Question:
Who suffered more because of the Iraq war? Innocent people or the "terrorists"?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Who suffered more because of the Iraq war? Innocent people or the "terrorists"?
25 answers:
MadLibs
2008-04-02 08:34:17 UTC
i'll go with the millions of innocent people.
anonymous
2008-04-02 08:53:01 UTC
Some thoughts/headlines for your consideration:



►New figures from the Iraqi government indicate that civilian casualties were 33 percent higher last month than in January.



The death toll, reported discreetly by American news outlets, contradicts claims of US leaders that the addition of 30,000 troops last year has quelled bloodshed. Indeed, the escalating violence underscores that the relatively lower official casualty rates of recent months have more complicated origins than the “more boots on the ground” explanation offered by the war’s planners....◄

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/mar2008/iraq-m06.shtml



Soldiers report British torture of Iraqi civilians

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2004/may2004/tort-m08.shtml



►During the six-week invasion phase, Shock and Awe, at least 7,400 civilians were killed. Since then annual death toll figures among civilians have risen markedly. There were 6,332 reported civilian deaths in the months following the invasion in year one, or 20 per day; 11,312 in year two, 55 per cent up on year one's daily rate; 14,910 in year three (32 per cent up on year two); and a staggering 26,540 in year four (78 per cent up on year three, and averaging 74 per day). Not counting the 7,400 invasion-phase deaths, four times as many people were killed in the last year as in the first.◄

http://www.counterpunch.org/clifford04202007.html



►The report says that US soldiers are now "demolishing buildings thought to be used by Iraqi attackers," and "imprisoning the relatives of suspected guerrillas, in hopes of pressing the insurgents to turn themselves in." ...◄

http://www.counterpunch.org/spinoza12092003.html



At Least 10,000 Civilians Gunned Down Since the End of the War

http://www.counterpunch.org/fisk09232003.html



It is beyond retaliation for 9/11, which I don't think it was -- but we don't have time to go into "the euro-dollar war" that began when Saddam made a deal with a French bank called BNP Paribas to trade oil for euros instead of dollars on Nov. 1, 2000. (Read "Baghdad moves to euro" if you really want to find out why this war on terror started.)
Pfo
2008-04-02 08:50:34 UTC
Innocent people. The terrorists are prepared to deal with us, the innocent people would rather we leave them alone. Innocents have suffered at the hands of the terrorists far worse than any other group.
gone
2008-04-02 08:43:20 UTC
It's always the innocent that suffer in these situations.
Bryan
2008-04-02 08:58:04 UTC
Innocent people always suffer more as a result of war. Soldiers and Terrorists place themselves in harm's way by their own freewill. However, civilians do not get to make these choices. Each death of an innocent is egregious without question and their suffering is what should be respected most in the final equation.
anonymous
2008-04-02 08:40:27 UTC
Well, considering that the overall body count of dead Iraqis since this thing began (in 1991, not 2003) is certainly approaching a million, I would have to venture a wild guess here and say that the vast majority of those people were probably NOT terrorists.



I mean, in the early '90s we were bombing factories that manufactured baby formula...that doesn't sound like fighting terror to me...
tangerine
2008-04-02 08:39:57 UTC
It's definitely the innocent people! How many innocent people have been arrested by American troops, falsely accused of being terrorists, and sent to Gitmo? How many innocent people have been abducted on the streets by insurgents, only to be found dead several days later? And how many men, women, and children have ended up maimed or dead as a result of this war? I think the answer is obvious!
Psycho Magnet
2008-04-02 08:40:50 UTC
When you cause anyone enough suffering they too will become a "terrorist" against you -- for their own salvation.



I think that lines been crossed by many already. We barely use the word terrorist anymore because there are very, very few "terrorists" in Iraq. It's insurgents, remember? Well wait.. what did they have to do with 9/11?



So I'd have to say innocent people. And to the fellow who mentioned the US soldiers suffering, they and their families belong in the category of innocent people too.
tartu2222
2008-04-02 08:35:26 UTC
Innocents.
Summer of Love Commando
2008-04-02 08:33:02 UTC
It is obvious that either Bush is a bad shot. Or the war is aimed at the Women and Children of Iraq.
anonymous
2008-04-02 10:24:54 UTC
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/10/10/AR2006101001442.html



This study prepared by reputable US and British scientists/doctors is but one of many studies that show it has been INNOCENT IRAQI MEN,WOMEN AND CHILDREN who have been slaughtered by and who un-questionably have suffered the most because of Bush's illegal atrocity in Iraq which is/was based upon a pack of filthy lies.



As is usual ,the replies are as interesting as the question.



First MARSHALL spews his opinion that terrorism in Iraq was dealt a blow by the US's crime against humanity in Iraq but the problem with MARSHALL'S opinion is it is based on GARBAGE AS THERE WERE NO BLOODY TERRORISTS IN IRAQ TO BEGIN WITH !!!!!!



Yes Saddam for sure slaughtered many including the gassing of the Kurds but these numbers fall enormously short of the US caused slaughter to date in Iraq.



As an aside,many experts agree that the largest number of Iraqis killed by Saddam were the Southern Iraqis who based on the urging of Bush SR to rebel against Saddam right after Desert Storm ,did rebel and were slaughtered by Saddam as they WAITED FOR BUSH TO FULFILL his promise to help them; help that never came and as a result the US WAS CULPABLE for all these Iraqi deaths as it was the US that on a promise of support urged these trusting Iraqis to rebel.



