Question:
Do you support the BNP's policies on tackling Extremist Islam?
Rule-Britannia
2009-12-21 11:13:55 UTC
The BNP would withdraw from afghanistan- a pointless war that is radicalising thousands of young muslims.

The BNP would deploy units of the British army to patrol certain "ghetto" areas where there is known support for terrorists.A deterrant and an act of defiance-to show extremists there is no place to hide.

The BNP would remove all mosques suspected to have links to terrorists.Source:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article2402973.ece

The BNP would review the construction of any further mosques.

Any convicted terrorists would face immediate detention and deportation.Any convicted terrorist would lose their right to appeal deportation.

These are just some of the BNP's pro-active measures to stop the spread of radical Islam in Britain.

What do you think of our policies?
Do you have any recommendations for future policies?
27 answers:
anonymous
2009-12-21 13:21:35 UTC
Seems like the usual bnp ill conceived and unworkable rubbish.

I`m a bit confused about the item, The bnp would review the construction of any further mosques. Is this a planning thing, and would nick allow them to be built if all the windows were the correct size and all the fire doors conformed to BS5839-1 ?

Anyway it`s nice to see you back, and could i just remind you that since the election at Camp Hill you need to tweak the number of bnp councillors on your profile.



Edit. Omedion, Many thanks for that information. Glad to see you bnp boys have the fire door regulations covered, so it would seem that nicks problem with mosques is purely with the building regulations. That at least answers my query. At one point i feared he had an ulterior motive
tom
2009-12-22 06:19:48 UTC
The BNP have a policy on tackling Extremist Islam?



No they don't. They have a policy that all muslims are terrorists and need to be kicked out of the country. This is part of the policy that says that all "ethno-immigrants" ie, blacks and asians should be kicked out of the country. Targeting muslims is easy because the hate and fear that has been attached to their religion by a few extremists.



You want to withdraw from Afganistan because this is making terrorists, and then put the soldiers into muslim areas of the UK to make terrorists at home instead! That is the worst idea ever. Who in their right mind would go an cause more people to be terrorists, alienate the muslim population and cause tension between religions? Wait, the BNP, why? To cause racial tension and provoke violence against these people and make them want to leave.



Remove all mosques "suspected" to have links to terrorists. You mean, all mosques. ??? Because the BNP view is that a mosque is a place for muslims, all muslims are terrorists, therefore close them all down. WHich makes islam go underground, makes the people feel like they are being targeted and makes them want to fight for their religion, making them into terrorists. Hmm. Same theme here.



The BNP would "review", you mean STOP the construction of further mosques, we know the BNP does not support the building of any mosques, so why not say what they think, rather than hide it behind fancy political language? I thought the BNP wanted to be different to the other political parties.



Convicted terrorists would face immediate deportation, hmm, back to their country, where they would be freed for being martyers and then able to do what they like? Great idea. But the british govt already detains convicted terrorists, because to be convicted, they are in prison in the first place. This is getting embarrassing from the BNP.



These "pro-active measures" are only going to fuel hate, not stop the spread of radical islam in Britian. But then the BNP know this and want this!



Look around the world, Israel, Northern Ireland, Basque country, Chechenya, Rwanda and a whole host of other places, the BNP is taking the policies that caused the problems in the first place, not those that stop it from happening.
wakawaka
2009-12-21 13:50:31 UTC
"The BNP would withdraw from afghanistan- a pointless war that is radicalising thousands of young muslims."



Disagree, it is in our national interest and our moral duty to support the US.





"The BNP would deploy units of the British army to patrol certain "ghetto" areas where there is known support for terrorists.A deterrant and an act of defiance-to show extremists there is no place to hide."



Agree to a certain extent, this would radicalise far more Muslims than Afghanistan and civilian casualties would be high, if the BNP even cares about that.





"The BNP would remove all mosques suspected to have links to terrorists.Source:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment…"



Its more to do with those who preach at Mosques. It would be far better to ban those found to be preaching hatred and send them to jail for inciting racial hatred.





"The BNP would review the construction of any further mosques."



Pointless for reasons I mentioned above.





"Any convicted terrorists would face immediate detention and deportation. Any convicted terrorist would lose their right to appeal deportation."



Pretty much what we have at the moment except without all the hassle. But what if they were born and bred in Britain? Oh wait, you're the BNP...





"These are just some of the BNP's pro-active measures to stop the spread of radical Islam in Britain."



I'd like to hear the others.





