Question:
Since the Gulf Coast oil spill is a private sector mishap, why are the Feds held responsible?
Show Me Your War Face
2010-05-04 14:31:22 UTC
If you take a quick look through Y!A, many cons are blaming Obama for the oil leak. Why? Well, it's not clear. But why are the "govt too big" conservatives trying to say that the feds aren't doing enough when it was a private sector company (BP) who are the culprits for this mess?

Seems funny to me.
Thirteen answers:
Elwood Blues
2010-05-04 14:32:50 UTC
The conservatives like small government except when they don't!



Bobby Jindal, fresh from chanting "drill baby drill," fresh from berating the democrats about "big government," is begging for federal aid for his state.



When people are stranded on their roofs and in a stadium for a week without food and water because they are surrounded by oil, then you can start making Katrina comparisons.



When hundreds of American bodies are floating face-down in the streets, then you can start making Katrina comparisons.



When the president tries to sweep it all under the rug with a remark like "Heckuva job, Brownie," then you can start making Katrina comparisons.



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I see the conservatives are trying to float several lies here.



(1) BP was not operating the drilling rig. A company headquartered in Houston Texas, Transocean, was contracted by BP to drill the wells. Though Transocean operates in many countries, their largest component in American. Furthermore, a process called "cementing," designed to prevent offshore blowouts, was performed by none other than Halliburon; see http://www.tnr.com/blog/william-galston/forget-offshore-drilling-until-we-get-some-answers



(2) There is nothing "foreign" about the drill site or the lease. BP obtained its lease from the US in 2008. See http://edition.cnn.com/2010/BUSINESS/05/04/us.gulf.oil.spill.main/index.html?hpt=Sbin



(3) The US response was immediate. The Coast Guard monitored the situation from day 1. See the timeline at http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/the_gulf_coast_bp_oil_spill_a_timeline_1.php



(4) @Peace through blinding misstatements: you claim Obama "personally DEMANDED that no rigs that DO comply be allowed in the Gulf." Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, so do you have any links or other form of evidence, or are you just making sh!t up?

You ought to read http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704423504575212031417936798.html about how US regulators in the Minerals Management Service wanted an acoustic trigger in 2000, but by 2003 said "acoustic systems are not recommended because they tend to be very costly."



(5) @Cookie Monster: you write: "Expecting our government to respond to a state of emergency issued by a state is not the same thing as big government." Oh yes it IS!

Unless you're going to weasel out completely on the definition of 'respond' then you are expecting the federal government to be the fixer of last recourse, no matter what problems a company, or state, or region gets itself into. That is the very definition of big government. You have just shown yourself to be a Closet LIberal! You are allowing the federal government to help separate people from the consequences of their choices if the choice seemed innocent at the time. Welcome to the liberal tent!!



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Cookie Monster
2010-05-04 16:17:56 UTC
Expecting our government to respond to a state of emergency issued by a state is not the same thing as big government. THe feds shoud not pay for it and they wont in the end, but the fact is, there is a state that is in grave danger from an outside force that they have not caused and they need immediate help and Obama seems to be taking his time on this.

Conservatives have always believed that the feds are responsible for national security and this would fall in that category.

Big government refers to the government infringing on the liberties of individuals and interfering in the free market. That has nothing to do with what is going on in LA and the comparison is not valid.



THe thing that makes me mad about Obama is that he is going to let that region (and this the whole country) suffer just to make a point about off shore drilling. His best tool for getting his agenda passed has always been through angering the population and pitting one group against another







@Elwood - You do not seem to have an understanding of what conservatives refer to as big government. When have you ever heard a conservative say that the federal government does not have the responsiblity to provide national defense to this country? NEVER!

That is because the constitution spells it out: The feds are to PROVIDE national defense and PROMOTE the general welfare. We disagree on what PROMOTING the general welfare is. Liberals tend to think it is about the federal government providing for the people and installing entitlement programs. Conservatives believe that promoting the general welfare is about making an environment where people are free to live the way the choose and prosper to the extent that they want to. It is also about making sure that every citizen in this country has equal opportunity.

It is the liberal view of "promoting the general welfare" that we object to and that we believe grows the government and violates the constitution. It infringes on our individual liberties and puts limits on the extent that we can prosper



And, Ellwood, no I do not think that the federal govt should help out as you say any company state or region that "gets themselves into trouble" as a last resort (or any resort)

In Louisiana for example, would you please tell me what that state did to "get themselves into trouble" whether it be the oil spill or Katrina? They are in danger from an outside force that is no making if their own. THere is a huge difference! Exactly what are these actions that the people of Loisiana or the state itself have done that they should suffer the consequences as you say? NOTHING!

btw I would never think the government should intervene when a company gets itself into trouble. WHen a state or region gets itself into trouble, I also do not believe the government should necessarily intervene.