It is no wonder those in the region HATE the US.



Then we have the perfect arch-type of the morally,ethically,intellectually bankrupt "My Country Right o0r Wrong" American zealot called SUSAN.



First she rationalizes the US crime against humanity in the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis,by her offense inane claim that Saddam would have killed them anyways.This is the thinking of one sick mind!!!



Then she makes the incredibly ignorant claim that it has been Al Qaeda that has caused all the slaughter/damage in Iraq and that if it the US had not warred against Iraq ,Al Qaeda would have caused damage elsewhere.



Listen up .First ALL experts agree that most of the slaughter and damage done in Iraq has NOT BEEN BECAUSE OF ANY TERRORIST BUT BY THE SECULAR INSURGENTS : THE SHIA AND SUNNI MUSLIMS IN WHAT IN FACT IS A CIVIL WAR UNLEASHED BY THE US .The US was also warned before the war by experts that the likelihood of a civil war resulting from a US invasion was very high .



Secondly and as usual ignorant Americans seem to not know that the core raison d'etre and origin of AL QAEDA is centered on THE UNITED STATES and is rooted in Bin Laden's fanatic hatred of Americans and American troops on

Muslim Middle East soil.



In closing SUSAN informs us that we know here analysis is "spot on" .



FACTS AND THE HISTORICAL VERIFIABLE RECORD SHOWS CLEARLY THAT SUSAN'S ANALYSIS IS PURE UN-ADULTERATED GARBAGE.



Not to be out done in ignorance ,the poster SHEERAZ informs us that Iraq is a front on the war on terror.



Then trying to impress us with his intellectual prowess,SHEERAZ advises the Questioner that his question is invalid and this is right after he makes the amazing garbage claim that Iraq is a front on terrorism considering there were NO BLOODY TERRORISTS IN IRAQ TO BEGIN WITH !!!!!



Needless to say there is absolutely nothing that makes the question invalid accept in the minds of intellectually and morally crippled people.



Finally we have the most offensive morally bankrupt post of all by Mezmarel who claims those who have suffered the most are AMERICA'S FINEST .I guess the slaughter of over 600,000 INNOCENT IRAQI CIVILIAN including tens of thousands of children just are not ENOUGH to qualify for the WHO HAS SUFFERED THE MOST AWARD .



MEZMAREL needs to be forced to look at that video that shows a weeping Iraqi mother having to sweep up the body parts of her 4 year old child for proper burial



Never mind Mezmarel,the world knows Americans do not view the lives of others as of any importance and that is why the US Military coined a morally bankrupt phrase to describe the innocent civilians that the US killed in combat phrase and that phrase of course was COLATERAL DAMAGE so from now on we will call the victims of 9/11 nothing but COLATERAL DAMAGE .



HYPOCRITES ALL .
anonymous
2008-04-02 12:01:58 UTC
Is this a trick question. The innocent people suffered the most. The terrorists were more than willing to act out their hate.
anonymous
2016-10-01 11:36:18 UTC
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goo_head_83
2008-04-02 08:34:48 UTC
Innocent people. Terrorists can just rebuild and keep coming and coming after us. They really have no end to the supply or the will to fight. The poor civilians, however, have lost everything and as long as fighting continues they have no way to rebuild what they have lost.
Alan S
2008-04-02 08:36:26 UTC
the civilians by far. The Iraqi war was great for terrorists. It is a perfect recruiting banner, excellent training ground and confirms all their propaganda about the ugly Americans.
BeachBum
2008-04-03 16:09:20 UTC
Well I think the answer is obvious... it is now estimated over 1 million innocent Iraqi civilians have died as a direct result of USA occupation.
Afilado
2008-04-02 08:41:45 UTC
Since the advent of Aerial bombing, civilians have been the prime victims of warfare. It's about time that the people of the world unite to take the murderous weapons away from the megalomaniacs bent on killing all of us.
Pythagoras
2008-04-02 08:45:36 UTC
i would say that American soldiers have suffered the most. The "terrorists" and even the innocents have something to gain from the struggle. The American soldier has nothing to gain other than going home to safety and his family.



Not to sound like a cheap b@stard, but my vote for second would be the national deficit.
7
2008-04-02 08:34:40 UTC
My understanding is there is plenty of suffering to go around over there... no shortage in that department. But alas... much as we might want to fix that.... in the end its something they have to do for themselves.
anonymous
2008-04-02 08:40:46 UTC
Has there even been an official link to "Al-Qaida in Iraq"?
anonymous
2008-04-02 08:37:54 UTC
The terrorist. The people of Iraq were suffering before we went in, only there was no hope then. There is hope now for these people.
Mezmarelda
2008-04-02 08:39:11 UTC
America's finest children.
anonymous
2008-04-02 08:33:23 UTC
what kind of stupid question is this? man!! the terrorists deserve to suffer for thawpain they have caused on innocents!! the innocent people are the ones who have suffered! all extremists need a trip to hell to join the devil!!
Marshall
2008-04-02 08:34:03 UTC
Well considering the people dont have to live in fear anymore because saddam isnt there to poison/gas people.



I would say the terrorists were dealt a blow because they cant compare to the technology the usa has.
panthrchic
2008-04-02 08:32:05 UTC
here we go again.....


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