Is this a correct analysis of what will happen to the lib-dems very soon?

Question

The Liberal Democrats will "disappear into the annals of history" unless they pull out of the coalition, their leader in Liverpool has warned.

or will the British be more forgiving and give the lib-dems a reason to stay with the Tories by voting yes to the Av vote.

Answer 1

The British have the mental capacity of gold fish. once around the bowl and they will have forgotten all about it. They are too spineless to ever (((((RISK))))) life without the lib lab con. The Idea of that foul trio being kicked out of parliament is enough to start off an ear shattering crescendo of nervous thumb sucking and whimpering.

Answer 2

I don't think it's a correct analysis at all. I'll address each point:



"The Liberal Democrats will "disappear into the annals of history" unless they pull out of the coalition"



Utter Bull.



If they pull out of the coalition now, all they will prove is that they are unwilling (and therefore unfit) to govern when the economy is not doing well. There is nothing more certain to make a party disappear into the annals of history than refusing to govern when the opportunity arises.



The fact is (despite what many people are saying) is that the LibDems are having quite a lot of say in how the country is run. They ARE having to back policies that they opposed before the election - but that's being done in order that they can get policies of their own through that the tories were opposed to.



* Those on low incomes are benefitting from the income tax cut - an extra £200 per person might not sound like much to some, but for those of us on low incomes it's a much needed boost that would never have happened without the LibDems in government. The tories (and labour, for that matter) opposed raising the tax threshold. The tories have backed a LibDem policy they opposed.



* Local enterprise partnerships - another LibDem policy that's already benefitted many places - not least the regeneration of Redcar with the reopening of the steelworks. 6 months from now - the steelworks in Redcar will be producing high quality steel. 23 other similar projects have been funded throughout the country in the 1st wave of investment. The second wave of investment is just beginning. The tories would have made investment easier wherever it was most profitable (ie - investment concentrated in the South East) - whilst labour were always going to decide that at Westminster rather than give local communities control. A Lib Dem policy (opposed by the other 2 parties) is regenerating areas of the UK.



There's a lot more - but this site has a word limit. This link may be of use:

http://www.whatthehellhavethelibdemsdone.com/



"or will the British be more forgiving and give the lib-dems a reason to stay with the Tories by voting yes to the Av vote."



Whatever the result of the referendum, the LibDems will not implode over just one policy. Whether or not the coalition lasts does not depend upon the result of this referendum.



This is a choice between keeping the current system or moving to AV. Whatever your opinion of the LibDems - the chance to make MPs more accountable to the electorate is worth taking.

Answer 3

Clegg and the lib/dems have buried themselves in the Tory muck that is at the forefront of this coalition government. Most will take up full membership in the Tory party and wait for its downfall as well. All liars eventually begin to believe the untruths they tell and it will be the case here with the lib/dems and Tories as well.



Don't want all the cuts this lot are forcing on us. Try this. Stop all foreign aid, stop the useless and needless wars, get out of the EU completely, make all the politicians, large corporations and banks as well a their CEO's, the politicians who caused this recession start to experience it and pay its price. The recession would be gone in a year. In other words get rid of their greed and incompetence and the gambling with our lives and livelihoods and make them gamble with their own and it will all cease.



Get real people. Use your brains for a change. "WE" didn't cause this recession. Our political masters and the people who fund their political parties "DID". Let them pay for it and pay the price of their folly for once and it might not happen again. Stop work for a week and stop buying absolutely anything except bare essentials and you will see this shower of greedy, back stabbing, charlatans soon change their tune. It is also the quickest way to close the gap between the have's and the have nots. As far as the benefit fraudsters go or the work shy. That wouldn't last long once the country started to kick in again. There wouldn't be any place for them just as there wouldn't be for those who consider themselves our lords and masters now. At the least it would make each individual just that little bit more equal and a sense of justice just might come over the lot of us. Whining and Whinging won't do the trick. "WE" do have to stand up to these spivs at some date in the future so why not make it now?

