Question:
Was it intentional that Obamacare would cause greater increases in healthcare premiums in order to cause?
yamnnjr
2013-09-11 20:41:05 UTC
In order to cause the problems with healthcare over all that would manipulate us voters into demanding a universal healthcare system run by government like Obama wanted in the first place?

I mean if you look at how Obama's doing this, he's only implementing the parts that will hit the common citizen the hardest. He took it upon himself to overstep the rule of law and decided to delay implementation of the business mandate until 2015, just after the 2014 Congressional elections, and this is one of the things he has done with Obamacare that is going to cause people to have to pay way more for healthcare than they would have if Obamacare never happened, especially those dependent upon their employer's healthcare now that many simply can't afford it and must drop it altogether.

And now, even those employers that still provide healthcare, people everywhere are taking huge pay-cuts because of Obamacare.

They were getting healthcare already, but then Obamacare came in, and now people are taking a huge pay-cut to pay for the same care and a lot actually are getting reduced services for the higher cost, thanks directly to Obamacare.

Then, for every pre-existing condition that is now getting healthcare, there is another who is suddenly not getting the care they were getting regularly before Obamacare came in and took over. And then when they call to find out what's going on, nobody can seem to explain what's going on. Indeed, people who are suffering from chronic conditions are actually having to turn to third-party humanitarian help just to figure out how they can get treatment again not that Obamacare has, for some unexplainable reason, banned them from getting care for their condition. Again, I remember one woman had no idea what to do until Fox News, yeah, Fox News came in and told her who to get in touch with.

Is this because of how superior Obamacare is? Is this because of Obamacare being a rousing success that everything conservatives said would happen is actually coming true?

Do you liberals still blindly believe what you're told about Obamacare by all the "neutrally" biased leftist-owned news media?
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Jerry J
2013-09-11 21:41:46 UTC
Obviously you're not looking for an answer to your question--you're just engaged in passive-aggressively trying to push your political views and personal opinions on others; while stating your opinions as if they are facts. Bluntly your ethics are questionable.



But I'll take on your ugly attempt to indoctrinate others with your views.

Do you know the difference between 'opinon' and 'fact'? A FACT is something that one can undeniably prove as true. An opinion is a persons beliefs and views. Your writing states many opinions you hold as if they were facts. To respond, let's start with a few FACTS:

- Every nation in the world that isn't financially underprivileged provides its citizens with health care. Those countries that don't all have a desire to do so because every nation views the security of health care as important for its citizens.

- Every president since Kennedy has at one time or another given lip-service to providing health care for Americans. Obama is merely the first president to actually DO what everybody else has talked about.

- "Obamacare" is actually a Republican program. It was devised by Republicans. It was first tried by Republicans. It was highly promoted by Republicans--until a Democratic president got his hands on it and presented it to the American people. Then suddenly Republicans did a 180 and became opposed to their own baby. "Obamacare" is actually "Romneycare" from the State of Massachusetts. However, it got badly watered down and messed up from the time Obama introduced it until it was passed as law, because Congressional Republicans couldn't stand the idea of supporting such a major program being introduced by Democrats. So they did--and are still doing--everything possible to try and destroy it. Unfortunately they have had significant success because the final bill that got passed lacked a lot of the good that was in the original bill presented to Congress.

- The United States currently spends about $8233 per person on health care annually. The second-highest nation is Norway which spends only $5388 per person--over 1/3 less! Canada spends almost exactly HALF what the US does on each person.

- Over half a million Americans declare bankruptcy every year because they can't pay their health care bills. This never happens in any country with government-provided health care.

- Over 22,000 Americans die every year because they can't afford to get the health care services they need. This never happens in any country with government-provided health care.

- It is common for Americans to be turned away from hospitals because either they don't have health coverage, or the coverage they have isn't good enough for the services they need. This even happens with emergency patients. This never happens in any country with government-provided health care.

- Despite the dire warnings given by right-wing fanatics, economists claim that overall Obamacare will LOWER health care costs--and that makes sense. Obamacare is simply taking America in the same direction that other countries all went years ago--and their costs are a lot lower!

- NOBODY has taken a pay cut due to Obamacare. Nobody with a pre-existing condition has lost their coverage due to Obamacare. These are impossible lies since Obamacare hasn't even been implemented yet!



In my opinion as a Centrist Independent: Obamacare should be repealed--but not until the government is ready to pass something else that is better. Until then, a lousy health care bill is better for the nation, for the people, and for businesses than nothing.
Sarah
2013-09-11 20:46:53 UTC
Actually, the results are out in most states, and show that Americans will spend LESS money, not more, on insurance premiums under the AHA. Currently, the national average for a single adult male is $380 per month. The national average under Obamacare BEFORE tax deductions will be $217 per month, and will fall under $150 per month for most Americans in the middle class.....and those who qualify can get even deeper discounts or expanded Medicaid if their income will not cover medical insurance costs.
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2013-09-12 18:28:17 UTC
It's very simple. Insurance companies knew in 4 years (after 2010 passage of the ACA) they had to cover all adults with pre-existing conditions, could not refuse to insure anyone, could not cap their care or reject coverage for any reason, so they raised insurance premiums to make sure they dont lose too much profit by paying out claims and insuring everyone. The naturally rising rates are also attributable to higher hospital charges which make up their losses for uninsured patients who dont pay bills.
McNamara
2013-09-11 20:45:42 UTC
Of course it was. Obama openly advocated a single payer system before switching to the ostensibly less threatening "Affordable Care Act". Harry Reid even admitted a month ago that Obamacare is a stepping stone toward single payer.
2013-09-11 20:43:31 UTC
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