Question:
Why did the US and UK not accept the democratic process which in Gaze which resulted in a Hamas victory?
DeLite aka xXxCHExXx AJB ROCKS!!
2008-12-05 17:57:12 UTC
The US asks for election and when a party they don't like win and then they are not willing to accept the decision made by the elections they pushed for. Why are they mocking democracy?
Thirteen answers:
liquesence
2008-12-06 07:57:52 UTC
The US only likes/allows/recognizes the results of democratic elections when someone we like is elected. By like, that also generally means someone who will be a puppet for the US and its policy (and that policy is largely tied with Israel; the US and ISrael are joined at the hip). Simple as that, really. You're right about Gaza, and other nations in the Middle East (such as Iran), as well as Venzuela. It's really hypocritical. We want to "spread" democracy, but WE want to more-or-less choose who gets in power (like Maliki [sp] in Iraq), because in so choosing someone gets in power who will bend to US, and someone we can basically control to spread our agenda.



That's about it.



Also, in regards to Gaza, the people elected Hamas because the people are tired of getting collectively punished by Israel, and Hamas stands up to that (even though it results in the Palestinian people suffering even more). The amount of land the Palestinians have has shrunk considerably over the years. Israel bulldozes Palestinians houses, blockades them from receiving supplies and food, shoots at their farmers and their fisherman, will not allow them to leave in emergencies for hospitals, shells their towns, kidnaps/abducts and kills innocent people, and treats them like animals. And since the US backs Israel in almost everything (because of the $ Israel gives to the US lobby, and Israeli ownership of businesses in the US), and since Hamas stands up to Israel by fighting back, they are not recognized except as "terrorists."
Richard_SM
2008-12-06 01:48:06 UTC
Oh dear - you've had some poor answers to your important question.



The US, UK and Israel for a long time argued that the PLO party were the problem and prevented meaningful talks between Israel/Palestine.



It was the US who in 2002/3 put pressure on Palestine to have elections for a Prime Minister.



So Palestine agreed to hold elections. Hamas were told by US that they had to accept the outcome of the election. Initially Hamas were reluctant to take part, but they did eventually put up candidates. The elections were monitored independantly by US observers who reported the elections were one of the fairest and well organised they had ever witnessed.



Hamas won by a landslide. There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever they were the choice of the people. There is absolutely no doubt these were fair and properly conducted elections.



Countries like Japan and Sweden praised the election process and congratulated Hamas on winning so decisively.



US and US have been unable to bring themselves to accept the Hamas victory. They have run out of excuses. Palestine has done the the very thing US and UK used for a long time as the reason for the ongoing problem.



Former US President Jimmy Carter visited soon after and summarised the problem - that peace talks had stagnated,

"The problem is that Israel and the United States refuse to meet with someone who must be involved"



US and UK have no excuse. The people have chosen their leaders through fair democratic elections and those leaders should be recognised.



Since those elections nearly 3 years ago, Israel has imposed a blockade on Gaza - and the humanitarian crisis it has caused is coming to a head now with 1,500,000people trapped with little food or medical supplies getting through. (Israel has also frozen Palestines tax revenues)



And just to reply to the misinformed comments by some answers posted, Hamas also indicated that it was willing to recognise Israel’s existence and offered a ten year truce (I'll repeat that A TEN YEAR TRUCE) if Israel moved back to pre-1967 borders. Israel responded by starting a series military incursions - which of course triggered some return mortar fire into Israel.



Anyway - to answer your question: I don't know.
Yaqub H
2008-12-06 19:07:50 UTC
Absolutely correct



The U.S.A has be complaining that particularly Islamic countries need to do a western style democracy. And you are right, when Palestine as a whole had their general elections. The Hamas Party, which held a ceasefire 1 years running up to those elections was successfully elected by a huge margin.



Straight away the U.S.A and U.K, were plotting to remove them and they placed sanctions on a nation that was already occupied.



They didn't accept the results even though they were monitered by the U.N, because this new party had its own policy and Hamas believes in full Palestinian independence. That is a threat to the vile U.S as they see as anyone who wants independence as a terror nation.