Conclusion: even a broken clock is right twice a day and I don't think these policies should be thrown out the window simply because the BNP supports them. But as I think I made myself clear in this answer, I don't think these policies as they stand are realistic.
THE Answer
2009-12-21 11:59:19 UTC
Just to be clear it is not racist to discriminate against Islamic extremism. Islam is a religion, not a race. I do not agree with the BNP's policies but I would defend their right to express their views. Look at all the fuss when Griffin appeared on Question Time. The reason the BNP's numbers are increasing isn't because he was on question time but because the white working class feel marginalised with no pressure group to support them. I think there's one or more pressure or 'support group' for just about every minority ethnic group but nothing for the minority white working class who live in areas that have become increasingly 'foreign' or 'alien' to them either culturally or ethnically.
Tele873
2009-12-21 11:35:00 UTC
I may not agree with what you say, but unlike most people i will defend your right to say it. It may seem ironic, seen as you want Soldiers patrolling the streets, but in order to uphold the democracy we have, we should not attack you , but listen and debate. I suggest the same to other people who answer
Glenn
2009-12-21 16:28:41 UTC
ROFL!



NO.....why would any sensible person support a 'party' that will INCREASE the problem, and by pulling out, allow them 'training areas' to do so, and provoke them HERE, so's not to provoke them over there? A farce.



If that nonsense about withdrawing troops and having them pointlessly patrolling about HERE on our own streets REALLY IS some new 'policy' of the BNP, and not some pseudo-paramilitary thuggish fantasy of your own (as opposed to a pseudo-paramilitary thuggish fantasy of a large slice of the membership) it just shows how out of touch with reality, and utterly clueless the black-shirted Oxbridge Graduate really is........hmmm....didn't he study History and Law, or was it just one of the two? Either one should tell him this is bizarre. Utter political, logical, strategic and tactical naivety.
LabourRfinished
2009-12-21 13:01:24 UTC
Like many others , i can appreciate alot of their policies but not all!



People have been pushed too far in this country and now they are speaking out , people like mac the knife would just let the extremists come in and do whatever they wanted and then call you racist if you disagree!
The Patriot
2009-12-21 14:01:24 UTC
'The BNP would deploy units of the British army to patrol certain "ghetto" areas where there is known support for terrorists.A deterrant and an act of defiance-to show extremists there is no place to hide.' - Because that worked so well in Northern Ireland!



"Any convicted terrorists would face immediate detention and deportation.Any convicted terrorist would lose their right to appeal deportation." - and where would terrorists linked to the BNP be deported to?



The BNP, a party of racist terrorists who lie about the racist agenda they wish to impose on our great nation.
DeLite aka xXxCHExXx AJB ROCKS!!
2009-12-21 12:51:28 UTC
"The BNP would deploy units of the British army to patrol certain "ghetto" areas where there is known support for terrorists.A deterrant and an act of defiance-to show extremists there is no place to hide."



That wouldn't be a deterrent that would be a cause of radicalisation. Anyway the BNP aren't going to get into power so no worries there.
tony
2009-12-21 13:42:04 UTC
You have to ask your cousin Hitler what he think about your policies on Islam. I bet he will be please - I am not a Muslim I don't even like them but it is not right that people like you want to kill human being and use punishment only because they do not believe your god or no god or your way of life - What about to go after all those that have voted BNP? No ! Why not? Democracy! Human right ! Why for you yes and for "extremist Islam no? BNP is not Extremist?
Mac the Knife
2009-12-21 12:24:44 UTC
No. I don't believe we should withdraw from Afghanistan. I don't believe we should have the army on the streets of this country. As for removing the mosques that have "suspected" links to terrorism, I don't believe in that either. How can you enact a law on something you "suspect"? The next thing they'll be saying is we'll lock up anyone we "suspect" did a crime, therefore no proof required and lock up anyone they wish. There are extremes in all walks of life, the BNP being and example of an extreme political party, but I bet you wouldn't back a law that bans extreme political parties or locks up people for belonging or supporting one.



LabourRf, the laws in this country are that you are innocent until proven guilty. Being able to implement any policy against anyone, just because you suspect something, opens everyone to abuse.
anonymous
2009-12-21 11:42:12 UTC
Hello.



I would support a complete withdrawal from all countries in the Middle East.



All Mosques should be removed and demolished.



All Muslims should be deported.



All terrorists should be shot after conviction.



For the future, I would recommend the following:-



1.The right to vote whether or not to stay part of the European Union.

2.The right to end all immigration for the next 50 years unless such immigrants were bringing some material benefit to this country.

3.The right to encourage repatriation.

4.The right to use Gordon Brown's slogan "British jobs for British workers".



Big L 266
wensleydale
2009-12-21 11:47:53 UTC
Welcome back RB, you must be full of the christmas spirit, peace and goodwill to all men (regardless of colour of course??).



To answer your question (posed in ignorance as usual). At the moment we have a situation where radical muslims seperate themselves from the law abiding majority and go to a far off country where they stand out and can be killed with little or no threat to UK citizens.