Answer 4

No, they are a political party with vested interests. But it will do them even less good pulling out of the agreement they made, for it will compound their unreliability in the eyes of the voters. Tuition Fees should have been an uncrossable red line and income tax and corporation tax should have been raised to pay for it if the majority of the electorate actually wanted tuition fees to stay the same or be abolished Cameron should have said the Lib Dems made him raise taxes to pay for it. What else could you expect from a real coalition? You just cannot have your cake and eat it too.

Cameron cutting Defence Spending so ludicrously crossed another red line. Same as when Labour sold all the Gold and let the Rover car maker fail. When bad stuff happens on the Government's watch it is both the government and those who elected them who are to blame.



I can no longer vote for any of the main parties.

Answer 5

I think the problem is we are not used to hung Parliaments and coalitions.



The Liberals could not keep all their election pledges to be fair anymore than any minor party could have in the same position. They did not win a majority in the election so were the bit player at the big table. The best they were every going to get was some.



If it had been me I would have seen tuition fees as a deal breaker but they opted for AV as having the potential to bring about further electoral reform.



I think the impact of that has been a backlash of anger which may cause long term damage.



That said electoral reform in the long term may well create an oppertunity for greater variety of representation which in the long term could be beneficial to the nation

Answer 6

Clegg is a traitor to his party and to his former supporters and to the country as a whole. They will suffer crushing defeats and many will lose their deposits, if they decide to stand at all. The betrayal of the electorate who put them into power for the first time in decades can just as swiftly remove them altogether. The revenge that many will bestow upon the Lib Dem traitors will be severe and justified. Clegg will either be doomed to everlasting oblivion or will join the Tories full time and abandon his principles altogether, if he ever had any in the first place. Lib Dems have every reason to feel afraid of the May election results. I sincerely hope they will be trounced in every constituency.

Answer 7

They have abandoned most of their voters who have defected to Labour following the decision to get rid of the Cap on Tuition Fees. The Lib Dems were known as the 'Young People's Party' until they went into a coalition with the Tories and effectively left them behind. 5 Years in Power won't be worth the long term effects they will have to endure. Labour will win the next general election.

Answer 8

Nope, post 2013 quality of life will be on the way up and so will our opinion poll rating. Could find another coalition on the cards. Ed Milliband better be careful what he wishes for, he'll struggle in a coalition with Hughes at the helm :D

Answer 9

I am really surprised that people do still support the Lib Dems.



They have reneged on so many of their election promises - the things they said they would do to get people to vote for them.



I am disgusted at the Lib dems lack of integrity.



I would love to think that the public would give them the send-off into the annals of histroy, but sadly I think that may not happen.



i think the Lib Dems are finished in the medium term.



if it were down to me they would be finished now!

Answer 10

You are all really missing the point. The UK is spending more than it earns and rather nasty cuts will be necessary for the next twenty years. Its like having an unaffordable mortgage that one cannot get out of.



The next government will have to make cuts even deeper than the present one is even considering.



The lib dems are at least showing some backbone in acting properly now. They simply should not have promised daft things before the election. Labour are doing the same now ... promising what they know they cannot deliver. Its twenty years of cuts ... thats for sure... so get used to it..

Answer 11

I think so. When you explicitly promise to do something, and you won a lot of votes on the basis of that particular promise, and you went on youtube and made a video about how you were going to do that thing, and then you get into power and do the exact polar opposite of that thing... you tend to lose credibility.



(I'm talking about the promise to not put tuition fees up, in case that wasn't very obvious.)



I feel sorry for all the hard-working LibDem councillors up and down the country who do lots of good in their communities but will lose their seats because of what Clegg and his cronies have done to the party's popularity.

Answer 12

I know the lib Democrats in America are heading that way. So are the Lib Republicans.

Answer 13

Roll on.