They only proved that democracy doesn't work, as if you elect the wrong party (according to the West) you will be punished. The West only accepts a result if it is in their favour.



They did the same in 1973 in Chile, when the Chileans elected Salvador Allamendez (1st elected communist leader), the C.I.A was involved in supporting the oppressive General Pinochet to power. On September 11th 1973, U.S jets fired missiles at Chilean towns and killed a national total of 50,000 civilians on that single day. Later General Pinochet supported by the terror organisation of the C.I.A killed over 500,000 people and overthrew elected President Allamendez. It was the C.I.A at the end of 1973, that captured the President and shot him dead 45 times in the head.



That is what the C.I.A and the West does to those it does not want in power.



They have also overthrown many other elected leaders from all over the world, just because those general elections didn't go the way they wanted.



Pathetic
2008-12-05 19:11:29 UTC
Well the UK and US are all for democracy as long as it's a democracy that they choose rather than the people........which isn't really democratic is it. If Hamas and all other factions were to accept Israel and stop blowing people up, it would give less power to the Zionists.



Most of us in the West are appalled by the murder going on between Arabs and Israelis. Both sides are supposed to be on God's side and yet both sides have turned to evil for inspiration.



No side will reign over the world or over Jerusalem ever again. The city belongs to God and it's a shame the followers of evil who pretend to be believers can't accept that.



Every act of terrorism and war in the Holy land is an act against God.



The sooner Hamas and others leave behind their false beliefs about taking over the world by force and the destruction of Israel, the sooner the violent Zionists can be dealt with and the sooner Atheist America will butt out of The Holy Land.
2008-12-06 04:23:30 UTC
Israel are playing Fatah and Hamas against each other. They want to keep the west bank and gaza in a constant state of chaos, this way they can avoid peace talks. At one stage Israel said they would never talk to Fatah and the PLO as they were 'terrorists'.....they ended up talking to them.



Fatah lost the elections hamas won because Palestinians who were tired of corruption. Yasser Arafat had gold taps in his bathroom, and his cronies had the best houses whilst the majority starved and suffered.



Hamas won the elections democratically and then were are sidelined and undermined like you said. Hamas in the last few years said they would agree to accept a palestinian state within the 1967 borders and a long term truce with Israel-



http://es.truveo.com/Infolivetv-Headlines-Haniyeh-says-Hamas-would/id/3493339717



The US and the UK didn't accept the democratic process cause they didnt like the winners of the election as they were 'terrorists'.
bulan_sabriel
2008-12-06 04:56:26 UTC
Democracy entails responsibility. The Gazans voted for war by electing terrorists. We acknowledge the vote by condemning the Hamas regime.

Or do you think that just because there is a vote, the regime should be free from all international pressure?
dukefenton
2008-12-05 18:06:48 UTC
First of all, there's some question how 'democratic' the elections really were. Leaving that aside, Hamas is simply not acceptable as an international partner. Read their own founding documents; they exist *only* to commit genocide in Israel. The Nazi party was also elected into power by a democratic process; by your logic, we should have simply accepted their views and actions on that basis.
2008-12-05 18:46:59 UTC
You take my money you do I want I tell you to do or don't ask for help
Truth
2008-12-05 18:05:14 UTC
Can we say criminal terrorist organization fixing an election through violence so that they can continue their crimes against humanity?

Can we say that Palestine gets more foreign aid per man woman and child than any other place in the world?

maybe because some people find it outrageous that the us and uk don’t accept it so they wont give hard earned taxpayers money to them in a package of "foreign aid" so that they can use the money or spare resources to build bombs to blow the arms and legs off little civilian children in the name of martyrdom.
2008-12-05 18:10:55 UTC
why are you an ignorant puppet head who believes everything the state-run BBC tells you? Get a life, you washed up marxist
Wolfie
2008-12-05 18:03:45 UTC
Because, as far as they were concerned, the wrong side won. So much for exporting democracy!
2008-12-05 18:05:59 UTC
Because they're a bunch of cry babies. They always whine when things don't go their way.
Peter B
2008-12-05 18:02:52 UTC
Hamas simply has to recognise Israel's right to exist and it will all be good..


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