Question:
Did Bush think he would be out of office before the economy collapsed?
anonymous
2008-11-24 10:54:31 UTC
And all the blame could be placed on the Dems? It has been obvious to everyone but the Repub mouthpieces (who kept saying our economy was sound) that our economy has been going in in the toilet for a while. Even 60 Minutes did a story back in May about the house of cards/pyramid scheme about the sub prime housing market. It showed just how precarious and risky the banks were with all the hundreds of billions of dollar loans they gave after Greenspan lowered the rates to basement prices.
Maybe his advisers were just off by 4 months?
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4126094n
Seventeen answers:
anonymous
2008-11-24 11:04:01 UTC
I was thinking the same thing myself.



It's just too easy for a president to borrow money, to spend us into debt. (Yes, Republicans will say the president doesn't spend money, but remember the only president who ever sent a budget back to Congress because it was too big was a Democrat!) Presidents know that they can make the economy look better by borrowing money, but when the bill comes due it will be some other president's problem.



The same thing happened with Carter. We had a nasty wave of double-digit inflation and double-digit interest rates in the 70s and Republicans love to blame it on Jimmy Carter. But in fact the problem was in place long before he became president. President Nixon, two presidents before Carter, implemented wage and price controls to curb inflation (unsuccessfully). President Ford ran a program called 'Whip Inflation Now' which consisted mostly of mailing people buttons to wear that said "WIN" and not much else.



The bad times of the 70s were caused by two things (1) a large debt from a long, unproductive war and (2) a sudden doubling in the price of gas. Sound familiar?



In years to come, Republicans will blame Obama for all this trouble, hoping people won't remember when it started.
correrafan
2008-11-24 11:43:35 UTC
I knew it would go down the toilet as soon as Bush started 2 wars at once. Although there was plenty of need to go after Osama in Laden in Afghanistan, there was no justification to go into Iraq because they had not attacked us. Even though Saddam Hussein was one of the worst tyrants in the whole world, and needed to be displaced, it was inevitable from an economic standpoint for the economy to tank when Bush was pouring such large amounts of money down "the rat-hole called war".



Loaning or giving billions to businesses won't work unless taxpayers and middle-class families have money to spend, and the confidence that they will still have a job when the bills come due. First, Bush gave tax cuts to the rich, then inflation began to creep up slowly as middle-class families tried to maintain hard-worked-for lifestyles with credit. Then came the sub-prime lending scam to rope in unsuspecting borrowers to jump on the opportunity to buy a home before the prices went up. While all this was going on, Bush kept saying that the economy was sound, all the while he and his rich cronies were stealing from the middle-class in the form of sky-rocketing oil prices, thus causing general inflation, and pouring more money into the war in Iraq (The Surge). Then when, the middle-class began to run out of credit, they began to tighten their belts. Then, businesses began laying workers off, thus compounding the shaky base of the economy. Without consumers to buy stuff, and the sharply-increasing numbers of Americans filing for medical bankruptcy, the bottom began to crumble. Failing families are mostly invisible, but automakers, big banks, and investment houses are now crimbling because the middle-class is suffering from a decline in their purchasing power. I don't know who said, "As the middle-class goes, so goes America." But they were correct.
realst1
2008-11-24 11:11:54 UTC
The economy has been bad since the first year of Bush. Bush talked the country into a recession so he could get his tax cuts for the richest passed through Congress. He didn't like that surplus money just sitting there. The Bush junta has been underreporting the terrible economy through phoney government statistics and changes in how they reported them.



Job creation has not been equal to job loss by a huge margin, the only thing Bush could tout was the strong housing market and we see where that went. People were losing their jobs and refinancing their houses at inflated bubble prices to make it through and now are underwater and defaulting on their loans. People had to decide whether to eat or fill up the tank to get to work. Bush did nothing about anything because his cronies were making billions. This is only the tip of the iceberg because our economy has been bad for almost 8 years and now it is so bad, it can't be hidden anymore.
anonymous
2008-11-24 11:07:10 UTC
Considering the downward spiral it was in when Clinton left office and the effects that 9/11 had on the world economy, it is a wonder he kept it afloat as long as he has. Europe, Russia, Central and South America and Africa have been going down for at least a year. On top of that, people have been talking for almost 2 years about when the housing bubble would burst. The rapid rise on the world price of oil was the tipping point, driving inflation up.



If the economy was going in the toilet for awhile with everyone talking about it, why did it take so long for the Democratic controlled House and Senate to do anything? Answer: The Democrats are all talk and no solutions. They had not a real clue as to what was causing it or how to stop it. The reason for this is simple; They could not for the life of them recognize their hand in all this.