@Moose - I dont believe for ONE MINUTE that Obama's REAL agenda was to start off shore drilling. It doesnt add up with anything he has said or done in all of his 48 years.
maxmom
2010-05-04 14:41:13 UTC
Great point, and one I have made in answers.



You cannot be for small govt, stay out of private business affairs, and want the govt to be in charge when things go wrong. It's nonsense.



That said, the govt has a responsibility to do everything they can to protect innocent lives and livelihood. It is in the best interest of the country.



Bush released regulations on off shore drilling. This accident and the problems with getting it stopped are partly a result of that.
2010-05-04 14:40:13 UTC
It must be George W Bush's fault becuz we know the democrats and their propganda mills stood on their heads to blame him for everything negative connected to oil and high gas prices whle he was president.

Actually, the price of oil gets crazy everytime something bad happens like the oil rig disaster in the gulf or terrorists in Nigeria causing problems or unrest in the Middle East. Then the guys who make a fortune messing with gas prices feed the fire and make the price go up so they can soak us all for more money. It is how they stay rich.
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2016-12-07 07:13:52 UTC
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Pfo
2010-05-04 14:35:19 UTC
The Feds are the only entity capable of responding to the disaster. As to right-wing blame towards Obama, it's just retaliation for the ridicule of Bush over Katrina.
?
2010-05-04 14:40:05 UTC
Sure, this particular spill might have happened anyway, but REQUIRING the area to be drilled ONLY by foreign rigs that lack features the administration is now demanding be used* was PREDICTED to drastically escalate the probability of this kind of thing BEFORE Obama personally demanded that policy.



* The administration is now giving lip service to what a great idea it would be to require technology that ALL U.S. companies already use; a requirement we CANNOT make any foreign company fulfill, after Obama personally DEMANDED that no rigs that DO comply be allowed in the Gulf.



Seems funny to me.
Bert
2010-05-04 14:34:28 UTC
I believe there are certain things the federal government should be involved in....cleaning up the ocean that we share with other nations is one of them.



I'm more concerned with BP's involvement in the clean up.
2010-05-04 14:41:10 UTC
maybe because it effect the Gulf coast and the fact that the rig was being operated by a foreign company thanks to the fact that barry has outlawed American companies from dilling of our own shores while the UK, Cuba, China etc. drill without caring what damage they do
Person
2010-05-04 14:33:11 UTC
The govt has the resources to help, BP is still paying for it.
Dave M
2010-05-04 14:45:20 UTC
You make an excellent point - have you noticed about every thing seems to be Obama's fault according to the right.
Barry Marx
2010-05-04 14:34:22 UTC
Wheres FEMA? you do remember the constant whine from the liberal loons over Katrina?



Why did it take Obama a FULL 8 days to respond to a disaster?
Sidney
2010-05-04 14:54:52 UTC
Politics, not what is true or best for all of us, is the order of the day for the right-wing. I was expecting them to switch from drill baby drill to blame baby blame, and they have not disappointed me. They wait for opportunities to claim that President Obama is just as bad as Bush. It just doesn't matter to them that their arguments are contradictory, unsupported by facts or sources, and make no sense.



ABC News reports that:

"BP, the company that owned the Louisiana oil rig that exploded last week, spent years battling federal regulators over how many layers of safeguards would be needed to prevent a deepwater well from this type of accident.



One area of immediate concern, industry experts said, was the lack of a remote system that would have allowed workers to clamp shut Deepwater Horizon's wellhead so it would not continue to gush oil. The rig is now spilling 210,000 gallons of oil a day into the Gulf of Mexico.



In a letter sent last year to the Department of the Interior, BP objected to what it called "extensive, prescriptive regulations" proposed in new rules to toughen safety standards. "We believe industry's current safety and environmental statistics demonstrate that the voluntary programs&continue to be very successful."



That was one in a series of clashes between the industry and federal regulators that began during the Clinton administration. In 2000, the federal agency that oversaw oil rig safety issued a safety alert that called added layers of backup "an essential component of a deepwater drilling system." The agency said operators were expected to have multiple layers of protection to prevent a spill.



But according to aides to Sen. Bill Nelson, a Florida Democrat who has followed offshore drilling issues for years, the industry aggressively lobbied against an additional layer of protection known as an "acoustic system," saying it was too costly. In a March 2003 report, the agency reversed course, and said that layer of protection was no longer needed.



"There was a big debate under the Bush administration whether or not to require additional oil drilling safeguards but [federal regulators] decided not to require any additional mandatory safeguards, believing the industry would be motivated to do it themselves," Carl Pope, Chairman of the Sierra Club told ABC News."



