Uh Oh, Fox is kicking in the dis-info, 68% of troops surveyed said they preferred McCain ?

Question

that clearly flies in the face of this report >http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-08-14-military-donations_N.htm
or this one >http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2008/cyb20080408.asp#1
funny that I could only Find Right wing blogs ripping this ABC report from April but the transcript is there, and they can say anything they like... these troops were all about "Change"...

Contrary to donations, and the troops themselves, Fox has now found that 68% of troops would rather stay in Iraq forever, um I mean support McCain...

should we believe anything Karl Roves new Home has to say ?
I mean not that I'm doubting News Corp. .. but let's face it. they're pretty sketchy..
agree/disagree ?

Answer 1

Subvertor! My main man! You been watching that ridiculous excuse for a news station? Say it ain't so Subvert, say it aint so!



HAW HAW



OBAMA 08!!!

Answer 2

Seeing as I clearly know nothing, being in the Army. I guess my opinion means about as much as Fox News to most liberals.



Some things to consider about your Fox reference. The Military Times conducted the poll as others have said and to add on ANYONE is allowed to vote in the poll. You don't have to be military to vote in their polls. I can tell you first hand that the polls they conduct saysthat the poll is not specificially military.





Statistically speaking 83% of the military is conservative and it is hard for you to believe that 63% of the military is going to support Sen. McCain?



I can personally tell you in my own unit, and on the base that I drive on (local base I am now in the Reserves) there is not a single Sen. Obama supporter. I have seen an overwhemling number of Sen. McCain window stickers, lawn signs, and talk.



I guess it was very overlooked when this "right wing hit man" aka Fox News hired a liberal commentator a few months ago. A hiring that caused the liberal media to go off on this person. Yup, they are never fair and balanced though.



In your first story it has nothing to do with numbers supporting candidates. It just means that the few supporting Sen. Obama have had open wallets. You can have 10 people give $25 each and 40 people give $5 each. You end up with the minority having $250 contributed and the majority $200. See how fast that figure can be thrown out of wack with real support? We already know from MANY reports that Sen. Obama supporters have given more when they contribute and are giving in higher percentages so this has to be assumed in the military as well. This is why I had 58% of the Sen. Obama supporters giving and giving $25 while Sen. McCain supporters giving 48% of the time and only giving $5. (numbers were taken off of the traditional 83% conservative and 17% liberal).



As for your second report, one from the PRIMARIES, is outdated. Two things make it outdated: 1) the primaries are over and the candidates have changed 2) the people were coerced. I can tell you straight up that the media has ZERO interest in hearing from the conservative voice of the military and I know that first hand from a 70 email campaign I did after a deployment in which I proved the media is biased. They also chose to only play a soundbite on one Sen. McCain supporter, it just so happened to be something only an idiot would say. Yes, that really shows unbiased reporting.





Face it, any opinion NOT in line with your view is just something that is a lie. MSNBC and such has the liberals well trained.

Answer 3

I have a lot of military people in my contacts. And ex-military people. To a man they are for Obama. One guy is really sad...he fought in Vietnam and lost a son in Iraq.



I thought I hated the Neocons until this man emailed me.



Why would it surprise anyone that the troops want out of this filthy war? Why would it surprise anyone that the families want their kids home whole??



They are the ones dying in this useless war. And they are there so they KNOw just how useless it is. They are the ones watching their friends get their heads blown off, or their legs or their guts.



The troops would have to have rocks in their heads to be overwhelmingly behind the man who said this war could last 100 years!!!



You think they want to be on the front line with their own GRAND KIDS???



Come on!! The cons must really think the working class are stupid this time. The families know how their soldier sons and daughters feel. How can they think anyone but the party drones will believe this sh***t?

Answer 4

The USA Today report was about political contributions. It reported on fewer than 2000 members of the military -hardly enough to say whom "the troops" support and completely unscientific.

They were split with many going to McCain, although the balance going to Obama could be a reflection of his concentration on low-dollar contributors, i.e. those who give as little as $1 or $5.



The second report is on Martha Radditz INTERVIEWING several servicemen whom SHE selected.

Give us a break!



The report on FOX is from Military Times, considered by non-partisan sources to be a non-partisan source for information about the troops.