They still don't. The policies that have brought about this mess are still there. There response is to throw money at it until it goes away. Don't believe me? See where we are in 2 years.
anonymous
2008-11-24 11:11:51 UTC
I have heard that Bush was doing everything he could to delay the final collapse of the banks---I've also heard the apologies of Greenspan for making unsound decisions.

In my opinion this entire economic disaster is a result of trying to maneuver the banks and the country into a "new world order" type direction. I am pretty sure you have heard of that one before. When the final crash of the banking industry came down it was too early---and Bush had to deal with it--and the way he wanted to deal with it was to give the banks a blank check--no stipulation attached to the 700 billion bailout dollars.

Personally do I believe that it is too late to change things. I think that we are going to have to go through a total depression before we can get up and running again---we owe too much money to be able to borrow a lot, our jobs are pretty much overseas, our homes are being foreclosed because of predatory lending practices, and our jobs are going down the drain because no one got money and if they do, they won't spend it. Times will be much worse before it gets better---
Damsell With Stress
2008-11-24 11:21:52 UTC
There is plenty of blame to throw around but if for one second you don't think that the Democrats didn't have a large hand in this crisis you really need to read more.



Congress are the ones that really suck. 2003 Bush tried to get Fannie and Freddie revamped to his republican controlled party and in 2005 McCain failed doing the same thing with the Democratic Congress. Then you look at all the money Fannie gave people like Dodd and Obama, Pelosi, even to McCain and you wonder just what are they doing?



The president can only do so much, it is Congress with the real power. This Congress we have in right now is the worst of all times. They will not work together lead by devil Pelosi and her goons of Reid and Dodd. They were hoping it fall on Bush's shoulders so they can get their stool boy Obama in the White House. Pelosi would refuse to cooperate with the Rebublicans especially when it came to Bush and even when they did try to work together she couldn't keep your foul trap shut long enough to get the republican vote.
anonymous
2016-10-25 03:25:03 UTC
the human beings who "desire their u . s . a . back" voted for Bush two times and hated Obama previously he ever entered place of work. they have continued to carry on in this manner of radical and ridiculous way that what DOES issue me is those human beings ever having potential over our authorities. they're vitriolic and really indignant, frequently about made up issues that haven't any foundation honestly. Obama is a lot extra average than Clinton or Carter, yet they act like Obama is a few far left socialist, communist, Marxist, etc. Obama has bent over backwards to satisfy republicans contained in the middle and make compromises, yet they have many times rejected any attempt to discover undemanding floor with this president. it is risky for this u . s . a ..
Brandon
2008-11-24 11:09:31 UTC
Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Harry Reed, Chris Dodd, Barney Frank are all completely and mostly involved with the collapse of the economy is oblivious and just wants to believe the Drive By Liberal Media. They are under and believe Obummer can do no wrong. They are in a deep trance and I after these 4 years hopefully they will be out of it.
Emerald Dreaming
2008-11-24 10:59:25 UTC
Bush told the entire country that the economy was going to suffer with the war in Iraq before we entered there. So, since the war has been going on most of his administration... no, I don't think he was going to jump out and everyone would forget what he said so that the "blame" slid to the Democrats.
anonymous
2008-11-24 11:07:19 UTC
He sure came up with some major programs in a hurry.



Yep, right at the last minute. Did you notice the look on his face when he was photographed presiding with Congress during the bailout?
Piper R
2008-11-25 15:06:49 UTC
The MOM I am sorry this isnt an answer to this one..but the turkey and Palin I laughed till I cried..too funny.
anonymous
2008-11-24 11:02:35 UTC
Well the Community Reinvestment Act was started and upheld by the Democrats which is what started this whole mess in the first place.
TG
2008-11-24 10:58:24 UTC
Thats what Clinton did...



And are you that blind to believe the Democrats are not responsible for a lot of what is happening? Barney Frank...hello?!
Warren T
2008-11-24 11:05:54 UTC
POSSIBLE BUT WHO CAN REALLY FIX THIS MESS. IF THE DEMOCRATS DO WHAT THEY SAY THEY ARE GOING TO DO THEY WILL JUST MAKE IT WORST
wider scope
2008-11-24 11:10:11 UTC
No, that was Clinton with his bogus surplus.
whimsy
2008-11-24 10:58:36 UTC
No...



Bush NEVER thought about the economy at all - he was too busy trying to be a "War president" instead of minding domestic business...
KylieV
2008-11-24 10:58:16 UTC
Most of the blame is placed on the democrats in congress, where have you been? They control the purse strings.


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