Question:
Now that Mann's Hockey Stick graph data is "missing", does it matter that the graph was FAKED?
anonymous
2010-02-15 10:53:24 UTC
Ross McKitrick and Steve McIntyre ("M&M" in Manns "Climategate" emails) proved that Michael Mann's IPCC-featured and Algore-promoted "Hockey Stick Graph" (HSG) was FAKED. Consider:

The HSG was NEVER peer reviewed http://climatechange.thinkaboutit.eu/think2/post/hockeystick_it_was_never_peer-reviewed/

After months of denying them his data, Mann's "work" finally showed that ANY set of data input to his equations resulted in a hockey stick graph... how convenient...

The results were verified by Dr. Edward Wegman and an adhoc comittee of scientists for the House Commerce Committee.
http://republicans.energycommerce.house.gov/108/home/07142006_Wegman_Report.pdf

Why did Mann chicken out of a discussion of his graph with critics?
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/12/21/video-mcintyre-mckittrick-on-fox-news-global-warming-special-mann-chickens-out/

McKitrick's Peer Reviewed Report destroying the hockey stick
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/McKitrick-hockeystick.pdf

His presentation in pdf
"...these supposedly “independent” studies are nothing of the sort, but rely on the re-cycling of a very small number of stereotyped series to achieve the Hockey Stick effect."
http://climateaudit.files.wordpress.com/2005/09/ohioshort.pdf

Presentation to Australia Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation group
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/APEC-hockey.pdf

McKitrick's publications page
http://www.uoguelph.ca/~rmckitri/research/papers.html

NOW, Phil Jones reports that the data is "missing".... Is that sorta like Hillary's Rose Law Firm records just "appearing" magically in the WH? Or the FBI files on "enemies" that just "showed up" at the Clinton WH
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1250872/Climategate-U-turn-Astonishment-scientist-centre-global-warming-email-row-admits-data-organised.html
Four answers:
bwlobo
2010-02-15 13:04:29 UTC
The liberal eco-religion will have to go through the grieving stages, at the loss of their try at world power domination:

denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and acceptance



They were in denial up until about a month ago, & I do believe they are entering their anger stage. They rant and rave about the little minute details that normal people tend to see as belonging to the hoax of global warming.



Next, they will bargain with sane people. You will hear things like, "Yeah, but we still have to use other kinds of fuel. Fossil fuels are running out... (another hoax). I wonder if bargaining and blaming are on the same level. They will blame us for every woe they can try to adhere to normal thinking people.



They will be depressed by the time the elections roll around. That is good news for sane people. Eco-religious nuts may think there is no more hope, so they won't bother to vote. Their enthusiasm will be paralyzed by their depression.



By the time they evolve into acceptance, the world power-grabbers will be on to some other nutty hoax. With the attention spans of Americans being so short, we won't remember the whole global warming scare, so they'll try to force some other brand of global power tax.
leigland
2016-11-09 09:54:27 UTC
You communicate as though Phil Jones and Michael Mann are the only scientists who've presented info of worldwide climate replace. they're basically 2 in 1000's of scientists. additionally, Phil Jones voluntarily stepped down. He wasn't bumped off, and that's possibly he would be reinstated as quickly as the learn clears him of any incorrect doing.
anonymous
2010-02-15 11:56:02 UTC
Can't let those pseky little things like " FACTS " get in the way of reality can we ??
anonymous
2010-02-15 11:41:25 UTC
Apparently to the extremist left it does not matter


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