Question:
Tea Party people: Why do you want your politics to be based off religion? does that violate the constitution?
anonymous
1970-01-01 00:00:00 UTC
Tea Party people: Why do you want your politics to be based off religion? does that violate the constitution?
27 answers:
Outlawcajun
2011-10-14 15:57:13 UTC
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people to peaceably to

assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.



Sorry but I couldn't find a word about 'separation of church and state' in the First Amendment.

If possible, find it in the above, verbatim from the Constitution, and point it out.

On the other hand, schools, collages, and universities are run by their respective states, and the federal government has NO Constitutional authority to tax a citizen of one state to give money to any other state.
anonymous
2011-10-14 15:46:06 UTC
The term Separation of Church and State appears NOWHERE in the constitution, DIPHTHONG! There IS an establishment clause that forbids the congress from passing a law either Establishing a national religion, or forbidding the practice of any.



Second, the TeA Party is about Fiscal Conservatism, and we really do not weigh in on social issues all that much, except for the fact that Fiscal conservatives are frequently conservative elsewhere in their lives, but not always.



I saw NO religious signs or anything else for that matter at any of the TEA parties I have been to. It stands for Taxed Enough Already.
NO Govt. Motors
2011-10-14 15:47:35 UTC
Actually, the Tea Party has nothing to do with religion, although most Tea Party people have strong beliefs in God...unlike the Flea Party people currently camping out around the country for weeks with taking a bath...most Flea Party people's religion is the the left wing of the Demo.party...called Communism...."take from the haves and give to the have nots"
Eyeswideopen
2011-10-14 15:49:27 UTC
The 1st amendment says " Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances. ” and the Tea Party is for smaller government, reasonable taxes and more responsibility from our elected officials. Regardless of what your favorite news source says, it has nothing to do with religion.
anonymous
2011-10-14 15:39:04 UTC
OBAMA:

Where do you move forward with that?



This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.



FALSANI:

You don’t believe that?



OBAMA:

I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell.



I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity.



That’s just not part of my religious makeup.



Part of the reason I think it’s always difficult for public figures to talk about this is that the nature of politics is that you want to have everybody like you and project the best possible traits onto you. Oftentimes that’s by being as vague as possible, or appealing to the lowest commong denominators. The more specific and detailed you are on issues as personal and fundamental as your faith, the more potentially dangerous it is.
Indescribable Gift on the Way
2011-10-14 15:42:10 UTC
Lesson 1: Imagine what it would be like to be shot at, jailed, fined, have to hide and are forced from practicing your religion by your very own Government or State Leaders Laws.

That is what separation of Church and State means.



That is also what is meant by Freedom of Religion. The Freedom to practice your Religion without persecution anywhere you are.
Kyrie
2011-10-14 15:44:45 UTC
A lot of the Tea Party start throwing Jesus into social issues and kind of blurrs the ideas when that happens. They want financial stability but when it comes to social issues, they tend to be more religious and some are uber-religious that tends to detract from their ideas.







PS Don't blame "liberal media" for how you come off. Get over it, some religious wackjobs give the Tea Party a bad name.
ByeBye Barry
2011-10-17 10:50:42 UTC
Do you know anything about the TEa Party except what Obama has told you? I didn't think so. Your question only proves that liberals are clueless.
anonymous
2011-10-14 15:47:43 UTC
The first amendment says nothing against voting your conscience. If you want to vote for Bugs Bunny or Ronald McDonald, write them in. I don't have a problem with you exercising that freedom.
anonymous
2011-10-14 16:00:18 UTC
When a Troll speaks we all listen. Nice rant troll. Got anything to support this crap.
Jayne Savage
2011-10-14 15:40:15 UTC
I am a Christian and in MY Constitution, it says freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion. But that is beside the point. We want a limited government and fiscal and personal responsibility and to actually get BACK to the Constitution.
Mr easy
2011-10-14 15:46:49 UTC
This country was founded by the faith in god. Our Money says in God we trust. Good moral people to make insane decisions. What do you think is wrong with America today.No pledge of allegiance in school and no prayer breeds the wrong message to our youth in todays society.
Cochran
2011-10-14 15:44:07 UTC
1st Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."



Where does it say separation of church and state?
anonymous
2011-10-14 15:47:40 UTC
I don't.



How do you get that out of Taxed Enough Already.



Oh I see you just want to vilify the TEA Party with inaccuracies.



I'm ashamed to see that you are a Seahawks fan.
?
2011-10-14 15:40:04 UTC
Which religion are you referring to?...I know Tea Party members who are Christians, Catholics, Atheists, Agnostics, Mormons, Pagans, Wiccans, and other things that I'm not aware of because most of them don't discuss religion at all...