Although Rove does have a contract as a commentator for FOX, so do Geraldine Ferarro and Howard Wolfson. There are many, many more established and intelligent Democrats on FOX than you will EVER find established and intelligent Republicans invited onto the other networks.

That is because FOX really does present BOTH sides of issues.

They are actually a pleasure to watch and you might actually LEARN something if you did.

Try opening your mind.



I watch NBC, MSNBC and then FOX each night.

It is astonishing what NBC and MSNBC just flat FAIL to tell their viewers.

Answer 5

The NY Post has it almost 80% of active military and their immediate families voting for McCain.

I suspect if we were to continue the research into all of the polls available on this issue, we could come up with quite a spread.

We must be careful not to confuse contributions with votes - I fell confident (from personal experience) that the vast majority of troops are trying to somehow balance their budgets and are just presently a little too busy to be be making contributions to either presidential candidate.

Answer 6

The Military Times agrees with Fox ... There were only 233 soldiers who donated money so that is hardly majority so your theory doesn't exactly hold up that donations prove anything. My husband is in a unit of 80 guys that went to Iraq ...of those guys all were voting for McCain but 10. Of those 10, 8 were for Obama , and 2 for Ron Paul. Sorry I have to agree with Fox and the Army Times. McCain '08

Answer 7

Disagree...for one thing Rove is not in charge of the McCain campaign and also, I realize it is difficult for you to accept that there are independent sources of Information that do not reinforce your slavish devotion to Obama and your choice to view all things through the 'Obama glasses' but we who live in reality must have our one source...FOX news which is FAIR and BALANCED....

Answer 8

Oh come on! There have already been too many reports of troops being interviewed by the liberal slanted media who voice their support for McCain. But only the troops who supported Obama made it on the evening news.

Answer 9

I agree--more or lesss.



However, the report (poll) may be accurate. You have to remember hat the military today is drastically different than 8 years ago.



First, once Americans realized that they'd been lied to about Iraq and the war was wrong, recruitment plummeted--and has stayed low. Most Americans simply will not volunteer to fight a war they feel is wrong. As a result, although there are still some enlisting for valid reasons, a large number of volunteers are from the extreme right-wing; some are even open about "wanting to kill Muslims."



Now, the military has had to lower standards to meet even the reduced recruiting quotas they've used for the past 4-5 years That has allowedd these right-wing types to enlist where formerly they would have been rejected.



Net result--while many o four troops are real soldiers, a large part of the military is now composed of religious bigots and extremists. So the FOX poll may be correct. But it doesn't reflect what mainstream America is thinking.

Answer 10

Fox reported a military news papers poll it was not Fox's poll...

always nosnod

Answer 11

Media Research Center is a far-left smear machine. The military is overwhelmingly conservative. Liberals just call them uneducated, backwards baby killers and rapists.



As for our troops staying in Iraq, why don't we pull them out of Europe where they've been for 60 years? Let your friends there defend themselves for a change.

Answer 12

Prefer McCain to whom? I sincerely doubt they were given Ron Paul as an option in the question.



Dr. Paul received more campaign contributions from military and veterans groups than any other candidate, and almost as much as all the other candidates combined.

Answer 13

Total amout given is greater for McCain, more individuals gave to

Obama,

Answer 14

i seriously dont believe that i live in a military town with an army and airforce base and NORAD and i know a lot of soldiers i dont know where they got that 68% because the stories my friends have brought back from Iraq arent something they want to go through again watching your friends die isnt cool

Answer 15

Well not every service member was polled.



The active army is 495,000 strong, and they did not even poll 50%.

Answer 16

Regardless, that's still a pathetic showing for a veteran. So does that mean 32% are voting on the issues, instead of just affinity?

Answer 17

the Military Times conducted the polls. Not Fox news.

Answer 18

I live in a military area and have yet to meet one Obama supporter. They don't like him nor do they trust him.

Answer 19

Military times said it, but considering their past articles they have seemed more like a right-wing blog over the past 10 years than anything.

But you are right, FOX cherry picks and gives people the story they want them to percieve, not the real honesty.

Answer 20

http://www.militarytimes.com/static/projects/pages/081003_ep_2pp.pdf



Fox didn't say it, Military times said it! Fox repeated it!

Answer 21

Would the far left shut up about FOX it is so old. We get it, you think they are biased. Now stop it already.

Answer 22

disagree