The new plan according to the BNP is to pull soldiers out of Afghanistan where they are killing radicalised muslims put them on the streets of Britain where they can oppress a minority of people who are for the most part law abiding? Where it's harder to tell a radical from a moderate and where the full force of British Law applies. In one stroke you transfer the locus of combat from the mountains of Afghanistan to the streets of Birmingham, Bradford, Leicester and London. Where soldiers are forced to comply with much stricter rules than they would face in Afghanistan. I would ask "Are they stupid?" but we already know the answer to that.



So tell me, what skills can soldiers bring to the streets of the UK that the police can do. Section attacks, calling in airstrikes, artillery barrages, building bridges under fire? A far wiser man than me once said in any hostile civilian situation once you call the Army in then you have already lost. You do remember forty years of bloodshed with the IRA don't you. Over 4000 people died before both sides became sick of the bloodshed.



Bearing in mind that the police have consistently stopped every attack since the failed attack on the 14th of July. What justification do you have for calling in the Army? How many people have been killed by radical muslims since July the 7th?



Yet another BNP policy that is stupid beyond belief. A policy formed to appeal to the knuckle dragging minority. A policy formed to demonise and oppress a minority that forms less than 4% of UK population regardless of BNP exaggeration. A policy that encourages fear of the muslim population in the indigenous population. Honestly RB, I'm convinced that you are a left wing plant designed to discredit the BNP.
spoon91
2009-12-21 15:43:33 UTC
for the love of god aisha, people like you is exactly what drives people to the bnp. the majority of muslims completely and utterly oppose any form of violence - ask any normal muslim if they - in any way, shape or form - support the atrocious acts of 9/11 or 7/7. i can guarantee you that unless they're brainwashed and ignorant the answer will be no.





going back to the question, you're actually insane.
Omedion
2009-12-21 14:11:12 UTC
Yes, I think I can go along with those.



I think that when the time comes, and it will, we should refuse to help America and Israel wage war in Iran.



Edit:

Richard I

The British Standard covering fire doors is BS 8214
anonymous
2009-12-22 02:28:57 UTC
i support anyone who oppsoses extremism dosent mean ill be voting for you
anonymous
2009-12-21 17:50:17 UTC
F*** that. They ar racist dogs. I only agree that you pull out of Afganistan, apolagise and never return. No one wants your whitemans justice. I shoodnt hate Islam so much you dont understand it at all. Islam is the religion of peace, not terrorists. Its just a few bad eggs who ruin it.
MrLoaf
2009-12-21 11:28:15 UTC
I agree with some but not all of their policies.



however, I think Aiesha may be a terrorist sympathiser herself when she uses phrases like 'How are you going to stop US'.



If I had my way, anyone who speaks like you do would be the first to go.
mynamesdan
2009-12-22 05:10:20 UTC
you need a policy of thinking before you speak
Adam C
2009-12-21 11:35:35 UTC
That's one reason, but my main reason is why i vote BNP is because the political elite have hijacked Freedom and Democracy, and have censored it.



And made laws which talking about it is an arrestable offence, making new laws which freedom of speech can be classed as hate crime.



I suppose you've heard about Gordon Brown giving over a million pound to improve Muslim Schools, but what he never told you is that those schools are ran by Anjem Choudary.
humanrights campaigner
2009-12-21 14:02:09 UTC
i support anyone who takes action agaisnt the muslim terrorists if liberals dont join the fight then they support terrorism they will be judged accordingly by their peers and betters
Mr Sceptic
2009-12-21 12:25:35 UTC
BNP would allow Al Qaeda to organise in Afghanistan, as it's 'none of our business'.



BNP would put the Army on the streets to harass young non-whites.



BNP would destroy freedom of religious worship, and discriminate against British Muslims.



BNP would deport British citizens. Where to? That's not clear.



BNP would remove right of appeal in our courts.



As has been pointed out, these are just excuses to persecute your current scapegoats. If we ever trusted the racist morons of the BNP with power, anyone who opposed them would find themselves at the wrong end of your oppressive policies.



Thankfully, the vast majority of the British electorate can see through your lies and race-hate, and you will never be in a position of power.



My recommendation for future policies? Disband, grow up and accept that your brand of race-hate isn't wanted by the British people.
anonymous
2009-12-22 04:26:07 UTC
You are fascist. I lost relatives fighting fascism. Wherer would you Hitler loving bigots build your first concentration camp?
anonymous
2009-12-21 11:23:27 UTC
Support your views all the way on this but they will never materialise sadly because the BNP is a minority political party.
?
2009-12-21 11:25:16 UTC
No thanks.



"Do you have any recommendations for future policies?"



How about; The BNP apologises for the crackpot policies it has and just sods right off?
anonymous
2009-12-21 11:17:57 UTC
You policies stink. Do you realize a few years ago a Muslim Cleric in London said it will be easy to enact Sharia Law in England when we are ready. Why? Because the government has taken the guns away from all the citizens. How would they stop us? You have much bigger problems than you realize. England will be the next Muslim state. Number 58.
firewomen
2009-12-21 11:20:34 UTC
No your policy are racist.*


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