I know a hell of a lot of Tea Party members (more than you do, believe me)...I have never heard ONE Tea Party member suggest basing politics on religion...Any religion
?
2011-10-14 15:38:11 UTC
Separation of church and state means that the church cannot be governing institution like it was in Europe in the middle ages. It doesn't mean that government can't have some motivation from religious principles.
SpaceCowboy
2011-10-14 15:50:59 UTC
I copied the following from: http://www.usconstitution.net/jeffwall.html



Jefferson's Wall of Separation Letter



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Thomas Jefferson was a man of deep religious conviction — his conviction was that religion was a very personal matter, one which the government had no business getting involved in. He was vilified by his political opponents for his role in the passage of the 1786 Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom and for his criticism of such biblical events as the Great Flood and the theological age of the Earth. As president, he discontinued the practice started by his predecessors George Washington and John Adams of proclaiming days of fasting and thanksgiving. He was a staunch believer in the separation of church and state.



Jefferson wrote a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802 to answer a letter from them written in October 1801. A copy of the Danbury letter is available here. The Danbury Baptists were a religious minority in Connecticut, and they complained that in their state, the religious liberties they enjoyed were not seen as immutable rights, but as privileges granted by the legislature — as "favors granted." Jefferson's reply did not address their concerns about problems with state establishment of religion — only of establishment on the national level. The letter contains the phrase "wall of separation between church and state," which led to the short-hand for the Establishment Clause that we use today: "Separation of church and state."



The letter was the subject of intense scrutiny by Jefferson, and he consulted a couple of New England politicians to assure that his words would not offend while still conveying his message: it was not the place of the Congress or the Executive to do anything that might be misconstrued as the establishment of religion.



Note: The bracketed section in the second paragraph had been blocked off for deletion in the final draft of the letter sent to the Danbury Baptists, though it was not actually deleted in Jefferson's draft of the letter. It is included here for completeness. Reflecting upon his knowledge that the letter was far from a mere personal correspondence, Jefferson deleted the block, he noted in the margin, to avoid offending members of his party in the eastern states.



This is a transcript of the final letter as stored online at the Library of Congress, and reflects Jefferson's spelling and punctuation.





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Mr. President



To messers Nehemiah Dodge, Ephraim Robbins, & Stephen S. Nelson, a committee of the Danbury Baptist association in the state of Connecticut.



Gentlemen



The affectionate sentiments of esteem and approbation which you are so good as to express towards me, on behalf of the Danbury Baptist association, give me the highest satisfaction. my duties dictate a faithful and zealous pursuit of the interests of my constituents, & in proportion as they are persuaded of my fidelity to those duties, the discharge of them becomes more and more pleasing.



Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. [Congress thus inhibited from acts respecting religion, and the Executive authorised only to execute their acts, I have refrained from prescribing even those occasional performances of devotion, practiced indeed by the Executive of another nation as the legal head of its church, but subject here, as religious exercises only to the voluntary regulations and discipline of each respective sect.] Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.



I reciprocate your kind prayers for the protection & blessing of the common father and creator of man, and tender you for yourselves & your religious association assurances of my high respect & esteem.



(signed) Thomas Jefferson

Jan.1.1802.
anonymous
2011-10-14 15:38:36 UTC
I've been to several Tea Party events and haven't heard anyone talking religion nor have I seen any signs indicating such a thing.

Sounds to me like you are simply repeating leftist talking points. Let me guess......blame Bush and Fox News lies too?
?
2011-10-14 15:37:02 UTC
The 3 main values of the Tea Party is having a limited government, cut spending, and return our traditions.



Why are you talking about religion? Darn that liberal media...
Weise Ente
2011-10-14 15:41:08 UTC
Most Tea Partiers try to ignore the extremely religious aspect of the movement. It distracts from their supposed small government message.
anonymous
2011-10-14 15:38:13 UTC
Smaller government and less taxes has nothing to do with religion
?
2011-10-14 15:37:49 UTC
The main values of the Tea Party have to do with financial issues- nothing to do with religion.
wtinc
2011-10-14 15:37:11 UTC
Please read the constitution it say the government may not force people to follow one religion. that does not mean that a person who serves can not be religious.
u_bin_called
2011-10-14 15:39:04 UTC
um......besides the fact that you can't see beyond your own bigotry.....allowing people to let their beliefs guide their politics is exactly what the First Amendment PROTECTS...
anonymous
2011-10-14 15:39:15 UTC
LESS OVER-POWERFUL GOVERNMENT AND LESS WASTEFUL SPENDING!



GET

THAT

THROUGH

YOUR

THICK

SKULL!



NO ONE IS TALKING ABOUT RELIGION IN THE NORMAL TEA PARTY IDEOLOGY!
anonymous
2011-10-14 15:37:07 UTC
Lower taxes and smaller government is somehow tied to the church????
?
2011-10-14 15:37:46 UTC
Have you ever read the Constitution, or are you just typing the standard liberal talking points?


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