Question:
When one states that the Bush admin lied to invade Iraq, why do neo-cons assume it is about WMDs?
Chi Guy
2007-10-07 20:17:39 UTC
Versus:

Yellowcake purchase attempts
Aluminium tubes for uranium enrichment
Mobile chem labs
And being involved with 9/11

The Bush admin DID LIE about all of the above and only their inner circle and the CIA had proof that they were lying.
Twenty answers:
johnfarber2000
2007-10-10 21:07:30 UTC
Any faith that these republicans will deal with the facts impartially is misplaced.

Before the war in Iraq, the Bush administration had a full blown propaganda campaign to sell the war to the American people. For several months, day after day, they have the drums of war beating. The campaign was intense, diverse, and professional. GWG and his people lied constantly and even poor Colin Powell participated in it.

They are trying to do the same in the case against Iran.

The American press was an accomplice in this crime by being to willing to participate in the propaganda.
anonymous
2007-10-07 20:27:47 UTC
Bush did lie about being a fiscal conservative.

His administration is one of the most veto free in history. Every spending bill the Democrats or the Republicans sent got signed. Spending is nuts.

He put nearly $300 Bn into social welfare in his first three years which is more than the entire Johnson Administration adjusted for inflation.

How come no one talks about that lie??????? Are the Democrats OK with that one?

Another $110 Bn to Katrina relief and they can't figure out what the hell to do with it all in the gulf. Why don't we hear about what happened to all the unused money? Democrats OK with that lie too?

How come we never hear about how he released frozen North Korean assets against the wishes of the treasury department who were investigating counterfieting, as a gesture of good will? Are the Democrats OK with that one too?
anonymous
2007-10-07 20:32:00 UTC
Bush did what he was elected do to: remove Saddam



The US Congress authorized the Iraq liberation, the President merely enacted the will of the American people.



We were clamoring for Saddam's ouster long before Bush was elected or WMD was discussed
hironymus
2007-10-07 20:26:56 UTC
The Bush admin. made the bad mistake of listening to Clinton ,Gore, Kerry, Kennedy and Hillary. all of them swore up down and sideways that Saddam had WMDs and should be dealt with , whatever it took. But that bunch, being Dems. only told the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth.
commanderbuck383
2007-10-07 20:26:13 UTC
And the tooth fairy left you a centrifuge under your pillow....



More anti American drivel from a terrorist sympathizer.



You like Iraq and Saddam so much? Leave the USA and join the terrorists where you can put your jihad where your mouth is. Then we can have a fair shot at re educating you...permanently !
fortwynt
2007-10-07 20:23:06 UTC
The point is, 9/11 was blamed on arabs, and the war was started in Afghanistan (shouldn't have been)...when the world started getting bored and forgetting about the whole thing (since osama was obviously not gonna get caught), they had to do something that would garner public support again...so they tied iraq to 9/11 and drummed up paranoia, then BAM public support for the invasion...
?
2016-10-06 11:11:22 UTC
i believe this question desires to be asked many times and as quickly as extra. people could remember and learn from this travesty that some politicians think of we are so stupid that we are going to believe what they say. only like Bush I stated "examine my lips". We could scrutinize all this is asserted to us and get those out of workplace that overtly devoid of remorseful approximately misinform us. regrettably, i think of in his zeal to be seen a reliable and honest Pres dent, Obama says it somewhat is superb to circulate forward. I agree, yet my thought to circulate forward is to prosecute.
anonymous
2007-10-07 20:22:28 UTC
The yellowcake purchase was an attempt, not a completed sale.



The aluminum tubes purchase was an attempt, not a completed sale



Mobile chem labs, no idea where they went, but they were never found.



Being involved with 9/11, Bush never said Iraq was involved with 9/11. He said that Iraq had terrorist training camps in it, which they did.
anonymous
2007-10-07 20:22:39 UTC
But but but the libs say it's about oil Will you please make up your minds





Nice link Try this one on for size



"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities. I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein. ... Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein. Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons."



Congresswoman Nancy Pelosi (Democrat, California)

Addressing the US Senate

October 10, 2002

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/

cgi-bin/getpage.cgi?position=all&page=H7777&dbname=2002_record
PARVFAN
2007-10-07 20:26:27 UTC
We assume nothing and WMDs where not why we went into Iraq. Peace
anonymous
2007-10-07 20:21:31 UTC
Really? And where is this "proof" from the CIA that exists? And how is it that not one congress person was able to figure out any of these lies, but libs on Y!A seem to have a lock on it?
Wilkow Conservative
2007-10-07 20:54:21 UTC
I never heard anything about aluminum tubes or chem labs and can't find those things on my list of reasons Bush gave for going to war in Iraq, as far as the other 2 items you list read the following:



What of the related charge that it was still another “lie” to suggest, as Bush and his people did, that a connection could be traced between Saddam Hussein and the al-Qaeda terrorists who had attacked us on 9/11? This charge was also rejected by the Senate Intelligence Committee. Contrary to how its findings were summarized in the mainstream media, the committee’s report explicitly concluded that al Qaeda did in fact have a cooperative, if informal, relationship with Iraqi agents working under Saddam. The report of the bipartisan 9/11 commission came to the same conclusion, as did a comparably independent British investigation conducted by Lord Butler, which pointed to “meetings . . . between senior Iraqi representatives and senior al-Qaeda operatives.”



