Question:
Is wiretapping OK now that Obama is doing it?
2009-04-14 15:38:31 UTC
* THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION HAS EMBRACED BUSH'S POSITION ON WARANTLESS WIRETAPPING, and goes one step further than the previous administration. In a motion to dismiss Jewel v. NSA, the Obama Administration's Department of Justice (DOJ) made two deeply troubling arguments.

First, they argued, exactly as the Bush Administration did
on countless occasions, that the state secrets privilege requires the court to dismiss the issue out of hand. They asserted that simply allowing the case to continue "would cause exceptionally grave harm to national security." As in the past, this is a blatant ploy to dismiss the litigation without allowing the courts to consider the evidence.

Second, the DOJ claimed that the U.S. Government is
completely immune from litigation for illegal spying
because the USA PATRIOT Act renders the U.S. immune from
suit under the two remaining key federal surveillance laws:
the Wiretap Act and the Stored Communications Act. This is
a radical assertion that is utterly unprecedented. No one
-- not the White House, not the Justice Department, not any member of Congress, and not the Bush Administration -- has ever interpreted the law this way.
24 answers:
2009-04-14 15:44:14 UTC
IF he only does it on terrorists...my thought is that he will abuse it because he is a thug.



Where is all the outrage from the left on this. Obama is EXPANDING this!!!
jtothee
2009-04-14 22:54:20 UTC
oh imagine that!!!!! It is never ok! if they want to tap get a warrant. could you imagine police coming in without a warrant that will be next a group of the potus' own special forces with no limitations all in the name of "i'll do whatever the heck i want" errr.... uh.... national security

when will people realize that both your beloved parties have the same agenda...Bigger Government. they get all the citizens to point fingers at the other party and bicker amongst ourselves when they both are oing the same things

both have had thier hand in ruining our economy by handing out money to big cooporations. when you are up to your nose in debt do you go out and get 15 more credit cards??? nooo.

both have been big fear mongers to captivate the general public and swoon us into letting them do whatever the heck they want

both have no intentions of withdrawing troops anytime soon....obama changed his song right to the same timetable bush had and then added on some time so they'd be there longer...

now the same wiretapping and even a step farther.....

repub or democrat lay that aside they are all stinking up the place!!!!!

we need to take back america!!!!
2009-04-14 22:45:54 UTC
Yep



Because now it will be used against the political opposition instead of the enemy.

They all love it now.

Hugo Chavez does the same thing.

Hillary even tried it once during her primary. She got caught because she was trying to knee cap Edwards and never followed up when he tanked. She left loose ends. She voted FOR the Patriot Act TWICE.
soviet wombat
2009-04-14 22:46:29 UTC
The government intruding into the private lives of its citizenry, without just cause or approval by a judge, is always WRONG.



So, stating the position of the US Constitution earned me a negative vote? Wow.
2009-04-14 22:46:35 UTC
No. It's not. This is the big disappointment so far in Obama.





I believe it has more to do with legal positions and not admitting too soon that it is illegal. If he did, then lawsuits galore will occur. They're putting off the inevitable when it gets to the Supreme Court.
2009-04-14 22:57:55 UTC
Obama is creating his own private files on those that are opposed to

him. He will make J.Edgar Hoover look like a joke. Eric Holder will

do his bidding, and The country will be forced into, Us aganist them.
Zinger
2009-04-14 22:44:25 UTC
How else is obama suppose to set up the Ministry of Love?



The Thought Police must know what we are thinking and saying, so we can be placed in the appropriate re-education camps for having thought crime against the great leader obama
Jen
2009-04-14 22:46:57 UTC
No. Most Obama supporters believe that illegally wiretapping innocent Americans was as unconstitutional now as it was under Bush/Cheney.
Jigi
2009-04-14 22:47:16 UTC
I read the articles that you provided links for. What you actually have here is lawyers who are defending their client from a law suit. It is a lawyers job to use every avenue he or she has open to him to defend that client. The lawyer will do this even if he does not personally agree with the argument he is presenting.



It is what lawyers do. Nothing more.
Vote Republicrat
2009-04-14 22:44:44 UTC
Of course it's ok for liberals now. Their man is in charge. It's the same concept as when no tea parties were going on (except for Ron Paul's) when Bush was expanding the government and doubling the deficit.
2009-04-14 22:46:15 UTC
No, it isn't alright regardless of who is doing it. This is one point which I strongly disagree with the president on. Leader worship is more of a conservative trait anyway, so I don't why you think liberals will suddenly think this invasion of privacy is suddenly ok.
2009-04-14 23:00:26 UTC
Obama is a hypocrite through and through
grantadvocacy
2009-04-14 22:53:40 UTC
obama supporters don't know what to think. they have been defending this guy to the T, and i'm wondering if they are embarrassed at how dimwitted they look defending this guy.
Near
2009-04-14 22:43:08 UTC
Against the 4th amendment.
2009-04-14 22:42:35 UTC
I bet 52% of voters would think so.



It's funny though, how much I've heard liberals bash Bush for breaking the Constitution with the Patriot Act....I'm sure there won't be any problem if Obama does anything unconstitutional though.
2009-04-14 22:44:09 UTC
I couldn't care less about wire tapping.



But I do have to say, all the people that opposed it when Bush did it, will say it's ok now that it's under Obamas administration.
Duchess X
2009-04-14 22:45:43 UTC
Nope.its a no-no
2009-04-14 22:44:47 UTC
Yes!!!!



Wiretapping is GREAT!!!!!!!



Torture is now GREAT!!!!!!!!



But........ Bear in mind that Obama is the MESSIAH!!!!!!!!!



All Good Little Democrats BOW DOWN.



Cool, eh?
NOBAMA
2009-04-14 22:43:33 UTC
Of course it is! Obama is the golden boy! He can do no wrong, didn't you know that?
NO BO!!
2009-04-14 22:45:03 UTC
More proof that he said what it took to get elected! LIAR! CHANGE ........ His mind maybe!
James P
2009-04-14 22:43:47 UTC
no wrong is wrong if it is happening without court approval
lolcat24
2009-04-14 22:42:36 UTC
Wire tapping is never ok.
Budda_wench
2009-04-14 22:44:32 UTC
aparently
Smug Liberal
2009-04-14 22:42:28 UTC
As long as it's used against subversive conservatives, yes.


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