lost without the Royal Family it seems like a necessity to maintain their symbiotic existence. It's a small price to pay to be able to see the crazy antics the Royal Family gets up to. Some of us across the pond are envious. All we get are lame celebrities and corrupt politicians with an occasional yarn about Bigfoot and UFOs.

Answer 7

This isn't Rome. No one uses their army's respect to become Emperor of Britain. Obama has done nothing to earn his position as US President, the way an Emperor of Rome would, except his charming words. The Queen hasn't earnt her position either, but there is little difference between flattering your way to the top and being born there. If you criticise the Queen it's only fair to criticise someone who has done as little to earn theirs. Obama had served less than one term and went on to become President because he has charisma, not for his merit.

Answer 8

You stated "I'm not a communist" and then stated " I am all for welfare". That is the most oxymoronic statement I have ever heard! Che Guvera was not a "cool" communist by the way. You might want to try Mao Tse Tung or Stalin. Of course they were not too "cool" either.



Communist is communist says communist writes communist puts a "cool" communist avitar on YA.

Answer 9

Because we are subjects not citizens of a free country like America, as soon as religous fundementalism and monarchy's and other middle aged crap has gone then we will be a sane and free country like America.



Para what you are suggesting is marxism which means that all wealth is distributed equally among unskilled, skilled, lazy and hardworking people, do you really want that?

Answer 10

I find it funny that you're in support of the welfare system, but against the monarchy because they didn't earn their wealth.



I also find it funny that you have a Che Guevara avatar but you're not a Marxist. It's like a person who wears a motorcycle jacket but doesn't ride a motorcycle.

Answer 11

You're not a "subject of the crown" - that went into the bin when New Labour carried out their extremely quiet revolution and changed it to "British citizen" to comply with the EU requirement of all those within the EU being citizens, not subjects.



Don't believe me - check your passport under Nationality.

Answer 12

I am not a fan of the monarchy either but what solution is there?



You want the Queen to give up her wealth so that she is equal to you? Will you give up yours to be equal to a starving African?

Answer 13

Connor, We have much bigger fish to fry than to worry about a in name only Queen, barrack insane 0bama the puppet of The New Socialist Party is tearing the fabric of our Country apart thread by thread.

Answer 14

such a big problem...the queen really controls you...doesn't she.

did you read that the cost of the monarchy is approx. $2 a year per person

Answer 15

"I'm not patriotic, I'm not really that proud of my heritage"



Well, THAT explains the rest of your question and certainly provides context to your attitudes.



Oh, and according to the press you guys only pay 62p a year to cover the costs of the monarchy. That works out to less then $1 US. Do away with your government system and spend the 62p wisely.

Answer 16

God save the Queen. He doesn't exist and she doesn't need saving. Englands patron saint is some guy supposed to have slain a dragon. We live in a barmy world. Existence itself doesn't make any sense. How about we have an opt out clause when paying tax, those that want their 62p to support the queer old dean may do so, those that don't may either keep it or donate it to something they'd rather support.

Answer 17

Well quite clearly you have chosen too. If it really was that big an issue then you would have moved ages ago.

Answer 18

Curious that you transferred this question to the US! We made a call on this in 1776 and have never regretted it in the least!



Thanks for posting a question that liberals and conservatives can agree on!

Answer 19

Because you Brits are subjects, not citizens. Congratulations!

Answer 20

Then move....