Which brings us to Joseph C. Wilson, IV and what to my mind wins the palm for the most disgraceful instance of all. The story begins with the notorious sixteen words inserted—after, be it noted, much vetting by the CIA and the State Department—into Bush’s 2003 State of the Union address:



The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa. This is the “lie” Wilson bragged of having “debunked” after being sent by the CIA to Niger in 2002 to check out the intelligence it had received to that effect.

Wilson would later angrily deny that his wife had recommended him for this mission, and would do his best to spread the impression that choosing him had been the Vice President’s idea.

But Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times , through whom Wilson first planted this impression, was eventually forced to admit that “Cheney apparently didn’t know that Wilson had been dispatched.” (By the time Kristof grudgingly issued this retraction, Wilson himself, in characteristically shameless fashion, was denying that he had ever “said the Vice President sent me or ordered me sent.”)

And as for his wife’s supposed non-role in his mission, here is what Valerie Plame Wilson wrote in a memo to her boss at the CIA:



My husband has good relations with the PM [the prime minister of Niger] and the former minister of mines . . .  both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.



More than a year after his return, with the help of Kristof, and also Walter Pincus of the Washington Post , and then through an op-ed piece in the Times under his own name, Wilson succeeded, probably beyond his wildest dreams, in setting off a political firestorm. In response, the White House, no doubt hoping to prevent his allegation about the sixteen words from becoming a proxy for the charge that (in Wilson’s latest iteration of it) “lies and disinformation [were] used to justify the invasion of Iraq,” eventually acknowledged that the President’s statement “did not rise to the level of inclusion in the State of the Union address.” As might have been expected, however, this panicky response served to make things worse rather than better.

And yet it was totally unnecessary—for the maddeningly simple reason that every single one of the sixteen words at issue was true.

That is, British intelligence had assured the CIA that Saddam Hussein had tried to buy enriched uranium from the African country of Niger.

Furthermore—and notwithstanding the endlessly repeated assertion that this assurance has now been discredited—Britain’s independent Butler commission concluded that it was “well-founded.” The relevant passage is worth quoting at length:



a. It is accepted by all parties that Iraqi officials visited Niger in 1999.

b. The British government had intelligence from several different sources indicating that this visit was for the purpose of acquiring uranium. Since uranium constitutes almost three-quarters of Niger’s exports, the intelligence was credible.

c. The evidence was not conclusive that Iraq actually purchased, as opposed to having sought, uranium, and the British government did not claim this.



As if that were not enough to settle the matter, Wilson himself, far from challenging the British report when he was “debriefed” on his return from Niger (although challenging it is what he now never stops doing), actually strengthened the CIA’s belief in its accuracy.



From the Senate Intelligence Committee report:



He [the CIA reports officer] said he judged that the most important fact in the report [by Wilson] was that Niger officials admitted that the Iraqi delegation had traveled there in 1999, and that the Niger prime minister believed the Iraqis were interested in purchasing uranium.

And again:

The report on [Wilson’s] trip to Niger . . . did not change any analysts’ assessments of the Iraq-Niger uranium deal. For most analysts, the information in the report lent more credibility to the original CIA reports on the uranium deal. This passage goes on to note that the State Department’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research—which (as we have already seen) did not believe that Saddam Hussein was trying to develop nuclear weapons—found support in Wilson’s report for its “assessment that Niger was unlikely to be willing or able to sell uranium to Iraq.”

But if so, this, as the Butler report quoted above points out, would not mean that Iraq had not tried to buy it—which was the only claim made by British intelligence and then by Bush in the famous sixteen words.

The liar here, then, was not Bush but Wilson.
anonymous
2007-10-07 20:23:37 UTC
Chi, I dare you to prove even one of the allegations you listed. ONE.



Don't you ever get tired of being asked for sources, yet you always show your intelligence and go it on your own.
anonymous
2007-10-07 20:24:12 UTC
"The Bush admin DID LIE about all of the above and only their inner circle and the CIA had proof that they were lying."



And they told you???????
anonymous
2007-10-07 20:23:06 UTC
The stubborn denial of reality.



We see it here in the responses of the mindless NeoCons here tonight.
wider scope
2007-10-07 20:21:26 UTC
Chi, it is because we hear it ALL the time over and over and over again repeatedly.



Btw, thank you for changing the false accusations up a bit.



I really appreciate it.
anonymous
2007-10-07 20:21:23 UTC
Oh, well that is real convincing. Well, only a few people knew they were lying but they were. You sound like a kid stuck with his hand in the cookie jar. LOL
gone fishin
2007-10-07 20:20:50 UTC
They were probably trying to give you the benefit of having more sense than a garden variety conspiracy theorist.
anonymous
2007-10-07 20:20:20 UTC
Where are your references and proof you lying posing lowlife elevator operator.
?
2007-10-07 20:22:05 UTC
I wonder how many of these bush supporting neocons are going to answer that "WMD's were found" and then post some link to Freerepublic.com to 'prove it'.


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