Question:
Haven't Christians showed themselves to be incompetent by supporting George Bush?
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2007-07-22 08:28:15 UTC
Granted not all Christians support or voted for Bush. However, many voted for him and still support him. It's a well known fact that the one of the big reasons he got elected was because of their support. And it's also well known that Bush is a failure as a President.
So the question becomes : is this enough to conclude that America shouldn't listen to the Christian authorties when they start talking about who "God's candidate" is ?
26 answers:
john_stolworthy
2007-07-22 13:51:18 UTC
Unfortunately, you fail to draw a distinction between mainstream Christians and fundamentalists. Mainstream Christians view the separation of Church and State as tantamount ("render unto Caesar", if you will. Fundamentalists would prefer a theocracy to a democracy, where THEIR religious tenets are the basis of laws, ignoring all others as irrelevant.



But I digress...



To answer the question, no. It is only the weak minded without the ability to see past the pseudo-Christian facade who supported and still support Bush. Jesus was a peasant revolutionary who lived by example, and died for grace and compassion. He was the friend of sinners, of the undesirables, and of the outcasts. Jesus preached the way of nonviolence. He was quite explicit in his pacifism: “Love your enemy”, and “resist not evil”, he said. Jesus refused the temptation to destroy evil by force, preferring to destroy it by faith, and love.



Somehow I cannot imagine Jesus up in the cosmic bleachers as war plays out down here on earth casting his blessings on those who kill and destroy by choice.
plezurgui
2007-07-22 21:16:56 UTC
That is an interesting question. What is it that you feel Christians are incompetent to do? Think?

So, I suppose the people who believe that Fidel Castro, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, Robert Mugabe, Hugo Chavez, Michael Moore, Soros, Ted Kennedy, and many others too numerous to name here, are much more competent to think?

It was Democrats (the majority of which are NOT Christians) who nominated Al Gore in 2000 and John Kerry in 2004. I would say there was a huge failure to think about the nominations of either or both of these fools.

Al Gore failed Divinity School, dismissed his illegal activity by saying there was "No controlling legal authority", claimed his mother sang "Look for the Union Label" to him as a lullabye when he was a baby, even though it had not been written yet, claims to have invented the internet, and that he and Tipper were the model for "Love Story."

John Kerry got worse grades than George Bush, lied about throwing his medals away, lied about his fellow veterans, supported the communists in the defeat of our ally and was so stupid as to keep changing his positon on every issue that mattered to voters.

You call Christians incompetent? You are a severe case of the pot calling the kettle black.
2007-07-22 18:47:13 UTC
I like to know where it was said that Bush was "God's candidate"?



Just because I am unhappy with someone doesn't mean I think we should throw him out.



Before you get uppity about the idea Christians abondon Bush what about the great DNC tidal wave that was going to end the war and impeach Bush that didn't happen.



I would spend time figuring out how the DNC will hold the majority when their numbers are lower than Bush.

Bush doesn't have to be reelected but Congress does.
Jackie Oh!
2007-07-22 15:35:39 UTC
I think George W. Bush's presidency has created a backlash in the evangelical and christian constituency. I don't think you are going to see the pooling of resources the way that you did for Bush. First of all, though he maintained his Christian stance Bush did not make this group very happy with a number of his positions and secondly there is no clear Evangelical type candidate unless you consider Mike Huckabee, who is not going to make it as a first tier candidate.

I think in 2008 you will see Christians voting more about issues and less about the God factor. Regan was not a particularly religious man, he had faith and attended church but he was a little more humble about it.
2007-07-22 15:36:04 UTC
For all is shortcomings, at least he doesnt think it is ok to allow genocide to occur without stepping in and feels strongly about defending our nation- you can disagree with how he is doing it but cant legitimately argue that he is fighting for any other reason. Also what choice did/do "christians" have? They sure werent going to vote for Gore or Kerry. Sometimes it comes down to the lesser of two evils.
2007-07-22 21:04:26 UTC
I think the man to listen to on this subject is David Kuo.



Click on the link below to read about how Bush took the Christian Right for a joy ride to get their votes and then cut back on what he had promised.
2007-07-22 15:38:53 UTC
There are plenty of liberal christians with more than an ounce of rationality - but that doesn't excuse the evangelical right from being moonbats. Read some of the answers to this question and the responses from the questioner - these people are clearly saying they are above the law because of their belief in an invisible omnipotent being described in an ancient book. Scary;
2007-07-22 15:35:24 UTC
This post was entered by a person who mocks Christians and Christianity on a regular basis . Considering his position , it's no wonder that he chose to hypothesize that Christians should not be trusted . I'd give more credibility to the poster if he simply didn't believe in God , but chose to leave others to believe what they want without making a mockery of their beliefs .



Answer : No , Christians didn't show incompetence by supporting the President of the United States . In fact the Bible itself states that we are to pray that our leaders make the right decisions . And I do .

And no , it's not enough to conclude anything other than hope . Hope , a word absent from the minds of many especially when they're so hellbent on insulting Christians as a whole .