"The response to the BP Oil Spill began as an emergency search and rescue mission conducted and supported by the U.S. Coast Guard, the Navy and other partners on April 20. 126 people were on the rig when the incident occurred. 11 remain unaccounted for; 17 were injured, 3 of them critically.

The President immediately began actively monitoring the incident, and held a meeting in the Oval Office on April 22 with senior officials to discuss the situation and ongoing response. The President has been in contact with all the governors of the states that may be affected and ordered that the administration use every single available resource at our disposal.

Concurrently, command center operations were stood up immediately in the Gulf Coast to begin also addressing the environmental impact of the incident and coordinate with all state and local governments.

The morning after the explosion, Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar deployed Deputy Secretary David J. Hayes down to the gulf to assist with coordination and response to the incident.

When the drill unit sank, the Administration immediately and intensely investigated by remotely operated vehicles the entire 5,000 feet of pipe that’s on the floor of the ocean. In that process three leaks were identified, the most recent coming on the evening of April 28.

The Administration immediately began holding regular calls with BP leadership and numerous senior-level meetings have been held between the administration and BP to discuss BP's response effort and federal oversight and support.

The National Response Team (NRT), an organization of 16 federal departments and agencies responsible for coordinating emergency preparedness and response to oil and hazardous substance pollution incidents was quickly activated and a coordinated group of federal partners-including the United States Coast Guard, Departments of Homeland Security, Commerce, Interior and the Environmental Protection Agency-immediately began directing and overseeing BP's response.

The President dispatched Secretary Napolitano, Secretary Salazar, EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson, Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change Policy Carol Browner and NOAA Administrator Jane Lubchenco to the Gulf Coast to ensure all is being done to respond to this oil spill.

EPA posted on its dedicated response website the first air monitoring data it has collected in the area—with no red flags at this time.

President Obama visited the Gulf Coast to inspect response operations firsthand, underscoring the administration’s all-hands-on-deck response to protect the coastline of the Gulf states. He was accompanied by Assistant to the President for Homeland Security John Brennan and Assistant to the President for Energy and Climate Change Policy Carol Browner.

NOAA is restricting fishing for a minimum of ten days in federal waters most affected by the BP oil spill, largely between Louisiana state waters at the mouth of the Mississippi River to waters off Florida’s Pensacola Bay. The closure is effective immediately. This order balances economic and health concerns and only closes those areas affected by oil. Details can be found here.

More information about what types of damages are eligible for compensation under the Oil Pollution Act as well as guidance on procedures to seek that compensation can be found here.

Secretaries Janet Napolitano and Ken Salazar spoke by conference call to Governors Haley Barbour (MS), Bob Riley (AL), Rick Perry (TX), Charlie Crist (FL) and the Deputy Chief of Staff to Gov. Bobby Jindal (LA). Gov. Jindal was with President Obama. They briefed the Governors on the ongoing response to the BP oil spill in the gulf. They spoke specifically about efforts to stop the oil leaks and mitigating the oil's impact on the shorelines of their states. Additionally, they spoke about ways to enhance what has been strong cooperation between the federal government and the states. The Secretaries and Governors agreed to speak again on May 4.

The President has dispatched the secretaries of Commerce, Interior and Homeland Security, as well as the NOAA Administrator, to return to the Gulf Coast this week. Specific details on their travel will come from their departments and agencies, but collectively they will be inspecting the ongoing, coordinated response efforts, the impact of the spill on wildlife and the environment, and meeting with business owners to discuss potential economic impacts of this spill across the Gulf Coast region.

Secretary Salazar, Secretary Napolitano, EPA Administrator Jackson and other members of the Obama administration today met with BP CEO Tony Hayward and BP America Chairman and President Lamar McKay at the Department of the Interior to discuss ongoing, coordinated response efforts and receive an update on BP’s mitigation plans for potentially impacted Gulf Coast states. This is the most recent in a series of meetings that have taken place between administration leadership and BP leadership.

Response crews continue to test a new technique to break up the oil before it reaches the surface—a remotely operated underwater vehicle dispensing sub-surface dispersant at a rate of nine gallons per minute—with encouraging results so far. Nearly 3,000 gallons of subsea dispersants were applied, and BP and NOAA continue to evaluate these tests to determine the feasibility of continued use of subsea dispersants.

More than 2,000 volunteers have been trained to assist in the response effort to date. Volunteer recruitment efforts include outreach to local fishermen with boats, which can be used as vessels of opportunity to assist contractors in deploying boom.

Assistant Secretary of Labor for Occupational Safety and Health Dr. David Michaels visited Louisiana with a team of experienced hazardous materials professionals leading an effort to ensure that oil spill cleanup workers receive necessary protections from the hazards of this work. OSHA is consulting with BP, as well as federal agency partners, to ensure that workers receive appropriate training and protective equipment. "


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