EDIT*** - The 'star' I gave you was not in agreement with your post , instead it was to draw attention to this type of mockery and for others to give their opinions on such .
justgoodfolk
2007-07-22 16:03:37 UTC
The American Christian right shows themselves to be incompetent every time they open their mouths.

Lots of the people following their rhetoric are well meaning misguided people.Even more reason to dislike the leaders.Those leaders have shown themselves to be hypocrites and purposely abuse the faith of not too well informed people for political gain not too different as how Osama abuses the Muslim faith of Millions to spread his message of violence.

Religion should stay out of politics as far as it is not limited to what drives candidates personally.Religion and politics are a dangerous mix
eric l
2007-07-22 15:32:09 UTC
What proof do you have that the majority of Christians voted for W. Don't forget to count the ones that did not vote.
45 auto
2007-07-22 15:33:54 UTC
Is a supporter of the amnesty bill to sell out the USA & citizens.God's candidate, The liberals & Dem's
2007-07-22 15:37:36 UTC
People should listen to authorities in Christianity, education, environment, economics, and many other areas.



THEN they take what they've heard, think for themselves & vote for who they think is best.
Brian
2007-07-22 15:32:45 UTC
Haven't Democrats shown themselves to be incompetent by nominating a horrible candidate (John Kerry) in an election that they should have easily won?
2007-07-22 15:32:50 UTC
I think they show it often and have for years. Christianity has been responsible for many wars and in my view if they are a religion of peace, then so is Islam, both are to peace as Bush is! All 3 play upon childish fears and emotions and none of the 3's devotes are smarter than a fifth grader
Slimsmom
2007-07-22 15:39:00 UTC
No, I would say misled is more accurate, just like the rest of the country.
justa
2007-07-22 15:35:55 UTC
Until God comes down with a Republican bumpersticker, I'll take my chances with a party that is interested in the welfare of its people, and not the party of big business and business men. I do think this is one time that we should be wary of anyone who claims to know what God wants when it just happens to coincide so neatly with what those in power want. The Bible has far more to say about caring for others and sacrificing and loving than it has to say about sex, concentration of sexual matters with the lack of responsibility to the poor has been a hallmark both of the current administration and those who minister to them
responder
2007-07-22 15:36:42 UTC
These are "well known" to you and your ilk. Nonsense to the rest of the us.
2007-07-22 15:37:24 UTC
your logic is illogical and narrow in it's perspective, basically a case of over simplification due to liberal lunacy.
somber
2007-07-22 15:31:40 UTC
The invasion of American Democratic institutions by fundamentalist, historically militant (as in crusades, witch hunts, inquisitions, and support of slavery) Christianity has significantly increased the stench coming from the already disturbing dark side of U.S. politics. It’s like a nightmarish replay of the Christian crusades—politics with a militant, convert-the-heathens dark side. Potent, cult-like group dynamics combine with unacknowledged and unseen shadow qualities to easily overwhelm the individual’s sense of right and wrong, often unleashing pure evil en masse.



As the political world and the media divided the U.S. into red and blue states, I found myself feeling uncomfortable even thinking about driving through one of those “red” states. I would imagine that every red-state person must be a card-carrying, right wing fundamentalist. From the other side of the mountain, those “blue” states are full of liberal, soft-on-terrorism, big government socialists. Both are examples of projecting our group’s shadow onto the “enemy.” And both views prevent us from “seeing” individual human beings. We see only that group, those people. With remarkable ease, we slide into a “programmed,” either-or, group-think: we’re the good guys, they’re the bad guys. The group mind set is pulling the levers, directing individual reasoning and logic. It’s like seeing everything through red or blue-tinted glasses that color all we see and think—we’ve been swallowed. The blind lead the blinded with ludicrous comments like this: “I think all foreigners should stop interfering in the internal affairs of Iraq,” Paul Wolfowitz declared, clearly not seeing his missionary, neoconservative dark side—the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq.



Fundamentalists use labels as weapons, dialogue-diverting smokescreens that reveal a lot about their own shadow. For example, they have demonized Liberal Democrats using phrases like “the Liberal elite,” repeated over and over, who they claim are part of some “vast liberal media conspiracy.” In fact, there is an actual conspiracy underway and it is the fundamentalist Christian cult’s shadowy, carefully planned, two-decade-long infiltration and gradual takeover of the Republican Party from the grassroots-up. “Elitism,” in reality, is at the core of the Bush administration’s dark side, especially their pretentious, religious and political elitism.
2007-07-22 20:24:36 UTC
Kinda grasping for straws aye...you liberals just cannot tolerate anyone with true heartfelt convictions, can you?...
2007-07-22 16:08:47 UTC
bush is not a failure ,

quit repeating the mantra of the neolibs
Glen B
2007-07-22 15:32:31 UTC
Blind leading the blind...and so many supporters misunderstand what an "eye for an eye" really means...kind of ironic!
2007-07-22 15:33:50 UTC
By all means. The religious right is made up of a bunch of hypocrits.
2007-07-22 15:31:52 UTC
no. Getting fooled by someone doesn't mean you are incompetent.
2007-07-22 15:32:29 UTC
why would you listen to those quacks anyways?
2007-07-22 15:30:39 UTC
You're right.


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